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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 15:19 GMT
#1250
layabout if i am not a shining beacon of town you can't be reading the game
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 15:48 GMT
#1255
On February 18 2013 00:29 layabout wrote:
artanis the list is just the people outside of the 9 that killed yamato no need to get mad.

what are you gonna do if mattchew doesn't come back and why him over coag?

Not mad, just found it funny to copy your post.

Keep my vote on him unless he can't be lynched in which case I'll lynch whomever else I think is most scummy. I'm voting Matt because I want him to come back to the thread. If he's not coming back then he's either useless town or lurking scum. Voting on him might actually get more information regarding his alignment whereas I have little hope I'd get anything out of Coag right now since Coag does what Coag wants to do.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 16:25 GMT
#1263
Hello Matt, glad you could join us.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 16:35 GMT
#1264
On February 18 2013 01:10 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
1h 15 minutes to lynch
Zessionar (6) - yamato77, Vivax, grush57, ObviousOne, risk.nuke, Artanix[XP]
yamato77 (4) - HiroPro, layabout, WeWinMafia, syllogism
WeWinMafia (2) - sandroba, marvellosity
HiroPro (1) - Coagulation
Not Voting: Coagulation, Mattchew, Zessionar, Hopeless1der

Show nested quote +
25 minutes to lynch
yamato77 (7) - HiroPro, layabout, WeWinMafia, syllogism, sandroba, Zessionar, marvellosity
Zessionar (5) - yamato77, Vivax, ObviousOne, risk.nuke, Artanix[XP]
HiroPro (1) - Coagulation
Vivax (1) - Hopeless1der
risk.nuke (1) - grush57


this move is very interesting.

This only seems significant if Zessionar is scum too, presuming you're talking about the grush switch. Otherwise he'd be going from a town lynch steering towards a no lynch which would not only look bad for him but also prevent a townie from dying. Do you suspect Zessionar?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 16:45 GMT
#1266
On February 18 2013 01:35 Mattchew wrote:
Its interesting from the vivax switch

But vivax stayed on Zess on both of these unless I'm missing something.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 17:53 GMT
#1299
I currently have no clue who to vote but I'm satisfied about Matt right now.
##Unvote
Just read the PM more closely and didn't realize the person I passed the gun to could shoot at any time. That's why I didn't mention it as I didn't want him to get roleblocked. I did pass it to Syllo, yeah.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 18:18 GMT
#1314
Yeah, sucks. I didn't realize you could shoot at the day or I wouldn't have mentioned it at all since I figured you wouldn't reveal yourself as to not get roleblocked.

I'm fine with a Risk.Nuke shot. Looks like a good shot at getting scum and even if we miss, we're still in a good position.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 18:30 GMT
#1318
Hopeless, can you address Syllo's points?
On February 18 2013 02:24 syllogism wrote:
Sandro: does hopeless1der still look the same to you?

Him jumping on the yamato wagon pretty early, then randomly switching to Zessionar only to fairly weakly unvote a bit later strikes suspicious to me. He didn't really explain why his yamato suspicions waned or why he found vivax more suspicious. His original reasons for voting yamato were still all applicable, but he didn't turn around until almost last possible moment. He also seemed to have forgotten why he found yamatos suspicious in the first place.

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 20:07 GMT
#1350
Can someone say exactly why this means Marv is scum because I'm missing the logic here.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 20:22 GMT
#1360
On February 18 2013 05:18 sandroba wrote:
If you flip mafia I'll kill toad btw =P

You have KP? O_O
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 20:27 GMT
#1364
Guys
Guys
Let's lynch Syllogism, I have a good feeling about this.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 20:34 GMT
#1371
Is it strange that my motivation suddenly dropped? I feel like the game is practically solved. Two scum deaths and no townie deaths yet with plenty of people looking very green.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 20:38 GMT
#1374
On February 18 2013 05:37 Coagulation wrote:
what? whats the point of that. yeah its strange. Scum have come back and won from farther behind and I dont know who these "plenty of people looking very green are" you sure dont look green.

I'm practically confirmed town. Have you read the thread?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 20:40 GMT
#1377
But you said I don't look green when clearly I do.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 17 2013 20:46 GMT
#1382
Meanwhile in Coagtown, scum gets a gun dealer that can't shoot with the gun himself and has to pass it onto someone. Artanis, being very cunning, decides to hand it over to Syllogism to manipulate him into shooting his own scumbuddy whom happens to be a roleblocker as well.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 18 2013 08:47 GMT
#1487
With the effort WBG is putting into the game I feel obligated to at least not stay complacent. I'll put in some decent thought before voting. We could try to go for a flawless victory seeing as we have the means for it.
Sandroba, is claiming KPless SK a joke or was it genuine?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 18 2013 12:17 GMT
#1492
Zess: I've actually seen that in a game on here before, I think.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 18 2013 12:18 GMT
#1493
Not necessarily a SK but some 3rd partyish thing that's invulnerable at night could be possible.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 17:52:39
February 18 2013 17:50 GMT
#1674
On February 19 2013 01:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
4. If anyone would like to discuss the Zessionar out-of-game threats or whatever now, feel free to do so. I do not intend to do anything about this but I am willing to entertain opinions about what classifies acceptable behavior with regard to out-of-game comments. I personally don't think he did anything wrong, but clearly there are some people who disagree with me.

Yes. I found his comments completely out of line and would consider not playing with him again for that reason. Mafia is a game in which the boundary between playing to win and just having as much of a good time as possible blur quickly. I've hosted a MTG Mafia game myself where I believe Marv and Acrofales got into a massive argument as the result of a tunnel that lasted too long. I didn't actually step in until one of the players pointed it out by PM, after which I realized that it had indeed gone too far. It's a very emotional game to play.

Calling players retards for not seeing you're town without providing arguments is something that creates an extremely hostile atmosphere, especially when you do it as often as supersoft has done in this game. Not only that, but actually going as far as using out of game threats (saying he wouldn't play with them anymore if they voted for him) is completely out of proportion. It furthermore has the problem that you either only say it as town and therefore indicate your alignment, or you're using grave threats and calling people moronic for things that are outright false.

Perhaps it's become standard in TL Mafia games, I don't know as I haven't participated in many recently, but the tenacity and ferocity of some of these wordings really got to me, and it was hard to contain myself not to just tunnel him for exactly that as I hate that kind of arrogant behaviour. It's really something you need to encounter before realizing how frustrating it can be to play with that, so I don't blame bugs for not taking action. I'm curious to hear the rest of you guys' thoughts on it.

Also, the lack of an apology, rather ignoring the issue and even calling it annoying ticked me off even further.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 18 2013 18:25 GMT
#1683
On February 19 2013 03:08 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 02:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 19 2013 01:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
4. If anyone would like to discuss the Zessionar out-of-game threats or whatever now, feel free to do so. I do not intend to do anything about this but I am willing to entertain opinions about what classifies acceptable behavior with regard to out-of-game comments. I personally don't think he did anything wrong, but clearly there are some people who disagree with me.

Yes. I found his comments completely out of line and would consider not playing with him again for that reason. Mafia is a game in which the boundary between playing to win and just having as much of a good time as possible blur quickly. I've hosted a MTG Mafia game myself where I believe Marv and Acrofales got into a massive argument as the result of a tunnel that lasted too long. I didn't actually step in until one of the players pointed it out by PM, after which I realized that it had indeed gone too far. It's a very emotional game to play.

Calling players retards for not seeing you're town without providing arguments is something that creates an extremely hostile atmosphere, especially when you do it as often as supersoft has done in this game. Not only that, but actually going as far as using out of game threats (saying he wouldn't play with them anymore if they voted for him) is completely out of proportion. It furthermore has the problem that you either only say it as town and therefore indicate your alignment, or you're using grave threats and calling people moronic for things that are outright false.

Perhaps it's become standard in TL Mafia games, I don't know as I haven't participated in many recently, but the tenacity and ferocity of some of these wordings really got to me, and it was hard to contain myself not to just tunnel him for exactly that as I hate that kind of arrogant behaviour. It's really something you need to encounter before realizing how frustrating it can be to play with that, so I don't blame bugs for not taking action. I'm curious to hear the rest of you guys' thoughts on it.

Also, the lack of an apology, rather ignoring the issue and even calling it annoying ticked me off even further.


Everyone plays a role in these games and I play my role to win. My threat of never playing with anyone who votes me again was oviously not meant to be taken seriously. Especially regarding the scumplayers on that list, since it's their job to kill me. And therefor I won't apologize for that.

And if you agressively demand a warning over and over in the thread it is annoying. You were the one who couldnt distinguish ingame from out of game.

Like I said, it's a grey area between playing to win and just enjoying yourself. I feel you've gone far too much into playing to win. At the end of the day, we all sign up because we enjoy playing, right? With the type of behaviour you showcased within the game you took away a large part of the enjoyment I had. Playing to win shouldn't be the end goal, playing to have fun should be. Winning is only part of that fun. That it was obvious that your threat wasn't serious isn't the case, as I wasn't aware of it and I'm sure I wasn't the only one, especially when you didn't revoke it when pushed regarding it.
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