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On February 16 2013 05:51 iGrok wrote: Remember to pm Hopeless with everything. If I get it and he doesn't, it doesn't count. Nice try, iGrok. | ||
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On February 16 2013 06:24 Dandel Ion wrote: Try at what, lol? Infiltrating the game and...being evil? I dunno. | ||
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On February 16 2013 06:26 Dandel Ion wrote: He's supposed to do that though. See the nightpost. tl;dr oops | ||
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It's kind of something that will either be confirmed because everyone sees you, or blowed up when they don't. So it makes no sense to fakeclaim that, and it's not like covering your scummy self by claiming to be a self-aware miller because you say you're responsible for EVERYTHING. So for now, it's good to know in case of any investigative powers, but it's not alignment-determinative. | ||
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After I'm done there I could tango another day, perhaps. | ||
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I don't think i'm the best-fit line for your graph, then. | ||
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To Gonzaw, I would have thought you'd know my manual. Perhaps it's lost and can't be recovered, I dunno. | ||
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All of a sudden was getting the message that you needed me-you-me-you-me-you and it would be like dancing steps and do something. Perhaps that was incorrect. | ||
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Gonzaw, I don't need that part of the manual, I don't think. I've been observing the data from my tests, and the data is all coming in lower than I think it should. I thought maybe the manual could help me figure out why my I'm not seeing the numbers that I thought I might. DI, I have no idea what that means really, but okay! | ||
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I'm doing my best to resist my normal play this game and so I'm putting aside 3P for now. We have 4 scum in this game and maybe some 3P. Topping my scumreads are kitaman and iamperfection. Here's the dealio. I thought iamperfection was scummy D1. Is he contributing much to the thread? No, certainly not as much as I would expect from someone with his number of posts. Why not? Well, lots of one-liners, lots of questions that he doesn't follow up on. Scummy. Have I seen this before? Yes. From scum iamp in GSL 2. Does that mean he's 100% scum this game? No. That's stupid. But meta? No. We should shutup about meta, where "meta" = he is more in-your-face as x than y. That's not a particularly difficult thing to fake, at least for a little bit. He has had opportunities to push discussion forward this game, and instead has taken the opportunity to shut it down. He has asked questions, but not followed up in a way that makes it look like he cares about the answers. Instead of trying to figure out what kurumi was saying at times, he just shat on kurumi's posts and people who post cryptically. Those things are scummy. People who do scummy things are probably scum. Ta da. kitaman is different. It's less about what he's done and more about what he's NOT done. Look at his start to this game. "I am kitaman the mighty, the towniest townie ever. I will drive discussion, I will push the game FORWARD (stop talking about instant lynch, it's over, let's move on)." Since then...nada. I expect more from kita, and the very fact that he STARTED the game so townie shows that he can play a friggin townie game. But his followup shows that he wanted to START townie, to look townie, and tells me that he's not. Specific things that I'm picking up on are his pushes/reads D1. On February 14 2013 21:20 kitaman27 wrote: The thing about stutters is that he even acknowledges the harm of a lurker, yet 36 hours into the game has yet to make a real post -_- I'll try to check in during lunch to make my decision for today's lunch. Wish more people would actually start posting so we would have something to actually go by. Stutters is a lurker. This post comes 12 hours after kia's last post. 13 hours after kita's last substantive post, where he chides town about pooping up thread and asks some questions. But kita's return is full of nothing. He notes that stutters is a lurker. YES! Good job team! We all know that, it's been pointed out. For someone who doesn't want one-liners and a clogged thread, he's returning to quote a post more than 11 hours old and do nothing with it. That is scummy to me. He has no new info, no followup to his questions, he just pokes at a lurker. And then? On February 15 2013 03:00 kitaman27 wrote: Right now, my gut read tells me that Sylencia is a newbie lurker. There really isn't much to go by with him, but so far Sylencia has only responded to people who have placed a vote on him, indicating that his prime concern is survival. He hasn't made any posts that show he cares about town or hasn't come up with any sort of plan that could benefit us. Even his comment about the PYP is a one liner that doesn't show very strong resolve. He also shows a lack of confidence or aggressiveness, which is generally a mafia trait. Even if he is overwhelmed by the setup, there are still plenty of player interactions to comment on. When I asked him if he had any suspicions, he said no and promised to catch up, but never did so. If this was his first game, maybe I'd understand, but looking through his old games, he has like 4-5 under his belt. By now he should be able to know what kind of things to look for and comment without being prompted. For now, I'll keep my vote on Sylencia. Unfortunately, I have to head out yet. Hopefully by the time I get home I'll have time to look at the rest of the candidates. We're now MUCH further into the game. Kita returns with a read (good). Kita's read is on sylencia (eh). It's a substantive post, but it's so restricted. It talks ONLY about why he thinks this one lurker, who his vote was already on, is scummy. He admits "there really isn't much to go by with him." But kita has spun that not very much info into his only decent post in a while. He still hasn't followed up questions, looked elsewhere, commented on anything else. At this point, kita, who was policing the thread so hard early and being a great townie, is not interacting with thread. He went from participating, getting a feel for the thread and guiding it forward, to chiming in with thoughts on sylencia and commenting on nothing else. But yet, he's kind of...missing stuff about the guy he's focused on. I saw that, and asked him: On February 15 2013 08:45 kitaman27 wrote: I didn't really come to any conclusions from it, other than the fact that sylencia found it important to respond to a player that was voting for him. Did you get something out of the exchange? On February 15 2013 08:53 kitaman27 wrote: I only noticed the Barrack Obama claim. I didn't catch kurumi's later post about the alignment confirming, though I'm still not quite sure I understand what he's saying. Swapping to oats as he is my secondary preference and I want a lynch this cycle. Effectively, in sylencia's small filter, Kita missed all of this: On February 14 2013 15:01 Sylencia wrote: Kurumi, since you're voting for me right now, can I ask you to let me perhaps share with you the fact I'm innocent tonight? On February 15 2013 00:00 Sylencia wrote: But you realise you have nothing to lose by passing through the night. If I wanted to kill you, it'd be out there in the open wouldn't it? On February 15 2013 00:01 Sylencia wrote: well actually, I take that back I'd do it the more traditional way but still, it's a gamble I think you should take. Not buying it. kita either missed that or didn't really read through sylencia. If he MISSED it, when I brought it up, I would expect him to have comments. Substantive comments. This is a THING that sylencia has done, right now, he's "that lurky dude who might be scum and has something to do with kurumi." That is "sylencia" in the dictionary. But kita "didn't really come to any conclusions from it." When I brought it up, he says he missed it and doesn't follow up. That tells me this read is fake. It tells me we have scumkita, because he didn't really read over sylencia or doesn't really care about sylencia's posts. He's a good player. He's a "vet" afaik. He started out SO townie. But look at the follow-up. There isn't any. He's not interacting with thread. His only substantive post/case is on a lurker without much to go on, yet he misses the defining thing that lurker has done. If he's busy/at work, not a problem. But he HAS some posts. They just stopped doing anything. The well of townieness ran dry, and now he's coasting and doing nothing, which absolutely does not match up with active, thread police kita at the start. Look at how well he's ducked ANY talk about himself. I'm guessing most people have him as town because of his early posts, but then he hasn't been around actively, so they're not updating the read. But the not being around ITSELF is important here given his early play, and given his more recent posts. kita so scummy. Plox to lynch or shoot or something? Who else might be scum? Gonzaw could be. This is much more like his recent scum game than his town games, not just because he's not spammy but because he's poking his head up when being talked to, not adding much in the way of new thoughts to the thread (besides a read on keirathi), and then disappearing again. I do not like this. He also made my role, which contains some hidden information that I am not given access to. I asked for his read on me because I figured if he was strongly townie on me, he might tell me that info. But he didn't, which is confusing me right now. In light of the rest of his play, I'm currently leaning scum on him. Those would be my main reads for the moment, I guess. | ||
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Mildly townie on stutters, given his response to my questioning yesterday. Need to see more, because that post could have been crafted relatively easily, given the amount of time between question/answer, and how iamperfection's filter can really only leave you with one impression at that point - not a lot said, one-liners, questions, etc. worried about randombum. He's been on the periphery of things. I don't get strong feelings from him any way, and 30 minutes after reading his filter, I realize I dont' remember much about it. Randombum in PU was interactive, doing stuff, and there were things I remember (even if I remember dumb stuff like him calling out Palmar for calling him a bitch, the filter was MEMORABLE). I don't like that a picture of his posts/filter doesn't stick with me after I read it. townie on kurumi. Mainly because of that single post where he notes the timing of sylencia's reading a couple pages, digesting cases, and picking a favorite. I get less of a read from sylencia making those posts because maybe he's just lazy/not actually reading as hard as we'd want him to/whatever, so I'm not 100% convinced sylencia is just flat-out lying. But the fact that kurumi picked up on that is a BIG townie point for him in my mind. I'm not experienced with scum yet, but post timings isn't something I'd look for to attack people on. I'm just not gonna notice things like that and bring it to the thread's attention, imo. So, pretty much just off that one post, I'm townie on kurumi. relatively townie on marv, actually. Out of all the people piling on lurkers yesterday, he had some actual reasons for voting lurkers. Marv can make up reasons if he needs to, but he didn't need to in that scenario, because everyone was just pooping on lurkers in general. Marv chose a specific lurker, for a reason, and pushed that guy. I like that a lot more than him just shotgunning at sylencia/cheesecake/hassy, and although I disagree with his assessment of hassy's posts this game as doing something and then disappearing, I can see where he's coming from. I also fully support stupid posting, staying in character, whatever, and I don't give two craps whether he puts effort into the game or not. It would be better if he did (so long as he's town), but On January 09 2012 15:49 Incognito wrote: What is Mafia? To put very simply, Mafia is a game of lying. marv carried my ass, and some other asses, a little while ago. I don't care if he wants to take one off and enjoy it. It's a game. Our job to solve it with or without his help. Anyway, I'm not scummy on him at the moment, when there are other scum suspects. jcarlsoniv is whatever he is. His claim timing is wonky, but not in a way that has me sure of any alignment. most of the rest of the players I don't have a particularly strong read on, or don't have any special thoughts about that you shouldn't. | ||
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gg all, enjoyed playing. | ||
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