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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 18:51 GMT
#585
Of course it really was Bang Bang, you weirdo Didn't just give you some random name for giggles, lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 20:03 GMT
#612
Guys, let's lynch Vivax:

On February 16 2013 03:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 03:10 Zessionar wrote:
i want to lynch vivax, because he's the most annoying person in this game, everything he posts is either just wrong or exagerated. His reads are paranoid, he completely refuses to listen to logic and he's overall disturbing...

but sadly he plays like this as town, therefor we have to carry him around with us until we get shot.
If one thing is 100% sure in this game, it is the fact that scum won't do us the huge favour to kill him...


No, I completely disagree with you. Here's why. As town he pushes his reads. HARD. For good, or for bad. Usually for bad, but hey. Maybe he learnt not to be a madman after LIX, right? But still, he would push his lynch.

In this game he doesn't push his reads. His read is you. He comes in - makes a couple of posts about it, then leaves. He then responds within 5 minutes to me calling him out, even though there's been plenty of other stuff in the thread. He's not trying to get you lynched. If he was town, he would be trying to get you lynched. As mafia, he's happy to call you mafia, and then go away and let the rest of town argue about yamato/Hopeless/whoever

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 20:06 GMT
#614
Mostly at the moment I think he's just absent.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 20:12 GMT
#617
there's way too many ppl not playing this game -.-
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 20:18 GMT
#622
On February 16 2013 05:12 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 05:08 sandroba wrote:
I still think toad is scum. Maybe I'm biased but I don't see that supersoft defense as townie at all. I think it looks pretty forced and he took it as an opportunity to try to look townie. I'ma keep my vote on him and see how the thread develops, since I can't really prove he is scum and yam doesn't look so hot himself.

It's a bit weird how Toad never got more than one vote despite us both being suspicious of him at various points.


How can you say "it's a bit weird" when this was the extent of your suspicions of Toad?

On February 16 2013 00:15 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 00:10 sandroba wrote:
Alright I'll settle on lynching toad then. Does anyone have any compeling reason to believe the dude is town?

His conversations with marvel seem somewhat genuine, in that if marvel is mafia, toad is slightly less likely to be. I'm up for lynching him though, due to what I said earlier and him posting quite a bit without the content being in any way useful.


On February 16 2013 04:10 syllogism wrote:
Toad is looking a bit better due to his supersoft interactions, which seems to leave yamato as the realistic and acceptable lynch. I don't think I'm willing to lynch supersoft today. He could be mafia, but he seems to be more aggressive than he was as mafia in LVIII and he is likely going to be more active and useful than yamato, who isn't even here.



[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 20:24 GMT
#626
On February 16 2013 05:23 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 05:18 marvellosity wrote:
On February 16 2013 05:12 syllogism wrote:
On February 16 2013 05:08 sandroba wrote:
I still think toad is scum. Maybe I'm biased but I don't see that supersoft defense as townie at all. I think it looks pretty forced and he took it as an opportunity to try to look townie. I'ma keep my vote on him and see how the thread develops, since I can't really prove he is scum and yam doesn't look so hot himself.

It's a bit weird how Toad never got more than one vote despite us both being suspicious of him at various points.


How can you say "it's a bit weird" when this was the extent of your suspicions of Toad?

On February 16 2013 00:15 syllogism wrote:
On February 16 2013 00:10 sandroba wrote:
Alright I'll settle on lynching toad then. Does anyone have any compeling reason to believe the dude is town?

His conversations with marvel seem somewhat genuine, in that if marvel is mafia, toad is slightly less likely to be. I'm up for lynching him though, due to what I said earlier and him posting quite a bit without the content being in any way useful.


On February 16 2013 04:10 syllogism wrote:
Toad is looking a bit better due to his supersoft interactions, which seems to leave yamato as the realistic and acceptable lynch. I don't think I'm willing to lynch supersoft today. He could be mafia, but he seems to be more aggressive than he was as mafia in LVIII and he is likely going to be more active and useful than yamato, who isn't even here.




That's not the extent of my suspicions

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17793213
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17794483

My point is mostly that if one of the people we are pushing right now is mafia, I would have expected mafia at some point make an attempt at getting Toad lynched. It's much easier and safer to push a lynch that has the support of players people often listen to. Perhaps they opted to wagon someone else.



Does this not suggest that Toad could be mafia, then?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 20:24 GMT
#627
sandroba seems to disagree with you on his supersoft stuff. thoughts on that too?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 20:28 GMT
#629
On February 16 2013 05:26 Zessionar wrote:
what supersoft stuff


On February 16 2013 04:10 syllogism wrote:
Toad is looking a bit better due to his supersoft interactions, which seems to leave yamato as the realistic and acceptable lynch. I don't think I'm willing to lynch supersoft today. He could be mafia, but he seems to be more aggressive than he was as mafia in LVIII and he is likely going to be more active and useful than yamato, who isn't even here.


On February 16 2013 05:08 sandroba wrote:
I still think toad is scum. Maybe I'm biased but I don't see that supersoft defense as townie at all. I think it looks pretty forced and he took it as an opportunity to try to look townie. I'ma keep my vote on him and see how the thread develops, since I can't really prove he is scum and yam doesn't look so hot himself.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 20:30 GMT
#631
Anyway. No-one wants to lynch Vivax even though he's mafia. sandroba knows Toad very well, I get the strongest town-feelings from sand out of all the players I respect, so I'm in with him.

##Unvote
##Vote: WeWinMafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 20:31 GMT
#636
On February 16 2013 05:30 Zessionar wrote:
ah yes okay. marv please quit playing like a moderator and have own opinions.
whats your opinion on the supersoft stuff :-o


i have my own opinions. i'm not playing for your pleasure. in fact my own opinion is that vivax is the best lynch, I even directly responded to you about Vivax and asked you to respond to it repeatedly, but you failed to.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 20:35 GMT
#638
syllo, you're awfully cagey and in the middle today.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 20:54 GMT
#643
On February 16 2013 05:53 HiroPro wrote:
Also I get a very bad feeling from marv's posting. There's nothing specific that I can point to but I get the sense that he is willing to push almost any of the wagons. It feels a lot like he just adds fuel to the fire whenever something pops up. The only person who he hasn't really done that with is yamato.


what? i was at hopeless/toad and now I'm at Vivax/toad. what are you talking about?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 20:56 GMT
#647
i was suspicious of supersoft for being suspicious of me, and hopeless brought up a good point. should be pretty clear i'm not up for a supersoft lynch at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 20:58 GMT
#648
in fact the only time i've been caught as mafia through analysis, it was because i was suspicious of few people, whereas normally as town i'm suspicious of everyone. so i have no idea what you're smoking actually.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 21:02 GMT
#650
yes, which is completely irrelevant. what are you doing, hiro?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 21:05 GMT
#653
On February 16 2013 06:04 HiroPro wrote:
how is that irrelevant? It looks like what you are doing in this game.


then you're blind and bad. but ok.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 21:09 GMT
#655
On February 16 2013 06:07 ObviousOne wrote:
Don't know about you other fruity pebbles but Zessionar is looking mighty overripe.
##Vote Zessionar

He has expressed interest in having everyone show their seedy innards for all to see, especially where the grapes (with their invaluable vines) are concerned.

Not to terribly sure what kind of fruit salad he was concocting in his shopping list:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 08:29 Zessionar wrote:
and who is the scummiest player among these:

HiroPro
Hopeless1der
Artanis[Xp]
yamato77
grush57
layabout

Doesn't match up with his following list very well, despite having a list of fruits he potentially wanted to see chopped up (why did grush yamato and layabout drop off?):
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 15 2013 23:34 Zessionar wrote:
2. ObviousOne Filter: 1 page

this game
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397206&user=263107

old VT day1 game
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836&user=263107

he's really only trolling this game. He was playing much more serious in his last game.
either blue or scum. makes no sense as VT -
trolling newbie players that are VT are definetely playing against their wincondition.
He stays in the lynchlist.

4. Mattchew Filter: 1 page

Vivax I think I underestimated your actual abilities and underestimated your confidence... These lead to a misguided read on you... I don't necessarily agree with how you've started this game but I'm leaning a little more null on you... Revealing supersoft is pretty towny IMO too.
"is pretty townie"
i'd like to hear why this is pretty townie tbh.
I don't know why he's buddying up with vivax.

Mattchews playstyle makes no sense to me so far. He has no goal... But well could be game specific...
He should stay in the lynchlist for now

7. HiroPro Filter: 1 page

"Also I demand that marvellosity share who this person he wanted to lynch in the beginning was."
This is kind of townish. As scum i don't really want to remind marv of his secret target...

I'd let him off the hook for today :-/
I mean his mostcount surely looks terrible but everyones post count looks terrible...

10. Hopeless1der Filter

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On February 14 2013 22:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
On February 14 2013 08:41 Zessionar wrote:
i picked risk.nuke, because he's decent as scum and useless and paranoid as town...
if he's town, i hope he'll prove me wrong this game...

Zess, how exagerated was this statement? You immediately backed off, but I'd like to hear about where you drew the conclusions that risk was
A) decent as scum
B) Useless and paranoid as town

Either of the two would be acceptable, as I think you're scum for pulling reasons out of thin air with no justification.


the whole discussion about my game-starter-vote on risk seems to be so exagerated from my point of view...
I think it was obvious, that this vote had almost no deeper meaning... Maybe it's my fault that people put too much thinking into this... I think accusing me for that randomvote was the perfect situation for scum to look like contributing.
don't know if hopeless is just bad and didnt see how unimportant that whole thing was, or i am bad that i put too much effort into explaining something, that had no explanation in the first place or he's scum...

"I voted for you because I find YOU suspicious, and I felt Vivax was going to jump all over me for not voting because he's pigheaded that way."
hmmm i don't like that very much... it's so weak. These votes on me are just terrible.
I if you're town and you want to win, you don't want to lynch me. That's just dumb.
Everyone who does a little research knows, that i get shot early as town... but whatever. It's just sad, that many players do no research about their favourite lynchcandidate. I mean a bad case should be a scumtell, because a townie that wants to win is either honest and says he didnt do his homework or he fucking does his homework and doesnt come up with terrible cases.


__________________________________________________


first four players... speedanalysis...


and
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 15 2013 23:04 Zessionar wrote:
Okay, we have about 9 hours left if i am correct:

2. ObviousOne Filter
4. Mattchew Filter
7. HiroPro Filter
10. Hopeless1der Filter
11. Artanis[Xp] Filter
13. yamato77 Filter
14. grush57 Filter
15. layabout Filter

in the next 5 hours, i want everyone to focus on these players. I know it's half of the players in this game.
One of them will be lynched today.

in 5 hours, we will break the list down to 4 of them and in 7 hours i want only 2 of them left and in 8 hours, i want to have one guy with enough votes for a lynch.

that's my plan. Marv, toad I expect you to be helping me there.

The net is wide enough to capture fruits of either disposition and thus vague enough to be used safely.

The lists also don't appear to step on any toes.


we're not lynching zessionar today. are you actually going to play the game this evening?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 21:18 GMT
#661
On February 16 2013 06:16 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2013 05:56 marvellosity wrote:
i was suspicious of supersoft for being suspicious of me, and hopeless brought up a good point. should be pretty clear i'm not up for a supersoft lynch at all.


you started to suspect me based on hopeless shit.
after that i knew you're scum
i still think you're scum


then you're bad as well. the point hopeless raised was a good one.

in fact you're very fond yourself of picking up on little things like that.

the fact you make exceptions for toad or fellow germans or whatever, is something i couldn't know.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 21:19 GMT
#663
1h 42
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 15 2013 21:20 GMT
#665
i still don't get why people don't give a shit that Vivax isn't here pushing stuff, when normally he screams like a maniac as town.

i don't get it at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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