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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 06 2013 15:12 GMT
#26
Time to remind myself why I don't like playing these games.
/in
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 06 2013 18:08 GMT
#32
Also, I will not be modkilled.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 07 2013 08:35 GMT
#65
I think it's time for a policy lynch on risk.nuke this game.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 07 2013 09:36 GMT
#69
On February 07 2013 18:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
I wanted to lynch risk.nuke once for being a meanie. Radfield dickslapped me and so I shot the Godfather instead.

The moral of this story is: risk.nuke is always a townie...and never not a townie. Spare the risk.nuke, spoil the mafia agenda. Or something like that.

BYE

I didn't know WBG already sent out the roles, VisceraEyes.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 13 2013 22:57 GMT
#121
On February 14 2013 07:13 Coagulation wrote:
hey guys im town.

Clear scumtell, scum. Only scum would claim to be town while not actually town. You mind as well confess now.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 14 2013 09:51 GMT
#165
What does yamato need to explain when all he's done is ask questions?
##vote: Zessionar
For making statements that don't make sense.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 14 2013 10:35 GMT
#167
Then I am voting you again for OMGUS after I already voted for you.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 14 2013 12:42 GMT
#175
On February 14 2013 21:25 Zessionar wrote:
anyway... do you think syllos play is strange if he's town?

No, because you want to get information out of others since you already know your own role. You can do that by pressure or by asking questions. Since apparently they have history, I don't find it surprising he'd go after Sandroba.
if not, do you think yamatos question implies that it's strange?
if yes, do think it's scummy to call syllos play strange, when it actually isnt strange at all?

His post was before risk clarified that syllo and sandroba knew eachother well and that they can tell if the other is scum quickly. If he simply didn't understand the logic behind it, then I would consider it null. If he does know about their meta, then I'd consider it slightly strange/scummy. I would assume they have meta from the way syllo formulated his question, but I can understand the question.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 14 2013 12:47 GMT
#177
On February 14 2013 21:29 Vivax wrote:
Zess, scumreads? Do you think I'm town?

Why are you asking someone if they think you're town, especially this early in the game?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 14 2013 13:10 GMT
#181
On February 14 2013 22:03 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:29 Vivax wrote:
Zess, scumreads? Do you think I'm town?

Why are you asking someone if they think you're town, especially this early in the game?


Can't you think of a reason?

Can't think of any where asking about scumreads wouldn't be better than town reads.
Speaking of which. Who do you currently think is scum?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 14 2013 13:33 GMT
#186
On February 14 2013 22:17 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 22:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 22:03 Vivax wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:29 Vivax wrote:
Zess, scumreads? Do you think I'm town?

Why are you asking someone if they think you're town, especially this early in the game?


Can't you think of a reason?

Can't think of any where asking about scumreads wouldn't be better than town reads.
Speaking of which. Who do you currently think is scum?


Mattchew and WeWin have made bad posts so far, layabout didn't give a fuck about the votes on him and his activity has been grotesque.

What about your scumreads?You think I'm town?

I don't like Risk.nuke questioning posts that are obviously meant as a joke and taking them seriously (Zessioniar's initial vote), then defending himself by saying he's a poor scum player. I don't like WeWin or hiro for keeping information from town but I don't put much weight on it. I don't think Mattchew looks scum, that post doesn't feel scummy to me. Bad, yes, but not scummy.
I also don't like your posts because they focus a lot on you and trying to find out what your image is. If you're town, you should be finding scum, not trying to find out how other people think about you. The post on WeWin I like though. Points out the same thing Risk.Nuke was doing; taking peopel posting for a laugh too serious. Considering both things you're null to me.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 14 2013 13:40 GMT
#188
On February 14 2013 22:29 Mattchew wrote:
Artanis what do you think of Vivax's scumreads post

Anyone can name three names, but there's not much to go off yet. It doesn't really say anything to me other than information to help with reads later.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 14 2013 13:51 GMT
#192
On February 14 2013 22:40 Vivax wrote:
Artanis, why hasn't a single of your posts been directed towards these players if you have reason to believe they are scum?

WinWin and HiroPro were already being pressured with the exact question I had, so I didn't feel the need to post it as well. I also don't see what answer risk.nuke could give to a question regarding not taking my post seriously yet taking that of Zess serious in any way that would help my read on him since it was about a gut response that would now be reasoned. Also, it's only a small tell to me, not enough to judge someone over immediately. I'd rather see if he gives me more reason to suspect him in future interactions.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 14 2013 19:45 GMT
#316
Zessionar, please stop posting every single thought that comes into your head and consolidate into posts that actually make sense. Right now you're spamming the thread with a ton of oneliners which shit up the thread badly and make it hard to read.
On February 15 2013 04:28 Zessionar wrote:
how is revealing me "protown"
especially after i revealed myself to toad...

Because then we have a reference point for how you usually play so we can figure you out rather than you remaining an enigma? Meta can help heaps, obviously.


On February 15 2013 01:18 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 22:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 22:17 Vivax wrote:
On February 14 2013 22:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 22:03 Vivax wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:29 Vivax wrote:
Zess, scumreads? Do you think I'm town?

Why are you asking someone if they think you're town, especially this early in the game?


Can't you think of a reason?

Can't think of any where asking about scumreads wouldn't be better than town reads.
Speaking of which. Who do you currently think is scum?


Mattchew and WeWin have made bad posts so far, layabout didn't give a fuck about the votes on him and his activity has been grotesque.

What about your scumreads?You think I'm town?

I don't like Risk.nuke questioning posts that are obviously meant as a joke and taking them seriously (Zessioniar's initial vote), then defending himself by saying he's a poor scum player.

What are you talking about, are we playing the same game? I questioned somebody who put their vote on me. How did you interpret his post as obviously a joke?

Furthermore I didn't say I'm a poor scumplayer to defend myself. I used the empirical evidence that I hadn't performed well as scum to prove that his claimed reasoning was false or more to the point, made up.

So if you vote on someone it's suddenly serious? In that case, I suggest we analyze ObviousOne and Grush57 for their votes on LayAbout too. I don't think anyone that uses the average chance of lynching a mafia as reasoning is being serious, though with how he's been playing I may have been wrong on that.


Zess, do you feel you're playing well this game? Do you think posting a lot of oneliners is better for town than putting your thoughts concisely into one post? If not, why are you doing so?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 15 2013 10:17 GMT
#411
I'm here right now, slept most of day 1 because my left eye decided to hate on me. I think the case on yamato was weak; It's a small step to go from anti-town to scum, and rethinking it can be enough reason to change your opinion. Though I don't like that Yamato didn't straight out say that he now thinks he's scum earlier, I don't see it as a scum trait. I'm much more interested in Zessionar, HiroPro or WeWinMafia. I like Risk.Nuke's pressure on Zessionar so he feels a bit better now.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 15 2013 14:15 GMT
#433
It's cool that you want that Zess, but I'd rather see you lynched than any of those.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 15 2013 14:32 GMT
#438
You should ignore yourself then, as the amount of oneliners without content you've posted in this thread far exceeds mine. My posts have been concise and reasoned, whereas yours are + Show Spoiler +
frantic:
On February 15 2013 01:03 Zessionar wrote:
where are you going with that shit, marv?
do you want to make me look bad because of my super-earlygame posts?
screw you.
discussion ends right here.

horribly reasoned:
On February 14 2013 08:41 Zessionar wrote:
i picked risk.nuke, because he's decent as scum and useless and paranoid as town...
if he's town, i hope he'll prove me wrong this game...

Without content
On February 14 2013 21:48 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 21:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:25 Zessionar wrote:
anyway... do you think syllos play is strange if he's town?

No, because you want to get information out of others since you already know your own role. You can do that by pressure or by asking questions. Since apparently they have history, I don't find it surprising he'd go after Sandroba.
if not, do you think yamatos question implies that it's strange?
if yes, do think it's scummy to call syllos play strange, when it actually isnt strange at all?

His post was before risk clarified that syllo and sandroba knew eachother well and that they can tell if the other is scum quickly. If he simply didn't understand the logic behind it, then I would consider it null. If he does know about their meta, then I'd consider it slightly strange/scummy. I would assume they have meta from the way syllo formulated his question, but I can understand the question.


unvote me.

Downright atrocious:
On February 15 2013 02:18 Zessionar wrote:
Another topic:
Masons, claim!

In general your game has been horrible. I don't know if you're scum or bad town, but I don't see any better candidate so far. How about you take your own advice and reason why your list is good? I'm guessing it's going to come down to the amount of posts, which is a terrible reason as you have a shitton of posts which amount to nothing.

Furthermore
On February 14 2013 21:25 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 21:08 syllogism wrote:
On February 14 2013 20:53 sandroba wrote:
@syllo I don't see anything alignment indicative in matchew's post. If anything, it's slightly townie to say something like that, even though it's not a good way to go about things. I wonder why you singled out that post instead of zessionar who over explained his risk vote and when confronted about his explanation he backed off.


I singled it out because it was one of the few posts with somewhat controversial content and I wanted to see if you would reach reach the same conclusion as I did, which you did. Zessionar's explanation didn't jump out to me as over explaining. I looked at him again and while his explanation seems somewhat nonsensical, he has been fairly active and spammy so far, which is slightly towny. I also think that his question asking why someone else is smurfing is feels genuine, in particular because he himself appears to be smurfing and perhaps thought that WeWinMafia's reasons for smurfing differ from his, perhaps in a way that to him might be alignment indicative.


i am not sure if it's alignment indicative just yet. but yes, i never thought about pretending i am someone else, like he is... at least not as town, since smurfing in general is rather antitown - confusing everyone else with even more strange stuff seems to be too much.
but he just could have made that part up, to keep his identity covered. right now he looks like toadesstern to me... with all the smilies...

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Then I am voting you again for OMGUS after I already voted for you.


anyway... do you think syllos play is strange if he's town?
if not, do you think yamatos question implies that it's strange?
if yes, do think it's scummy to call syllos play strange, when it actually isnt strange at all?


You say here that smurfing is anti town, yet you decided to smurf yourself without giving away your identity immediately after getting your role. Yet later, you state
On February 15 2013 04:28 Zessionar wrote:
how is revealing me "protown"
especially after i revealed myself to toad...

So smurfing is antitown, yet YOU getting revealed is antitown. Care to explain?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 15 2013 14:38 GMT
#440
On February 15 2013 23:34 Zessionar wrote:
because a townie that wants to win is either honest and says he didnt do his homework or he fucking does his homework and doesnt come up with terrible cases.
first four players... speedanalysis...

Are you serious?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 15 2013 14:41 GMT
#443
He claims that townies wouldn't put up a case without much research, yet he throws down 'speed cases'. The word speed case implies to me that he only took a quick look. If he's been more thorough, than that definition seems very off.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 15 2013 14:46 GMT
#446
On February 15 2013 23:40 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 23:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
You should ignore yourself then, as the amount of oneliners without content you've posted in this thread far exceeds mine. My posts have been concise and reasoned, whereas yours are + Show Spoiler +
frantic:
On February 15 2013 01:03 Zessionar wrote:
where are you going with that shit, marv?
do you want to make me look bad because of my super-earlygame posts?
screw you.
discussion ends right here.

horribly reasoned:
On February 14 2013 08:41 Zessionar wrote:
i picked risk.nuke, because he's decent as scum and useless and paranoid as town...
if he's town, i hope he'll prove me wrong this game...

Without content
On February 14 2013 21:48 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 21:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:25 Zessionar wrote:
anyway... do you think syllos play is strange if he's town?

No, because you want to get information out of others since you already know your own role. You can do that by pressure or by asking questions. Since apparently they have history, I don't find it surprising he'd go after Sandroba.
if not, do you think yamatos question implies that it's strange?
if yes, do think it's scummy to call syllos play strange, when it actually isnt strange at all?

His post was before risk clarified that syllo and sandroba knew eachother well and that they can tell if the other is scum quickly. If he simply didn't understand the logic behind it, then I would consider it null. If he does know about their meta, then I'd consider it slightly strange/scummy. I would assume they have meta from the way syllo formulated his question, but I can understand the question.


unvote me.

Downright atrocious:
On February 15 2013 02:18 Zessionar wrote:
Another topic:
Masons, claim!

In general your game has been horrible. I don't know if you're scum or bad town, but I don't see any better candidate so far. How about you take your own advice and reason why your list is good? I'm guessing it's going to come down to the amount of posts, which is a terrible reason as you have a shitton of posts which amount to nothing.

Furthermore
On February 14 2013 21:25 Zessionar wrote:
On February 14 2013 21:08 syllogism wrote:
On February 14 2013 20:53 sandroba wrote:
@syllo I don't see anything alignment indicative in matchew's post. If anything, it's slightly townie to say something like that, even though it's not a good way to go about things. I wonder why you singled out that post instead of zessionar who over explained his risk vote and when confronted about his explanation he backed off.


I singled it out because it was one of the few posts with somewhat controversial content and I wanted to see if you would reach reach the same conclusion as I did, which you did. Zessionar's explanation didn't jump out to me as over explaining. I looked at him again and while his explanation seems somewhat nonsensical, he has been fairly active and spammy so far, which is slightly towny. I also think that his question asking why someone else is smurfing is feels genuine, in particular because he himself appears to be smurfing and perhaps thought that WeWinMafia's reasons for smurfing differ from his, perhaps in a way that to him might be alignment indicative.


i am not sure if it's alignment indicative just yet. but yes, i never thought about pretending i am someone else, like he is... at least not as town, since smurfing in general is rather antitown - confusing everyone else with even more strange stuff seems to be too much.
but he just could have made that part up, to keep his identity covered. right now he looks like toadesstern to me... with all the smilies...

On February 14 2013 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Then I am voting you again for OMGUS after I already voted for you.


anyway... do you think syllos play is strange if he's town?
if not, do you think yamatos question implies that it's strange?
if yes, do think it's scummy to call syllos play strange, when it actually isnt strange at all?


You say here that smurfing is anti town, yet you decided to smurf yourself without giving away your identity immediately after getting your role. Yet later, you state
On February 15 2013 04:28 Zessionar wrote:
how is revealing me "protown"
especially after i revealed myself to toad...

So smurfing is antitown, yet YOU getting revealed is antitown. Care to explain?


I said ____IN GENERAL____ IF you FAIL to read, I cannot help you Idiot.
If you'd just read some of my former games, you'd see that i fucking die extremely early if i reveal myself.

Calling people idiots is generally not a good way to hold a discussion. I also see precious little reason to presume you'd get shot early given how you've been playing.

Last two games:

Dessert:
I got the Serialkiller day1 but couldnt get him lynched,
Scumteam AND Serialkiller shot me night1
we lost that game

Toads mafiagame:
I got shot n2 and I correctly named the last two remaining scumteammembers in my final list. We won that game

________________

if I smurf and make sure, that I survive to day3, we win this game. So the general rule doesnt apply for me.

Though I didn't know that, I'm not about to rely on you winning us the game by day 3. I haven't seen your previous game. I'm expecting you to prove to me THIS game that you're an 'exception', and so far you've been playing poorly (until these cases at least which I still need to read through more thoroughly)
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