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On February 16 2013 01:45 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 01:38 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 01:36 HiroPro wrote:On February 16 2013 01:34 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 01:31 HiroPro wrote:On February 16 2013 01:24 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 01:20 HiroPro wrote:On February 15 2013 14:06 Coagulation wrote:
that would make sense if you hadnt of made it a point to notify the thread you know who he is. w/e you either believe me or you don't. i don't understand at all what you or artanis think my motivation would be as mafia to even say that i recognized him if my intention was to hide information from town. I don't agree with marvel's case on hopeless. I'm not sure why he picked mario mafia to look at because hopeless played in LVIII and he had a very strange opening in that game with his going on about policy lynching in the beginning. His thing about super going after risk seems very similar to me. Also, I don't think he would be so insistent in badgering marv about making a case if he was mafia. I chose mario because it's a mini, unlike LVIII. I also disagree that he was particularly 'insistent'. Actually it's natural for either a town or a mafia player would want to know if i was making a case on him. Right but LVIII is more recent and the opening situation is much more similar to this game in my opinion. Do you not feel the same way? Like the beginning of Mario from what I see is just very casual in general. It seems natural that he would post in a more casual manner there. This: On January 03 2013 07:12 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 03 2013 07:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
So, anyone feel like policy lynching grush just for the lulz? He is going to troll the game 24/7 no matter what alignment he gets... I will have nothing to do with a policy lynch on any specific player. If a player warrants such treatment, they shouldn't be allowed to play in the first place. You may not like grush's playstyle, but I don't find it entirely devoid of reason or thinking. I am willing to go after lurkers, but that's about as far as I am concerned with policy. @wbg voters: dafuq? is quite different to this: On February 14 2013 08:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yeah so he didn't RNG shit. Scummy as fuck much? On January 03 2013 07:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
really kush? he calls you a troll so you ninja omgus lazer? right, both those quotes are disbelief, wtf moments. Here he is specifically calling it "scummy as shit", in LVIII he quite clearly did not. I don't know - I don't actually agree lol. Like maybe I'm just looking at the overall feel more rather than specific phrasing or such, but the general style he has just seems more similar.
The overall feel is as I described in my case. He's looser and more carefree as town, and more constructed as mafia.
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On February 16 2013 02:09 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 01:49 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 01:45 HiroPro wrote:On February 16 2013 01:38 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 01:36 HiroPro wrote:On February 16 2013 01:34 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 01:31 HiroPro wrote:On February 16 2013 01:24 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 01:20 HiroPro wrote:On February 15 2013 14:06 Coagulation wrote:
that would make sense if you hadnt of made it a point to notify the thread you know who he is. w/e you either believe me or you don't. i don't understand at all what you or artanis think my motivation would be as mafia to even say that i recognized him if my intention was to hide information from town. I don't agree with marvel's case on hopeless. I'm not sure why he picked mario mafia to look at because hopeless played in LVIII and he had a very strange opening in that game with his going on about policy lynching in the beginning. His thing about super going after risk seems very similar to me. Also, I don't think he would be so insistent in badgering marv about making a case if he was mafia. I chose mario because it's a mini, unlike LVIII. I also disagree that he was particularly 'insistent'. Actually it's natural for either a town or a mafia player would want to know if i was making a case on him. Right but LVIII is more recent and the opening situation is much more similar to this game in my opinion. Do you not feel the same way? Like the beginning of Mario from what I see is just very casual in general. It seems natural that he would post in a more casual manner there. This: On January 03 2013 07:12 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 03 2013 07:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
So, anyone feel like policy lynching grush just for the lulz? He is going to troll the game 24/7 no matter what alignment he gets... I will have nothing to do with a policy lynch on any specific player. If a player warrants such treatment, they shouldn't be allowed to play in the first place. You may not like grush's playstyle, but I don't find it entirely devoid of reason or thinking. I am willing to go after lurkers, but that's about as far as I am concerned with policy. @wbg voters: dafuq? is quite different to this: On February 14 2013 08:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yeah so he didn't RNG shit. Scummy as fuck much? On January 03 2013 07:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
really kush? he calls you a troll so you ninja omgus lazer? right, both those quotes are disbelief, wtf moments. Here he is specifically calling it "scummy as shit", in LVIII he quite clearly did not. I don't know - I don't actually agree lol. Like maybe I'm just looking at the overall feel more rather than specific phrasing or such, but the general style he has just seems more similar. The overall feel is as I described in my case. He's looser and more carefree as town, and more constructed as mafia. meh. maybe you are right. I don't know, I think I've wanted to lynch hopeless every game I've played with him and he always seems to be a big lynch/vig candidate in every game that I've seen him play, so maybe I'm just wary because of that.
ya. i mean, i'm not all guns blazing that he's mafia, but i think there's a pretty good chance of it. what you said here reminds me of austin's argument to me on Day 1 of LIX when I wanted to lynch prplhz - "i always find him scummy, he always seems to be a lynch target". Of course, but these guys roll mafia as well ^^
Talk to me about yamato, then. What about his questions did you find unnatural?
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On February 16 2013 02:22 Hopeless1der wrote:@Marv, my response to your case is quite succinct. I'll even quote you to support my need to "construct" my posts: Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 02:18 marvellosity wrote:On February 15 2013 02:12 Vivax wrote:
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I read your name in the bottom of my coffee cup bitch. On February 15 2013 02:15 Vivax wrote:
Oh shit does that mean I'm scum? Hey Vivax. Did you learn shit from LIX? I hope for the sake of my faith in my humanity, the answer is yes. Maybe try to play like you learnt something. My tolerance level this game for stupid shenannies will be markedly lower. A greater portion of the posts you quoted were in response or regarding Vivax in some way. Suppose my first instinct is to respond in a "fuck off and die in a fire" manner. Now suppose I am trying to curb that instinct, but still want to hold some type of reasonable discourse. The result is the posts you've taken issue with. Regarding the drop in pressure on Zess, don't worry that's coming back momentarily.
huh. this answer was unexpected and possibly reasonable. i'll have a look.
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your explanation is kinda believable actually. gonna wait to hear what you have to say about zess/your unvote of him/vote on yamato.
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I'd like sandroba's updated thoughts on Toad.
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While I'm waiting on Hopeless...
I'm not at all sure Vivax is town. He's not actually *pushing* anything. I know I told him that I'd pull him up on his crazy shit earlier, but all he's done is thrown down a joke vote on yamato, and kinda-but-not-really pushed Zessionar and fucked off. I don't like it.
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Your questions being ignored never stops you pushing your ideas and votes before.
Nice delurk, btw.
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On February 16 2013 03:04 Vivax wrote:
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
I think you might well be mafia 
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On February 16 2013 03:10 Zessionar wrote:
i want to lynch vivax, because he's the most annoying person in this game, everything he posts is either just wrong or exagerated. His reads are paranoid, he completely refuses to listen to logic and he's overall disturbing...
but sadly he plays like this as town, therefor we have to carry him around with us until we get shot.
If one thing is 100% sure in this game, it is the fact that scum won't do us the huge favour to kill him...
No, I completely disagree with you. Here's why. As town he pushes his reads. HARD. For good, or for bad. Usually for bad, but hey. Maybe he learnt not to be a madman after LIX, right? But still, he would push his lynch.
In this game he doesn't push his reads. His read is you. He comes in - makes a couple of posts about it, then leaves. He then responds within 5 minutes to me calling him out, even though there's been plenty of other stuff in the thread. He's not trying to get you lynched. If he was town, he would be trying to get you lynched. As mafia, he's happy to call you mafia, and then go away and let the rest of town argue about yamato/Hopeless/whoever
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On February 16 2013 03:12 Hopeless1der wrote:A brief interlude into meta, from Dessert Mini Mafia: Show nested quote +On January 13 2013 09:28 supersoft wrote:On January 13 2013 09:22 jaybrundage wrote:On January 13 2013 09:19 MrZentor wrote:
It wasn't even a smile... Question what would you call it :o Circle face? Surpised face I like a dafaq? face what you think Z XD Okay announcement: Don't talk about pointless SHIT!!!scum loves to talk about pointless stuff. Do when the game is over. Right now we're playing the game and we're not in some kind of off-topic thread!
FOCUS!!!Don't let this game end in a mess like the Kurumi game! Pointless shit, say for example: mccurrywurst?
Hi Hopeless. I like this bit a lot.
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On February 16 2013 03:23 Vivax wrote:
Marv, did I or didn't I write a case against Zess?
yup, then you fucked off.
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On February 16 2013 03:24 Zessionar wrote:
"It also lets Zessionar just sheep into the town's choices"
did i sheep anyone yet? you're the second retard who accuses me for setting up a situation where i will be able to sheep someone. However I haven't sheeped anyone yet. I never sheep my vote.
the rest is complete bullshit.
you're comparing games, that cannot be compared.
you're comparing earlygames that cannot at all be compared
and your case is shit, because i am town,
your case is shit because you have not one point where you really disagree with me
you cannot explain why my proposed plan/list was bad for the town at that point of time, when the thread basically was dead. You don't disagree with any point on my speedanalysis
you don't disagree on my plan to let the masons claim
you don't disagree with my support for syllos point on marv, you don't disagree with my stance towards toad.
you're basically just comparing the look of my posts, from two completely different games.
why don't you compare my scumgame to this game here?
why don't you answer why, as town, you told the rest of town very firmly not to talk about pointless shit, yet you happily indulged in it here?
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On February 16 2013 03:26 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 03:24 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 03:23 Vivax wrote:
Marv, did I or didn't I write a case against Zess? yup, then you fucked off. Comment on it then. Tell me why you're not interested in lynching Zess.
The question isn't why I want to lynch Zess, the question is why are you only asking me about it now after I called you out for it, and not before?
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supersoft, responses on the 2 below please
On February 16 2013 03:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 03:10 Zessionar wrote:
i want to lynch vivax, because he's the most annoying person in this game, everything he posts is either just wrong or exagerated. His reads are paranoid, he completely refuses to listen to logic and he's overall disturbing...
but sadly he plays like this as town, therefor we have to carry him around with us until we get shot.
If one thing is 100% sure in this game, it is the fact that scum won't do us the huge favour to kill him...
No, I completely disagree with you. Here's why. As town he pushes his reads. HARD. For good, or for bad. Usually for bad, but hey. Maybe he learnt not to be a madman after LIX, right? But still, he would push his lynch. In this game he doesn't push his reads. His read is you. He comes in - makes a couple of posts about it, then leaves. He then responds within 5 minutes to me calling him out, even though there's been plenty of other stuff in the thread. He's not trying to get you lynched. If he was town, he would be trying to get you lynched. As mafia, he's happy to call you mafia, and then go away and let the rest of town argue about yamato/Hopeless/whoever
On February 16 2013 03:25 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 03:24 Zessionar wrote:
"It also lets Zessionar just sheep into the town's choices"
did i sheep anyone yet? you're the second retard who accuses me for setting up a situation where i will be able to sheep someone. However I haven't sheeped anyone yet. I never sheep my vote.
the rest is complete bullshit.
you're comparing games, that cannot be compared.
you're comparing earlygames that cannot at all be compared
and your case is shit, because i am town,
your case is shit because you have not one point where you really disagree with me
you cannot explain why my proposed plan/list was bad for the town at that point of time, when the thread basically was dead. You don't disagree with any point on my speedanalysis
you don't disagree on my plan to let the masons claim
you don't disagree with my support for syllos point on marv, you don't disagree with my stance towards toad.
you're basically just comparing the look of my posts, from two completely different games.
why don't you compare my scumgame to this game here? why don't you answer why, as town, you told the rest of town very firmly not to talk about pointless shit, yet you happily indulged in it here?
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It was Bang Bang, and he was town. So I can retract that part of my question to him. I don't know why he's ignoring what I said on Vivax, though.
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On February 16 2013 03:42 Zessionar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 03:16 marvellosity wrote:On February 16 2013 03:12 Hopeless1der wrote:A brief interlude into meta, from Dessert Mini Mafia: On January 13 2013 09:28 supersoft wrote:On January 13 2013 09:22 jaybrundage wrote:On January 13 2013 09:19 MrZentor wrote:
It wasn't even a smile... Question what would you call it :o Circle face? Surpised face I like a dafaq? face what you think Z XD Okay announcement: Don't talk about pointless SHIT!!!scum loves to talk about pointless stuff. Do when the game is over. Right now we're playing the game and we're not in some kind of off-topic thread!
FOCUS!!!Don't let this game end in a mess like the Kurumi game! Pointless shit, say for example: mccurrywurst? Hi Hopeless. I like this bit a lot. and wtf is this marv? you were suspicious of this fellow like 3 pages ago. you made a huge case and you let him pass with this halfassed terrible case on me? yeah sure. you're scum marv. you are. FLOOD CONTROL!i dont remember the name of the game, but i think we were both town and i masoned you later on and we kept making a huge list but the game ended before we could finish it :D hey wbg, am i allowed to post with another account if the floodcontrol hits me?
if you would actually read my posts, it would be clear why my suspicion on him waned.
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On February 16 2013 03:43 layabout wrote:
hey why did marv give up on Hopeless1der?
On February 16 2013 02:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 02:22 Hopeless1der wrote:@Marv, my response to your case is quite succinct. I'll even quote you to support my need to "construct" my posts: On February 15 2013 02:18 marvellosity wrote:On February 15 2013 02:12 Vivax wrote:
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I read your name in the bottom of my coffee cup bitch. On February 15 2013 02:15 Vivax wrote:
Oh shit does that mean I'm scum? Hey Vivax. Did you learn shit from LIX? I hope for the sake of my faith in my humanity, the answer is yes. Maybe try to play like you learnt something. My tolerance level this game for stupid shenannies will be markedly lower. A greater portion of the posts you quoted were in response or regarding Vivax in some way. Suppose my first instinct is to respond in a "fuck off and die in a fire" manner. Now suppose I am trying to curb that instinct, but still want to hold some type of reasonable discourse. The result is the posts you've taken issue with. Regarding the drop in pressure on Zess, don't worry that's coming back momentarily. huh. this answer was unexpected and possibly reasonable. i'll have a look.
On February 16 2013 02:32 marvellosity wrote:
your explanation is kinda believable actually. gonna wait to hear what you have to say about zess/your unvote of him/vote on yamato.
then I liked his catch on supersoft talking about pointless stuff. Although it's shown not to be true when in relation to Toad, he can't really have been expected to know that.
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