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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 13 2013 20:31 GMT
#450
EBWOP: And don't dump that as "my personal little criteria". It was you who was spewing that shit.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 13 2013 20:41 GMT
#454
On February 14 2013 05:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On February 14 2013 05:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 14 2013 03:43 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 14 2013 03:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 14 2013 01:07 Keirathi wrote:
On February 14 2013 01:00 Hassybaby wrote:
Good afternoon gentlemen, I hope you're all well

I've been reading everything while at my internship, and this comment caught my eye:

On February 14 2013 00:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
And no, the first job of a townie is to establish his own innocence. As you should know.


Justify this, because that's the last thing that a townie should be worried about imo

I agree with Dandel. Having amazing reads is good and all, but the reality is that most of us mere mortals are wrong as often (and sometimes even MORE often) than we are right. Proving that you are town is way more beneficial to town as a whole than any individual day's reads.


And see, to me, that's a bit odd. Dandelion expresses how important it is that townies establish town cred (which I personally somewhat disagree that that's not necessarily #1, but that's a whole different discussion) and yet he has done nothing at all in my mind to try to establish his own townieness.

If anything, his behavior thus far has led me the other way.

I did not say I did.

Has anybody filled your personal little criteria of "establishing townieness" yet? Cuz I don't think so.



Not at all. Some people are appearing townier in my mind, but as far as I'm concerned, you're all scum until the day I die.

I just find it interesting that for someone who is parading around the fact that town members should try to establish townieness first and foremost, you sure ain't doing any of that. Do as I say, not as I do, I suppose...

Also, I would like to point out that since Blazinhand challenged me and I voted him, and Dandelion picked up the assault on Oats, BH has all but fallen off the face of the planet.

What is the point of that then?

I shall impart a secret to you: It's nigh impossible to do so at such an early date either way.

I must say, this does seem to me to be a seizing of an opportunity for you, more than anything else.
Had you actually wanted to make a point, this would not have been the way to go about it.

You said yourself that nobody did so yet. So to me, you using this as an opportunity to pile distasteful things onto me, it does not please me.


You're a big boy, I'm sure you'll get over it.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 14 2013 17:10 GMT
#636
Hey guys, just checking in real fast.

I've had a very stressful ~20 hours. I've been following along, but haven't had the mental capacity to post. I'll be back in a few hours, and when I return, I will be ready to help you guys kill some scum.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 14 2013 21:18 GMT
#696
Aight boys (and kitaman), I'm back. Gonna be looking over the last few pages.

Can anyone give me a few questions to ponder to kickstart my brain?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 14 2013 21:30 GMT
#707
Could we get an up to date vote count please? Would help me organize my thoughts.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 14 2013 22:07 GMT
#762
Ok, first and foremost, Duck 1.

The first time I read through while keeping up with you guys, I was getting a weird vibe from iamp. This was only confirmed further looking back through.

Iamp, you seem rather concerned with how people perceive you in this game.

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On February 15 2013 06:29 iamperfection wrote:
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On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote:
@austin:

How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do?
Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually.

The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III.

Maybe you should try harder then. I'm very easy to read

However u think your case makes it more likely that your town since scum no better than to come after me.


On February 15 2013 06:31 iamperfection wrote:
What are your thoughts on me Marv?


On February 15 2013 06:45 iamperfection wrote:
Keir am I town or scum go.


On February 15 2013 06:50 iamperfection wrote:
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On February 15 2013 06:47 Keirathi wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:45 iamperfection wrote:
Keir am I town or scum go.


On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote:
Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion.


On February 15 2013 06:37 Keirathi wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:33 marvellosity wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:32 Keirathi wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:25 austinmcc wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:22 Keirathi wrote:
@austin:

How does that compare to what a town iamp, specifically, would do?
Off the top of my head, I can only give the you the best answer I've got - I don't know, actually.

The only specific thing I remember about scum iamp is that he's more than willing to vote early. I have not refreshed my mind by reading any past games, although I remember him as scum in GSL Open III.

Well I'll share, because I think he has a very interesting playstyle.

Town iamp is quite capable of doing all those things you outlined. He says whatever pops in his head, randomly calls people our, and hardly ever is a major voice in getting someone lynched. He's a follower not a leader, but he does have unique viewpoints and opinions.

The major way to tell the difference between scum iamp and town iamp, though, is in his attitude. Town iamp just doesn't give a fuck. He will literally say anything that pops into his head, doesn't care how it makes him look. He doesn't apologize for it, or take things back, or hold his tongue. Scum iamp on the other hand is CAREFUL. Maybe that's not the best word for it, but I think it describes it perfectly. He tries not to make sure he pisses anyone off, he isn't as free and easy with his thoughts, and he's even less aggressive than normal.

Personally, I think ATM that he is kind of fitting into his scum persona atm. He just doesn't have that "I don't give a fuck" attitude in most of his posts. Im not sure I want to lynch him yet though, because there are hints of it, and I just want to see more before I come to a definite conclusion.


My inclinations are opposite. Interesting.

Like I said, some of his early posts (particularly the ones to me and you, two the people who know him best), and his posts in the last hour or so fit with what I expect to see from town iamp. A lot of his stuff in the middle just doesn't have that "zing" though.


It was a yes or no question not maybe or possibly


On February 15 2013 06:53 iamperfection wrote:
And maybe you should be asking me questions to figure out my alignment cross.

Just a thought



Why is it so important for people to reveal specifically what they think of you?


As for hassy, I can really only go off of other people's previous analysis and his contribution thus far. I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to lynching him as he has done nothing for town, but he probably isn't my first choice.

That said:
##unvote
##vote iamperfection
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 14 2013 22:08 GMT
#764
P.S.:

Marvel, you make it a pain in the ass to recap on shit. I have to read your posts 3 or 4 times to make sure I know what you're saying.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 14 2013 22:16 GMT
#775
On February 15 2013 07:12 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah the sylencia lynch is also bad. you're all bad


What's your thoughts right now BH (other than everyone is bad). Still want gonzaw dead?
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 14 2013 23:56 GMT
#933
So...oats? Ok
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 14 2013 23:58 GMT
#945
On February 15 2013 08:56 austinmcc wrote:
I DON'T REALLY LIKE THIS VOTE BUT THERE YOU GUYS GO.

I didn't see that keirathi was one of the extra votes despite being on oats already, so I double counted in thinking 9.


Nor do I, but is rather lynch than not
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 15 2013 00:08 GMT
#964
Lol lovely...
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 15 2013 00:14 GMT
#981
On February 15 2013 09:11 kitaman27 wrote:
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On February 15 2013 09:09 Crossfire99 wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:08 austinmcc wrote:
Wait, I'm sorry. Did we have someone create a power that kills the first voter, and then not see fit to note what was going to happen here?

Brilliant point. His role creator has a lot to explain why he didn't stop this. Well I really gtg so bye.


I was thinking the same thing. Wouldn't the role creator bring that up as town if he knew BH was going to get killed too? I think his role creator should claim and if he doesn't claim we assume he is scum.


Maybe his role creator thought it was possible that BH was scum.

Notice that my first vote was on BH.

Also, there was 5 minutes of panic voting, and I'm currently away from my computer.

Sorry it fucked us, but don't you fucking blame me for sheeting the fuck out of BH. I was all for iamperfection, but preferred a lynch over a no lynch.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 15 2013 00:21 GMT
#998
Note: I'm out for a friend's birthday for the night.

I'll read all your bitching and whining about the role I created later.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 15 2013 01:48 GMT
#1024
Yes, I created oats' role. No it was not meant to be encrypted.

Will be back at some point tomorrow.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 15 2013 13:36 GMT
#1030
Morning.

On February 15 2013 10:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On February 15 2013 10:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Yes, I created oats' role. No it was not meant to be encrypted.

Will be back at some point tomorrow.

Explain the post you made right after the nightpost, then.


There isn't a whole lot to explain.

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On February 15 2013 09:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On February 15 2013 09:11 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:09 Crossfire99 wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:08 austinmcc wrote:
Wait, I'm sorry. Did we have someone create a power that kills the first voter, and then not see fit to note what was going to happen here?

Brilliant point. His role creator has a lot to explain why he didn't stop this. Well I really gtg so bye.


I was thinking the same thing. Wouldn't the role creator bring that up as town if he knew BH was going to get killed too? I think his role creator should claim and if he doesn't claim we assume he is scum.


Maybe his role creator thought it was possible that BH was scum.

Notice that my first vote was on BH.

Also, there was 5 minutes of panic voting, and I'm currently away from my computer.

Sorry it fucked us, but don't you fucking blame me for sheeting the fuck out of BH. I was all for iamperfection, but preferred a lynch over a no lynch.



I switch from 3rd person to 1st person between the 1st and 2nd lines. I didn't intend nor realize it could be taken as cryptic. It was just the way I worded it.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 15 2013 13:53 GMT
#1032
On February 15 2013 22:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On February 15 2013 22:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Morning.

On February 15 2013 10:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
On February 15 2013 10:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Yes, I created oats' role. No it was not meant to be encrypted.

Will be back at some point tomorrow.

Explain the post you made right after the nightpost, then.


There isn't a whole lot to explain.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 15 2013 09:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 09:11 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:09 Crossfire99 wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:08 austinmcc wrote:
Wait, I'm sorry. Did we have someone create a power that kills the first voter, and then not see fit to note what was going to happen here?

Brilliant point. His role creator has a lot to explain why he didn't stop this. Well I really gtg so bye.


I was thinking the same thing. Wouldn't the role creator bring that up as town if he knew BH was going to get killed too? I think his role creator should claim and if he doesn't claim we assume he is scum.


Maybe his role creator thought it was possible that BH was scum.

Notice that my first vote was on BH.

Also, there was 5 minutes of panic voting, and I'm currently away from my computer.

Sorry it fucked us, but don't you fucking blame me for sheeting the fuck out of BH. I was all for iamperfection, but preferred a lynch over a no lynch.



I switch from 3rd person to 1st person between the 1st and 2nd lines. I didn't intend nor realize it could be taken as cryptic. It was just the way I worded it.

That's not the one I meant.


Well, I've only made a few posts since the night post, and this was the only one of any significance. So please, be direct with me, I don't have the patience to run around a bush right now.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 15 2013 14:14 GMT
#1046
On February 15 2013 23:02 iamperfection wrote:
jcarl what do you think of marv?


I think his posting is a pain in the ass to read, (although I enjoy reading a nice Game of Thrones novel in the middle of a mafia game), but nothing so far has really raised any flags for me.

Why, what do YOU think of him? And dandelion, for that matter.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 15 2013 17:00 GMT
#1073
On February 16 2013 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
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On February 16 2013 00:24 iamperfection wrote:

i want jcarl to explain this from before
On February 15 2013 09:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:11 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:09 Crossfire99 wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:08 austinmcc wrote:
Wait, I'm sorry. Did we have someone create a power that kills the first voter, and then not see fit to note what was going to happen here?

Brilliant point. His role creator has a lot to explain why he didn't stop this. Well I really gtg so bye.


I was thinking the same thing. Wouldn't the role creator bring that up as town if he knew BH was going to get killed too? I think his role creator should claim and if he doesn't claim we assume he is scum.


Maybe his role creator thought it was possible that BH was scum.

Notice that my first vote was on BH.

Also, there was 5 minutes of panic voting, and I'm currently away from my computer.

Sorry it fucked us, but don't you fucking blame me for sheeting the fuck out of BH. I was all for iamperfection, but preferred a lynch over a no lynch.

this post as i already pointed out if he thought bh was scum why was he trying to kill me.


This gentleman is also interested in this particular discourse.


Early in the day, I was leaning scum on BH. Note that I placed my vote on him. As the day went on, these feelings dissipated slightly, enough so that I wasn't going to push the case (nor did I have the time to do so).

I switched my vote to iamperfection. It was coming time to consolidate votes (votes were scattered everywhere). At the time, iamperfection was the best candidate in my eyes. Everything looked fine, I left to go across campus to be with my friends.

I check the thread on my phone and notice that BH has started a panic switch onto oatsmaster. I have seen panic switches in the past, and often (in my experience) they are led by scum day 1 because town has no clue about anyone.

Ok, cool. I made oats' role, so I know that if he's lynched, BH will also go down. Since my previous feeling of BH were not gone, this wasn't the end of the world in my eyes.

Had I been actually at my computer when BH snowballed the panic switch, I may have reacted differently. However, I cannot change the RL circumstances.

Clearly I was wrong about BH, and for that I apologize.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 15 2013 17:09 GMT
#1075
On February 16 2013 02:05 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 02:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 16 2013 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
On February 16 2013 00:24 iamperfection wrote:

i want jcarl to explain this from before
On February 15 2013 09:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:11 kitaman27 wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:09 Crossfire99 wrote:
On February 15 2013 09:08 austinmcc wrote:
Wait, I'm sorry. Did we have someone create a power that kills the first voter, and then not see fit to note what was going to happen here?

Brilliant point. His role creator has a lot to explain why he didn't stop this. Well I really gtg so bye.


I was thinking the same thing. Wouldn't the role creator bring that up as town if he knew BH was going to get killed too? I think his role creator should claim and if he doesn't claim we assume he is scum.


Maybe his role creator thought it was possible that BH was scum.

Notice that my first vote was on BH.

Also, there was 5 minutes of panic voting, and I'm currently away from my computer.

Sorry it fucked us, but don't you fucking blame me for sheeting the fuck out of BH. I was all for iamperfection, but preferred a lynch over a no lynch.

this post as i already pointed out if he thought bh was scum why was he trying to kill me.


This gentleman is also interested in this particular discourse.


Early in the day, I was leaning scum on BH. Note that I placed my vote on him. As the day went on, these feelings dissipated slightly, enough so that I wasn't going to push the case (nor did I have the time to do so).

I switched my vote to iamperfection. It was coming time to consolidate votes (votes were scattered everywhere). At the time, iamperfection was the best candidate in my eyes. Everything looked fine, I left to go across campus to be with my friends.

I check the thread on my phone and notice that BH has started a panic switch onto oatsmaster. I have seen panic switches in the past, and often (in my experience) they are led by scum day 1 because town has no clue about anyone.

Ok, cool. I made oats' role, so I know that if he's lynched, BH will also go down. Since my previous feeling of BH were not gone, this wasn't the end of the world in my eyes.

Had I been actually at my computer when BH snowballed the panic switch, I may have reacted differently. However, I cannot change the RL circumstances.

Clearly I was wrong about BH, and for that I apologize.


This is some understandable discourse. Stut-utt-utt-ers also provides insight with his comment about the lack of necessity of claiming you created the role.

Would you care to play along with my request from earlier, gentleman?


Filtering sylencia? Surely, when I get the chance. Currently at my internship.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 15 2013 17:31 GMT
#1076
LOL wow that filter...

Yeah I could see sylencia being scum.

Also, what ever happened to cheesecake?
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