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Are each days "themes/games/whatever you want to call them" 1-shot? For example is there a possibility of getting pick your poison again? I'm not sure which poison I want yet because the answer depends on GreY's answer lol. | ||
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Dude, I know. I am scum and you caught me. You should lynch me. | ||
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On February 13 2013 09:28 Dandel Ion wrote: LETS FIND OUT IF YOU ARE SCUM REAL QUICK ARE YOU GOING TO LURK AND PRETEND ITS "RL ISSUES" AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF? A YES/NO ANSWER IS SUFFICIENT Yes. I have real life issues and I am leaving now never to reappear. Lynch me for it. | ||
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On February 13 2013 12:13 gonzaw wrote: You know, all the PYP things relate to lynching, so we know there' a lynch next cycle. Thus we know only these games can take place tomorrow: Witchcraft Election Chrono trigger Looney thing Whose line Nice to know. I want Whose Line! I want to perform a Hoedown. So the hilarious thing is as much as I loved WLIIA mafia, I'm glad I died when I did because I actually didn't want to do the hoedown lol. | ||
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On February 13 2013 12:40 Blazinghand wrote: Look, think about your thought process as a townie when you evaluated the three options. You probably rejected the Secret Ballot out of hand barring some weird circumstances because it takes information away from town, then you thought about Mayoral and Instant Majority. Thinking about the strengths and drawbacks of both, you'd note that Mayoral elections produce a different kind of discussion than lynch votes (not necessarily better or worse) and the actual vote itself tends to be about who says they'll use the lynch on whom and who you have a town-read on. Instant Majority sounds dangerous but actually buts the scum under a lot of pressure assuming nobody gets dumb and jumps the gun on the hammer. But what you don't think about, and I'm certain nobody town aligned thinks about as a main reason not to use mayoral, is the possibility of making a scum player mayor. It's a risk of mayoral, but it's not the reason you wouldn't run it-- after all, if what the mayor does is pick who gets lynched, picking a scum player to be mayor isn't a huge risk. We're not giving powers to the scumteam, and in fact, having a scum under that spotlight could be very helpful to town. From a townie perspective, which any townie will have, you probably want instant majority because it's simple and lets you lynch someone. You want your vote to do something and you want to put pressure on the scum. You don't reject mayoral because a scum might get elected-- this might actually be the best outcome short of a townie get elected and lynching scum. You reject mayoral because instant majority is better and gives you more power to hunt scum. Oats came into this giving reasoning that comes from a mindset not of townie scumhunting, but of scum shirking responsibility and blending in, and thinking fearfully. I thought this was pretty obvious, guys Wow, you really thought about this bh. But I don't agree with your vote because being honest I didn't think of a lot of what you said about mayoral election. For example, I thought that a mayoral election would be bad if we elected scum, but you just pointed out why that could be really good. Oats just vocalized some of those thoughts and you attacked him for it. That doesn't make him scum, just someone who didn't think about it in the same way you did. | ||
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On February 13 2013 13:00 Oatsmaster wrote: I am basing them/it off his posting. So does me giving BH a town read alignment indicative? What about his posting, though? Why is it townie? | ||
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On February 14 2013 06:38 Dandel Ion wrote: zzz, I called gonzo out for the exact same stuff 6 hours ago already. DO YOU THINK HE HAS REAL LIFE ISSUES!? | ||
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On February 14 2013 06:41 Dandel Ion wrote: OH JUST LIKE YOU OR DO YOU LURK BY CHOICE THIS GAME? i'm done with all caps, lol. nah, I didn't lurk by choice. I was away from the computer all day today, so deal with it. | ||
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On February 14 2013 06:45 austinmcc wrote: (Read that as "not," I had to stretch for it) Seriously, what's your deal man? Is this some sort of post restriction or something? | ||
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On February 14 2013 06:57 Dandel Ion wrote: He's actually just practicing for WLIIA. Well I don't know of any game like that in WLIIA. You will have to enlighten me on something though. Zealously you call many people scum all game. + Show Spoiler + On February 13 2013 09:15 Dandel Ion wrote: OH YEAH LET ME ROLL ONE. THE MAGIC NUMBER IS 10! REJOICE! ##VOTE CROSSFIRE99 On February 13 2013 10:22 Dandel Ion wrote: This just in, randombum is scum. Because he didn't say hi. On February 13 2013 12:34 Dandel Ion wrote: This man seems to speak the truth. ##Unvote ##Vote: Oatsmaster On February 13 2013 21:13 Dandel Ion wrote: Also also, marv is scum. On February 13 2013 23:54 Dandel Ion wrote: I would also totally like to lynch gonzaw. 4 posts in the game so far and they were all useless go-figure stuff, and no intention to figure anything out shown anywhere. And you provided little reasoning for these votes (and say you aren't trolling + Show Spoiler + On February 13 2013 21:11 Dandel Ion wrote: Also I'm not trolling. | ||
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On February 14 2013 07:43 Dandel Ion wrote: One of us played in WLIIA, one of us didn't. One of us understands the term "joke", one of us doesn't. I act like this, not only because I can. But mostly. There is a sense though. Trolling, I am not. All will be unraveled in due time. Zealously, I have written in the postgame of MTG my plan, already. Reading them, you seemingly did not. That plan there, was not a joke. Oh I forgot about this post. + Show Spoiler + On February 07 2013 04:35 Dandel Ion wrote: I think hydras work pretty well in this mode. More players, but not too many actual decks, lol. Anyways I personally detirmined this: The more effort i put into games, the less fun I have. I put the most effort into this game than, like, ever before (I blame acro for making me feel bad whenever i was slacking off). Incidentially, it was also the least fun in many ways. Even though I was really hyped and excited about the setup. So henceforth, I shall aim to not put any effort whatsoever into my games. Maybe mafia will get fun again then. Worth a try. I hope it works for you and you have fun because we play mafia to have fun. I just ask that you put in a teensy bit more work and at least give a reason if you think someone is scum. I see you did that for gonzaw, so hopefully that shouldn't be too much work for you. I really do hope you have fun this game. | ||
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On February 14 2013 08:11 Dandel Ion wrote: I decline. When I say no effort, I mean no effort. What I wrote on gonzaw, it was already too much, it seems. I must buckle down, and do less. Thanks for reminding me. I hope whatever you decide to do you have fun doing it, but just remember that your play impacts how fun the game is for other people. That is definitely something you should know from mtg. I ask that you at least think about that, and play with that in mind however you decide to play (hopefully with a teensy bit of effort). | ||
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On February 14 2013 06:40 Blazinghand wrote: at this moment yes. if oats was scummier i'd have my vote on him. there's no possible town reason gonzaw would act like he's acting On February 14 2013 09:06 Blazinghand wrote: Gonzaw not being very direct. But this most recent posting is town gonzaw, as opposed to scum gonzaw. I'm amenable to an oats lynch instead of a gonzaw lynch. On February 14 2013 09:57 Blazinghand wrote: actually yes nope and nope gonzaw's listy posting is more like town. he's still the best lynch cause he entered this game playing like scum gonzaw and changed to town gonzaw after i called him out so like that's pretty suspicious Uh...which is it? Is he scum or town? Or should I just wait another hour and he'll be back to being town. | ||
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I'm trying to understand your thought process. You begin with the same premise, gonzaw's most recent posting is townie, but then come to 2 different conclusions (lynch oats and lynch gonzaw) in the span of an hour. I want to know why you changed your mind. | ||
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1. Hassybaby 2. Oatsmaster 3. Dandel Ion 4. iamperfection 5. kitaman27 6. Kierathi 7. Kurumi 8. Marvellosity 9. Sylencia 10. Crossfire99 11. Gonzaw 12. Stutters695 13. Blazinghand 14. austinmcc 15. randombum 16. jcarlsoniv 17. Mr. Cheesecake | ||
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On February 14 2013 10:43 iamperfection wrote: Crossfire gets so many townie points for that. Is it weird that I was working on the filters before GreY even posted? I don't know even know why I decided to do it now, but I did. | ||
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##Vote: iamperfection I could be convinced to switch to Mr. CC because I am really worried about his absence. He showed up in the very beginning of the game and put down a joke vote on me and the secret ballot and just disappeared. I agree with stutters who brought this concern up. I also don't like how dandel just said don't worry about it, he's just absent. Well he's been absent all of day 1 and it's concerning me. | ||
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Guys we really need to start narrowing this down because it is majority lynch. I don't wanna no lynch day 1 cause that's terrible and gives us nothing. | ||
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On February 15 2013 06:52 iamperfection wrote: We got two hours that's a life time Uh maybe if everyone was here, but there's what 5 or six people here now out of 17 and many people have been lurking a lot and haven't shown up and everyone's votes are all over the place. I don't like it. We need time to consolidate and make sure we make a correct decision. Last minute shenanigans rarely if ever work out well (except for Mario lolololol) | ||
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On February 15 2013 06:53 iamperfection wrote: And maybe you should be asking me questions to figure out my alignment cross. Just a thought Maybe I should try. Are you scum? Answer honestly. + Show Spoiler + But seriously, though, Austin's case does show how you have been acting scummy this game and is why I'm voting for you. | ||
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On February 15 2013 07:00 iamperfection wrote: Maybe you should I don't know go look for yourself? Myabe I have, and I don't know, agree with austin's case after looking at your filter. | ||
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On February 15 2013 07:28 Keirathi wrote: Unofficial Vote Count: Sylencia: kitaman27, Kurumi Crossfire99: Mr. Cheesecake Mr. Cheesecake: Stutters Oatsmaster: Keirathi kitaman27: Sylencia randombum: gonzaw Stutters: iamperfection, Dandel Ion Hassybaby: marvellosity, Oatsmaster, randombum iamperfection: austinmcc, Crossfire, iamperfection We need 9 votes to lynch someone. I think we need to start consolidating. A man after my own consolidatory (made that word up lol) heart. Do you still think oats is scum? | ||
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On February 15 2013 08:48 Dandel Ion wrote: So we're 4-4-3-2 right now. You guys suck at consolidating. Who is who? It's 9 to consolidate. If we're heading for a no lynch I might switch to ensure a no lynch doesn't happen. a no lynch is worse than a mislynch. | ||
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On February 15 2013 09:08 austinmcc wrote: Wait, I'm sorry. Did we have someone create a power that kills the first voter, and then not see fit to note what was going to happen here? Brilliant point. His role creator has a lot to explain why he didn't stop this. Well I really gtg so bye. | ||
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On February 13 2013 09:32 Blazinghand wrote: I've already signaled my role-reciever that I'm his role-creator, if he's smart enough to pick up on it. If he's not, well, that's pretty typical of him. But it's okay. Second, blazing created the most wondrous of passive abilities. It makes it so that all information abilities (dt checks, watches, tracks, etc.) come back in the worst way possible. I'm always mafia, I'm always seen visiting the people who die each night, etc. Basically, blazing is evil for having created my role. As for why I didn't immediately claim this. I didn't fully understand this right away until GreY clarified it. Once, GreY clarified I didn't want to come in after I already entered the thread and say, "oh by the way, I'm the ultimate miller." I thought that would be a bad idea and not lead to useful discussion. I also figured that blazing could vouch for me if I ever got checked, which leads me to why I am claiming now. With him dead, I felt it was best to come clean now and reveal this to help town. If you have any questions, I will do my best to answer them. I don't want to reveal my role or ability(ies) because I don't want scum to know what I'm capable of. | ||
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On February 16 2013 06:38 austinmcc wrote: It's odd...but funtrolly enough to be BH. It's kind of something that will either be confirmed because everyone sees you, or blowed up when they don't. So it makes no sense to fakeclaim that, and it's not like covering your scummy self by claiming to be a self-aware miller because you say you're responsible for EVERYTHING. So for now, it's good to know in case of any investigative powers, but it's not alignment-determinative. Yeah, I figured that it should post it now, so people would have a chance to change night actions if they wanted to. Also, I'm not sure how trackers work, so I can't promise that it'll see me visit every dead person because GreY didn't elaborate too much on every scenario. I also don't know how much I'm allowed to reveal from host pms lol and i don't wanna get modkilled again like in wliia, but I do know that whatever result someone could possibly get, it will be the worst result. | ||
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On February 16 2013 07:08 austinmcc wrote: This game has gotten delightfully fun/confusing as far as roles go. Huzzah. Gonzaw, I don't need that part of the manual, I don't think. I've been observing the data from my tests, and the data is all coming in lower than I think it should. I thought maybe the manual could help me figure out why my I'm not seeing the numbers that I thought I might. DI, I have no idea what that means really, but okay! Feel free to answer this right before the deadline if you don't want to give out reads now (same goes for marv who i just asked as well), but I have to ask this now while I'm still around. Do you still think iamp is scum? | ||
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On February 17 2013 10:27 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Dandel confirmed town yet? I'm leaning town, but I don't know. He's very active, but hasn't played like I've seen him play before because of reasons we discuss in thread. I honestly don't know what to make of him. Also don't read my next post. I don't want to color your thoughts by what I post. I want you to come at the thread organically and see what you find because we need all the help we can get. | ||
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That was a depressing day post. 4 townies dead...this sucks. We're in a terrible spot now. We definitely need to lynch scum. I went back and looked at who died and what they said. Austin and Keirathi both thought that gonzaw was scum (austin had him at his 3rd read and keirathi had him as his top read). Because of them I looked at gonzaw closely and what I found basically could be summed up by austin's quote: Who else might be scum? Gonzaw could be. This is much more like his recent scum game than his town games, not just because he's not spammy but because he's poking his head up when being talked to, not adding much in the way of new thoughts to the thread (besides a read on keirathi), and then disappearing again. I do not like this. He also made my role, which contains some hidden information that I am not given access to. I asked for his read on me because I figured if he was strongly townie on me, he might tell me that info. But he didn't, which is confusing me right now. In light of the rest of his play, I'm currently leaning scum on him. Gonzaw talks a lot but like austin said he isn't contributing like he normally does as town. I would be willing to lynch gonzaw today. I would also be willing to lynch sylencia today. Looking at kurumi's posting, his top scum read was sylencia. He specifically calls him out in these 3 posts which make a lot of sense. On February 14 2013 21:53 Kurumi wrote: I have NO reason to believe you're town. You said that you are "innocent". That's nothing. You are actively lurking, your defence is crap. I don't understand what's overwhelming with this game and I asked you that and you went straight onto defensive >_> On February 15 2013 07:03 Kurumi wrote: I'm keeping my vote on Sylencia - he is thinking I will risk my life to confirm him as "town", never answered why he felt overwhelemed, actively lurked and still refuses to play. Also, he is the creator of my role and tried to convince me into a situation where I could die >_> On February 15 2013 08:43 Kurumi wrote: ONE MINUTE What the heck.. Sylencia also was "outraged" at kita for killing kurumi. + Show Spoiler + On February 16 2013 13:57 Sylencia wrote: You were given information about your choices, and the consequences of each one. Given the nature of the game - it's likely that Kurumi would've breadcrumbed something during Day 1 and yet you somehow didn't read the clear line that says "I shall not kill"? That's not even a cryptic clue - it's as clear as day. | ||
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On February 17 2013 10:11 Dandel Ion wrote: Read the 40 pages. Oh I guess quick yes/no: did you make my role? Do you want me to answer this question as well? | ||
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On February 17 2013 10:53 Dandel Ion wrote: I do not care about "no"s at all, I want somebody to say a "yes". So there is a chance I want you to. Unfortunately, I cannot give you what you ask. | ||
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On February 17 2013 11:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: ##Elect: Dandel Ion Especially after being gone like forever. | ||
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On February 17 2013 12:21 Sylencia wrote: Pretty sure kita is still prime lynch here, with his deflection onto me I can only assume I'm seeing something which everyone else is missing. Kurumi died last night due to the wager. If Kurumi was scum, he would've chosen me and killed me knowing I'd pick share. Reason? I told him to so that I could tell him which side I was on. That would mean that Kurumi would get a free kill during the night with little risk of being revealed. If Kurumi was town, he still could have picked me there and if he passes there, and I was scum, I would pick either Kill or Pass. If I pick pass, Kurumi would pick up that something was off since I said I'd share. If I picked kill, the same thing that happened to Kita would happen. I would be exposed as the one who killed Kurumi. What actually happened during the night was that he decided to pick Kita as his target and he passed. If Kita is scum - he knows that Kurumi isn't scum and so he could get a free kill, best case where Kurumi wishes to share which side he is on. That gives him high motivation to kill. If Kita is town - he doesn't know if Kuru is town or scum. In this case, the best option would be to pass on both suspicions. As I said above, if Kurumi was scum, he wouldn't have done the whole 'I don't trust you' speech to me, and selected me because he knew I was going to share. This makes it a lot less likely he was scum. Thus given that there was a high chance he was town, town doesn't pick someone to select Kill on unless he had a read on them. This was also unlikely as he never made any mention of it whatsoever in any of the posts. If he had suspected Kita of being scum, why was he voting fo rthe same person as the suspect? It doesn't add up. Thus, if Kita was town, the correct move would've been to pass or share, with pass being the safer option in the case Kuru WAS scum because he'd be exposed as scum pretty much instantly. Why are you lying about the role you created? That's not how it works. - If both players select the same option, nothing happens. - If one player picks "Share Information" and the other picks "Pass", the player picking "Pass" gets privately informed of the other player's alignment. - If one player picks "Share Information" and the other picks "Kill Opponent", the player picking "Kill Opponent" will kill the other player, but the kill announcement will reveal the killer. - If one player picks "Pass" and the other picks "Kill Opponent", the player picking "Kill Opponent" will kill the other player, but there will be no reveal regarding the killer. | ||
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On February 18 2013 05:30 Vivax wrote: Crossfire, are you town? Yeah, why? | ||
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On February 18 2013 05:33 Dandel Ion wrote: How about you vote gonzaw for starters. Is there a rush to vote now? I thought the point of instant majority lynch was to discuss everything to death and then lynch someone. I'm here until the deadline (I'll be doing other stuff mind you, but I'll be keeping an eye on the thread), so I'm not going anywhere. | ||
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I'm going to have to ditto dandel on this one... | ||
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On February 18 2013 05:43 Dandel Ion wrote: Just treat is as a normal deadline. Since you're never here I worry you'll vanish again. Well, I'll be here and I'll keep posting every so often to show you I'm here. | ||
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On February 18 2013 07:09 Vivax wrote: We have to figure out how scum decides to handle the roles, if we identify the role creators and see people/scum using their abilities against people with powerful roles they know, then they might be scum. For example, the BH kill speaks for marv scum as well cause scum might have known how strong the role was. Oats role that jcarl made killed BH day 1... | ||
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On February 18 2013 07:13 Dandel Ion wrote: You do realize he's just trolling right? I mean, shit son, you just did the same thing last game. Wow, I'm dumb... | ||
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What was iamperfection's role and alignment? I bought Kita's logic before the lynch, but looking at it in hindsight, it doesn't hold up especially with sylencia flipping green and iamperfection flipping almost 100% green (unless gonzaw went for a ridiculous bus lol). Because of that Kita should also be lynched. That means there's 1 scum in stutters/jcarl/mr. cc. Mr. CC seems to be the obvious choice because he hasn't done anything this game, but i'm not 100% sold on him yet. | ||
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On February 19 2013 04:19 Dandel Ion wrote: We double lynch gonzaw and kita tomorrow. That is not even up for debate Fine as long as vivax dies the next day. | ||
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On February 19 2013 05:10 Dandel Ion wrote: Sure. It's tough having so many scums to lynch. Even doublelynch not enough. True that. | ||
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On February 19 2013 05:58 Dandel Ion wrote: Dis be boring. Somebody talk to me about... horses. + Show Spoiler [horses] + | ||
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Anyway gg all. I had fun. | ||
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On February 20 2013 03:21 Dandel Ion wrote: Oh I know. I just figured I might as well try, since there wasn't really any other way to win anymore :/ I knew there was a 90% chance of getting modkilled, but you gotta go for the money. €: Not my fault nobody got my hints when I actually tried to be subtle :/ True, but I think a role like you had has to be strictly moderated and maybe no hints whatsoever, otherwise you could just do what you attempted to do and then singlehandedly win the game for whatever alignment you were which would be ridiculously imbalanced lol | ||
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On February 20 2013 03:28 Dandel Ion wrote: btw I dunno how this went from 20 - 5, to 13 - 4, but that sure didn't help. Add to that that town only had bad players. No need to insult keir and austin. Why'd you think we shot them N1 lol? | ||
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On February 20 2013 03:34 Vivax wrote: Not me, your reactions in the chat to my questions made me think you were pretty scummy lol. But couldn't tell you you're scum in your face, it gives you reason to act indignant and stop talking. Let's put it this way we didn't try too hard day 3 cause we were pretty sure we won lol | ||
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OK. Thanks for hosting btw. It was a lot of fun. | ||
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On February 20 2013 05:13 GreYMisT wrote: Never trust GreYMisT. Also I was a little confused that day. Also big thanks to Hopeless1der. He helped a lot especially on night 1 when he resolved the actions almost by himself (thanks to iGrok for coming in and helping him organize things). He earns my seal of approval as a cohost. Did Hopeless write all the pms for N1? They look really good and I like the flavor especially random's and mr. cc's. | ||
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On February 25 2013 15:44 Blazinghand wrote: so how cool was crossfire's role? pretty cool right It was cool except for the part where I was perpetually framed and incriminated, though it would have been a handy excuse if I was ever tracked to one of the kills...I would have been more pissed off about that had I been town lol | ||
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