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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 01:01 GMT
#1459
a weird all-in from who, toad?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 01:16 GMT
#1464
I agree that grush isn't lying here. As for the rest of it, I have no clue right now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 12:21 GMT
#1494
On February 18 2013 20:21 Zessionar wrote:
okay, I just handed in my paper, now I'll finally get some sleep and after that I will have a really close look at marv and EVERYONE else ;-)


Let me save you the trouble.

marv really looks like a townie because he has a very long filter, and is clearly interested and invested in what's going on with town. However, he voted weirdly, and he keeps soft-defending mafia, so he really looks like mafia.

Conclusion:
He is town because of his investment etc., despite the fact he keeps soft-defending mafia.
He is mafia, because he keeps soft-defending mafia and voting was dumb, and his whole play is an act.


Just choose one and be done with it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 12:52 GMT
#1498
On February 18 2013 21:49 Zessionar wrote:
hahaha, yes that's what I've already said but I hope to find some more townpoints :-(
you forgot toads move and your reaction and the scumroleblockers reaction :-/


I didn't forget, I called Toad a moron, and then I dumped my (bad) reads. What I said is what it comes down to anyways.

I didn't think risk was mafia because it seemed insane to me for mafia to complain about a mafia lynch.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 12:54 GMT
#1499
On February 18 2013 05:01 Mattchew wrote:
##unvote
##vote marvellosity


you appear to be voting for me.

care to explain?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 13:21 GMT
#1502
On February 18 2013 22:14 ObviousOne wrote:
##vote Hopeless1der
Hopeless or Coag for me. And Coag's just being Coag apparently.

Artanis disagreed with my read of Hopeless based on his town meta, but I'm just gonna agree to disagree for right now since he hasn't kept up that action.


what are you seeing townie in matt?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 13:24 GMT
#1504
syllo, if theoretically we flipped Matt and he was townie, how would that affect your read on Hopeless?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 13:32 GMT
#1507
On February 18 2013 22:28 syllogism wrote:
It's hard to say as that would also narrow the field of realistically possible mafia candidates and him ignoring mattchew is only a small aspect of his play that makes him a candidate. Doing such an evaluation before the flip seems like a waste of time though.


ok, I'll rephrase. why do you think matt is more likely mafia than hopeless?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 13:34 GMT
#1508
On February 18 2013 21:48 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 15:42 syllogism wrote:
Mattchew looks like a decent alternative. He has been trying to make a fuzz about insignificant things such as Vivax realizing that Zess is supersoft. Even today he kept his focus on Vivax. Looks like typical lazy mafia tunneling to me. His reasons for finding Grush mafia are also suspect

Too many trynabetroll accusations to guide the thread in voting


What does that even mean? Grush is guiding the thread?

##unvote
##vote Mattchew

It means that grush is not his normal troll star senses self... He's being more serious then his town meta normally is to me.
No I don't think he is guiding the town but I feel like he has somewhat tried to which I don't believe town grush would do



this is some of the most terrible meta analysis i've seen
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 13:50 GMT
#1513
On February 18 2013 22:36 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 22:32 marvellosity wrote:
On February 18 2013 22:28 syllogism wrote:
It's hard to say as that would also narrow the field of realistically possible mafia candidates and him ignoring mattchew is only a small aspect of his play that makes him a candidate. Doing such an evaluation before the flip seems like a waste of time though.


ok, I'll rephrase. why do you think matt is more likely mafia than hopeless?

He has less content, hopeless seems a bit more involved and I'm lazy; I haven't really put that much thought into weighing my options today as it seems like we can lynch all the possibilities and still win. How about you tell me why you apparently think hopeless1der is the better lynch today?


Well, I can't explain super-well, some of it is feeling. Like I don't know what agenda matt has been pushing. He called coag/OO town at a point they were potential mislynches, and at a time where mafia needs potential mislynches. In contrast, Hopeless manner of posting still feels a bit off to me, plus he clearly pushed agenda on Day 1 of trying to get Zess lynched with a serious case. And his involvement has totally dropped off since.

I'm not that confident in these feelings, because of what sandroba mentinoed about matt not mentioning yamato, about matt's strange list of who he would have lynched, and because of his unexplained sheep on to me. So probably because i have stronger feelings that hopeless is mafia, then it's actually matt :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 13:52 GMT
#1514
also suggesting syllo is scum seems a really dumb thing for a scum-matt to do
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 14:03 GMT
#1522
it should be at least somewhat obvious from my general manner of play that i'm coming from a townie perspective.

it just remains that i've basically been pushing mafia agenda all game anyway, so you might have to kill me for that, and that's fine.

if you think i'm scum from my general play, you have too much respect for my scumplay.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 14:04 GMT
#1523
or on the flipside, maybe you don't have enough respect for it I'd never let myself look awful over yamato. lol.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 14:15 GMT
#1525
On February 18 2013 23:01 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 22:56 Zessionar wrote:
On February 18 2013 22:55 sandroba wrote:
I need to know if any town RBed WeWinMafia. Since the likely checks were Matt/Coag/OO and the RB was framer seems a bit random and wasteful for mafia to have RBed him.


RB makes perfect sense in Marv is scum :-/

Yeah, but I'm having a hard time convincing myself of that =/


how do you feel about hopeless over matt?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 14:29 GMT
#1530
On February 18 2013 23:15 Zessionar wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397206&currentpage=42

marv. What did you think when you read Toads message?


not a lot. maybe he's vig, maybe he's not. maybe toad's being an ass.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 14:37 GMT
#1532
On February 18 2013 23:32 Zessionar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 23:29 marvellosity wrote:
On February 18 2013 23:15 Zessionar wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397206&currentpage=42

marv. What did you think when you read Toads message?


not a lot. maybe he's vig, maybe he's not. maybe toad's being an ass.


why didnt you comment it?


why bother?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 15:02 GMT
#1538
On February 18 2013 23:51 sandroba wrote:
things I find weird about toad:
-way less engaged than in the previous game, way less posts
-doesn't engage in convos with me/syllo at any point

-doesn't seem glad that we just murdered a scum
-wagon d1 never got traction despite yamato's wagon @ 5 votes
-no mention of him by any of the flipped scum
-me/syllo against zess wagon, yet flipped scum chose it instead of wwm
-focus on marv for most of the game with charts about late switch etc, but never mentions risk who did the same and had an atrocious filter
there is more, but that's it from the top of my head


These two are really important... dunno if you remember in LIX, but Toad was basically really desperate to be with the "in-crowd" of you/me/bugs. Here he doesn't seem to care at all that he's outside of the 'circle'.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 15:03 GMT
#1539
Like I said before, the only thing that stops me thinking toad is definitely mafia is his fake shot on me.

Why do that as mafia??
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 15:05 GMT
#1540
it would also mean that mafia witheld their roleblock and Toad claimed it on himself.

risk flipped framer/roleblocker, so maybe he could only do one action, and he framed someone? I dunno
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 18 2013 15:14 GMT
#1546
On February 19 2013 00:11 Zessionar wrote:
well if someone is the man for these things as scum it's toad. only his evil and paranoid scummind can forge such a wierd plan and execute it... but it still is unlikely... if toad were scum he'd be more active right now just because of the excitement.
towntoad loses interest in games pretty fast that are working out too well or too bad :-o


not true, at least not in LIX. We shat all over mafia and Toad was extremely active for the entire game
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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