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Hey guys. There is no color in the opening post. I am disturbed. | ||
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BioSC, you almost got top post. ALMOST. Next time maybe | ||
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VE: Plan is still in action What. I dont like secrets. Tell me more. | ||
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Gonna ignore that stupidass vote cause 1. If I dont mention it. Im crazy 2. If I care about it, Im scum. SO NON ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE POST RIGHT HERE. | ||
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Right. That Mayor. I approve. | ||
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Also, a football bat is useful. You can run around smacking people with it. And beating up scum. SCUM. | ||
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I am going to be open and transparent in my play. I will be as forthcoming as I can with my scumreads and thoughts at any point in the game. I expect that my actions and motives will speak louder than my words. Who doesnt say this? Like lol whats the point of writing this. As a counterarguement, I say we lynch the scummiest person available to us. Who cares who scum sent up? How do we lynch scum in a normal game? Because they are scummy right? | ||
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I dont have a tendency/history of looking like scum, IT WAS 1 game. A very bad game. Well yes, if all 3 candidates are town reads, which I think could be likely especially in the first few days, then we lynch the least useful so far. I dont see why we have to speculate on who scum would send up.. Just lynch the scummiest person. EASY. | ||
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BLABLABLA lets lynch the scummiest person. Seriously thats all you are saying. A method that I raised to reduce the WIFOM potential of the nomination mechanic, is to overall increase town quality of play to thus, Yeah, this also works in normal, non nomination games. All the things you are saying also applies to standerd games, which makes it fucking useless. I dont think this game is as simple as "lynch the scummiest person". It is. Ok if you disagree, then in 3 lines or less, say why. Also expound on how we should scumhunt and raise the quality of play | ||
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[b]##Vote: Mocsta If you want me to expound on what constitutes solid town play. It is to avoid the copying your play. You cant even be bothered to seriously help town. Just snipe at Oats for playing badly. I think you dont understand my meaning of the scummiest player. For me, its the player who is mostly likely gonna flip scum. I guess for you its a unsuspicious character who has some scummy play. Oh. | ||
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Oats, this game is obviously too much of a step up in difficulty for your current forum-mafia skill level. Just quit and let someone that knows how to play replace you. Shitting on people is not cool. And I dont know why a town player would do this, therefore you are scum. It makes ABSOLUTLY no sense that a town player would tell you 'UNINSTALL, LEAVE PLEASE YOU SUCK' | ||
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Well. So anyone other than Mocsta that want to butt in? I would appreciate it. :D | ||
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Explain how I am not promoting discussion. Also, this seems eerily familiar to your start in Newbie mafia XXXV where you were scum. I wonder why | ||
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On February 06 2013 13:40 Mocsta wrote: Why do you think there is high potential for the nomination candidates to be all town? The reason I think so is so we are forced to lynch a potentially strong player before they really 'hit' their stride. Also, it is better for Scum in the long run that there are useless and uninvested townies which will only become evident after the first few days. For example, Austin was pretty involved day 1 in LIX, however his activity dropped off tremendously. However, I think we should discuss this tomorrow and spend today scumhunting. Difficult to do with only me and you :/ I realise that the sentence could be misconstrued as I am assuming you are town. In fact, I think you are scum, but its early days, and premature burial is not a thing I am fond of. | ||
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The challenge that this game presents is that we cant wifom about nk's. There are no night kills to provide information on who mafia thinks is important to kill. I think that is more important than no Blue roles. I like how you just discredited yourself. heh. | ||
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Do you have any conclusions about the 'discussion' between me and Mocsta relating to our alignments/ | ||
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Tell me more about yourself, How many games have you played, which alignment do you like to play, are you scum or town? | ||
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I think that its odd that he just disappears but timezonewise, its not all that suspicious. What I do know about VE is that he likes playing scum, so yeah. | ||
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You know, the last person I saw that was so adamant about lynching lurkers was scum. I wonder what that makes you :| | ||
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BUT, since when do nightkills get rid of lurkers, And 80-90% of the games dont have a vig. Im interested, Why are lurkers such a big deal in this game VE? | ||
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What you are doing, is basically setup speculating and you should stop Mocsta. In this setup we're uniquely NOT able to clear out lurkers from the lynch pool (because there are no blues). I dont understand this. Lurkers are a problem in other games too, and mostly they cant get cleared either. I havent seen you do this in any other game so far VE, even though lurkers are also a problem there. | ||
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Dont talk about who scum will nominate. Scumhunt. Whatever anyone else wants to do, thats their problem. I cant force them to 'look' townie. | ||
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What do you propose to improve the quality of the town players? | ||
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Also, Phagga, do you have any thoughts about, VE lurker lynching Mocsta+Me 'argument' | ||
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That post is non-alignment indicative and it DOES not tell me whether you are town or not. Well done. Again I am going to be open and transparent in my play. I will be as forthcoming as I can with my scumreads and thoughts at any point in the game. I expect that my actions and motives will speak louder than my words. This is standard and par for the course for optimal play, which says that you either feel the need to 'tell' everyone that you will play townie-like or you think the rest of us are stupid. | ||
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On February 06 2013 16:53 Mocsta wrote: ================== My thoughts using your words. Because I am clearly not serious and over-exaggerating things in order to create humor. You however, were completely serious and therefore are scummy. You know whats a scumtell? Interpreting obvious jokes as being serious in order to 'pressure' the player. | ||
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And GUISE I FOUND SCUM. ITS MOCSTA. Tell me about Mocsta Palmer | ||
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On February 06 2013 17:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Why is that a scumtell? Can't Mocsta be town and think you're serious? Or couldn't he be town and, as you say, misinterpret what you're saying to gauge your reaction? Why does he have to be scum based on that? The reason its a scumtell is because, 1. It is clearly a joke, and everyone knows it. So therefore Mocsta cant possibly think I am serious 2. The reason why he as town would NOT try and contest that is because, he knows its a joke, therefore not alignment indicative, and thus is null, there is absolutely no reason to bring it up. Except to laugh at it. Heh. The way Mocsta attacked it was subtly saying that I am a hypocrite because I attacked him for doing the same thing, in his words. However, he didnt say that the sentence was scummy, condemn me for personally attacking another player, which is the 'normal' way to it. | ||
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As it stands, less then half the players have posted so far. Palmer. Hi. Is not acceptable for day 1. Please elaborate. | ||
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Nice way of determining your random lynch lol. What is modulo? The reason why this isnt gonna generate discussion is because, Either people say, yeah random lynching sounds like a good idea, or No it sounds stupid. Neither of those generate useful discussion so therefore the day 1 lynch will be purely a coinflip that leaves us with NOTHING day 2. Also im not scum so you are wrong. Any serious scum reads? | ||
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@ Mocsta What is your read on Oats right now ? Also Djo's idea | ||
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I didnt say the sentence was scummy, because I didnt think the sentence was scummy. Then why did you link to me saying that you were scummy? Wasnt the point to say that you thought the same thing? On February 06 2013 16:53 Mocsta wrote: ================== My thoughts using your words. OHOHO Guys, we have a contradiction here | ||
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You voted me, under the guise of the random lynch. Now you are telling people to discuss it, maybe you should start it off? | ||
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My thoughts using your words. This means that you basically 'wrote' the words by quoting. Which means you said that my 'rage post' was scummy. DO YOU DENY THAT? I found your posts and pointed out something you would have said to me; if i had made the joke to VE. No I didnt say that to you. Your posts about me leaving and getting a replacement were totally serious, and thus, my response was serious. My post was a joke, and you saying that it was scummy, is a scumtell. Anything else you dont understand? | ||
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Right, because meta in a newbie matters? Clearly it does, as Marv showed in LIX, where he meta'ed me very accurately. You were also in that game, dont tell me you forgot. I made the same argument too. | ||
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That game I called you out for killing atmosphere by being too aggressive, and then went into flame wars. This game, I am calling you out for thinking pig-headed and simple minded about this game. I am actually asking you to realise that it is imperitive that we open our eyes to the challenge that this game presents. This game: On February 06 2013 13:26 Mocsta wrote: You say I am not helping town? All you have done is try to fling shit at the only active participant thus far. Great help your doing. On February 06 2013 13:39 Mocsta wrote: You are trying to shit all over them, without providing additional avenues for discourse. There is nothing solid in your play so far. I would say that you are calling me agressive and saying that I am causing a bad atmosphere. Similar to in your scum game hmm? | ||
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I still think your treating this game as if its a newbie Explain how a newbie is treated differently? Also, so you are saying that your response to my joke, was a joke? Anyone else think that? Im quoting it again just in case. + Show Spoiler + On February 06 2013 16:53 Mocsta wrote: ================== My thoughts using your words. | ||
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Seriously you seem to be the only person with this problem. On February 06 2013 20:36 Mocsta wrote: Right, because meta in a newbie matters? (not important) + Show Spoiler + Either way, why dont you read the posts before Oats started cherry picking things, and contesting everything I said. + I already pointed out the differences between me n oats headbutting when I was scum, and the my alignment now. On February 06 2013 13:57 Mocsta wrote: Fair comment. we did butt heads (me scum, you town). But I think this exchange has gone differently.
Do you disagree with this statement? Your post above indicates that you do.. Djo is meta reading you and you say that his argument is invaild. Why? Considering with what happened in LIX | ||
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You said the random lynch was to choose the target right? And to start discussion around the target right? So what do you think about lynching me? | ||
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Excessive personal attacks, Trying to pass off stuff as a joke when it clearly isnt You say I am not helping town? All you have done is try to fling shit at the only active participant thus far. For day1 i have been trying to promote discussion. I would contest he was actively killing the discussion. He did the EXACT same thing in XXXV where he was scum thinking pig-headed and simple minded about this game. Uhuh. yeah personal attacks. I AM NOT SETUP SPECULATING. The fuckn setup is 9 town, 4 mafia. Looks like he is willfully misunderstanding what I am saying . I kept saying in the Obs QT when you do it, its scummy as fuck. No effort to explain why. And now he says he has a town read on me After saying stuff like On February 06 2013 13:26 Mocsta wrote: You say I am not helping town? All you have done is try to fling shit at the only active participant thus far. On February 06 2013 12:23 Mocsta wrote: You realise that your post structure is mimicking your play from Mafia LIX right? (You were scum) | ||
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Respond about Djo's random lynch idea and VE's LYNCH ALL LURKERS policy. Is it normal for VE? | ||
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You dont stop pressuring/attacking people when they tell you to stop, you stop pressuring them when it makes no sense and has no content anymore. I dont think I reached that limit yet. | ||
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For me. You are basically a vivax. I.e or going on my auto ignore list. Ignore means town read/certain scum read If I am a null read, you wanna learn about my alignment, so you can have your own opinion on it. If I am a slight town/slight scum you want to CONFIRM your read. | ||
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Cant you play like everyone else? :D Every game, you have to speculate on something, if not setup speculation, then random lynching. LOL | ||
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You're, not Your. whoever in this game is scum have no reason to join the thread This is EXACTLY what you said in XXXV. | ||
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Explain how his play here although its different from LIX, is still scummy. | ||
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##Vote: Sloosh | ||
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I also agree with Djo, Snarf is waffly as shit. I wanna see more from sloosh though | ||
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Sloosh, have you only played in LVIII Parellel Worlds Liquid City LVII Dwarf Fortress? | ||
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So jay, scumreads? 'he' is Sloosh by the way | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Snarfs Still, whenever you want to sloosh, start contributing | ||
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Vets cannot let their reputation carry the game for them, especially since there are no nightkills in this game so its not like he is gonna die day 1 if he is really good. This is a pure LURKER lynch. Mr CC has contributed more than him and he replaced like 12+ hours later. ##Unvote ##Vote: Palmer. | ||
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I think bad is more likely Sorry yamato | ||
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I would expect you to pick up on that as town, and intentionally misread him if you are scum. or you could be bad. | ||
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Its easy + Show Spoiler + ##Vote: Palmer | ||
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he didnt say anything about being busy, nothing is indicated in his tone that he is busy. He is just trolling. And I dont care how 'good' he is, this play shouldnt be encouraged. Talking about Palmer by the way. | ||
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Understand prp? What makes it worse is that he should know that lurking DOES NOT help town and thus, if he is town, he is playing against his wincon. | ||
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However, WHICH SCUMMY LURKER DO WE LYNCH? Im not down with prp lynch by the way, I dont think he is scum. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: JX | ||
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IMMINENT. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Snarfs | ||
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Why are we not lynching Palmer today, given that he has produced NOTHING of actual worth? | ||
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I feel that Snarf is most likely gonna flip red. CC, why should Palmer get a pass just cause he is good at town? I dont see any indication of it so far. Do you want to lynch based on reputation or scummyness CC? Since you said that his behaviour was scummy if it was from a 'new' person, why is it not scummy if it is from him? | ||
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##Vote: JieXian You ask why? Cause he sheeped onto Palmer. | ||
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Why am I scum? | ||
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On January 03 2013 09:01 marvellosity wrote: because if you think that killing wbg-town is a "win" situation, then you must be scum. So you must be trolling. So stop it. Anyway, I could explain a little more why Palmar could be scum. Palmar and I both play scum or town in a certain kind of way. When we're town we're usually active and trying to figure things out, and it's obvious we're interested. Or maybe Palmar looks totally uninterested, and that's usually when he's town as well. It's when Palmar (and me) *pretend* to be interested that we're more likely to be scum. There's no need to pretend as town and generally neither of us do. Everything Palmar posted so far took him absolutely no effort and he just made a bunch of posts in the thread to look like he's here and he cares and shit, although actually there's no evidence that this is the case. All of you are going "omg Palmar posting a lot, probably town", but if it's taken him a combined total of 5 minutes to make all his posts then this doesn't actually ring true. It's just a way of establishing some credit early because everyone thinks Palmar is just uninterested as scum. Anyway, Palmar could yet have just been coming into the thread having some "fun" or whatever, so we'll see what effort he wants to put into the game tomorrow. | ||
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I didnt read that before I wanted to lynch Palmar. How do you even know he's town? Everybody, regardless of role, just wants to not get lynched. He hops on the most popular bandwagon in order to not get lynched. Lynching a town Palmar is just a bi-product if he's scum. The scummy thing about his vote, is that he didnt vote the guy with the most votes for the longest, like Slark, who is scummy, he voted the for the lynch that was fast becoming a bandwagon. So it seems like he is trying to bandwagon Palmar out of this game. Which is scummy | ||
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(yes that was a joke for people who dont get it :/) | ||
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Cause the town motivation is to stop a mislynch. | ||
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Anyway yeah thought I would see Palmars old games, came across that gem, and since I respect marv very much, I decided that he wasnt saying bullshit and that is what Palmar would do if he rolled scum. Ok JX, other than my 'scummy' 180, is there anything else that makes you think I am scum? | ||
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Im confused prp, its not like I had it in my back pocket all this while. Also in Marvs filter in that game, he mentions Palmar like 15 times per page. hehe. | ||
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Ever think about that JX? | ||
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Yeah Palmar isnt scum. So now, I want to lynch JX. So Prp, who do you want to lynch? | ||
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my questions are interesting Thats what they all say. Before they put everyone to sleep. | ||
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Ok JX, are you bad or scum? | ||
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You need to vote, where is it gonna be? | ||
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And you still havent addressed how any of the 5 things you pointed out are scummy, its basically as summary of my filter. Well done. | ||
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When playing scum I did that too, sadly saying scum 10000 times to someone doesnt make him scum. Oh well, you live and learn | ||
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inb4 Palmar shows up and leads everyone into a lynch. | ||
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Explain why JX is town | ||
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If you think JX is town, why dont you defend him? | ||
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Have your read changed since your vote? Since VE isnt gonna get lynched today, Snarfs, are you gonna waste your vote? | ||
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I see you posting 2 games, 1 of which he is town and 1 of which is scum. I dont see how you linked the scum game to this game. All I did was to see the differences in those games. | ||
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Also, you tried to sheep Palmar in an effort to look good. Even though Palmar hasnt actually played the game, and you have, and you did exactly NOTHING with your thinking that JX is town | ||
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I dont want to explain my town reads. Sufficed to say, I will not be voting to lynch him in the near future | ||
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Give me concise reasons as to why VE is scum. | ||
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A few hours/posts before he leaves, he posts this On February 08 2013 03:31 prplhz wrote: want to lynch jaybrundage as I have already said a bunch of times but that's not a strong scum read (just the best I have) and it's not actually a lot that nobody else likes it. On February 08 2013 04:05 prplhz wrote: I still want to lynch jaybrundage. On February 08 2013 05:14 prplhz wrote: I read your read on jaybrundage but I'm not convinced. I still think he's a better lynch than JieXian. And then His vote On February 08 2013 08:51 prplhz wrote: Might fall asleep so: ##Vote VisceraEyes ??? | ||
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However, discussing scumreads is good. | ||
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Im saying the other guys were against discussing it So? Are you in favor/not in favour of discussing reads? | ||
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jay, who do you want to lynch? | ||
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So we can find scum. Why not talk about scumreads? Explain in your own words PLEASE. Thanks | ||
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Ok I think Mocsta and Palmar are 100% town so I suggest we lynch slOosh. Also, Can all the candidates make a statment as to why they should not be lynched? | ||
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Quick Summary, Palmar doesnt lurk as scum, he tries to look as townie as possible. | ||
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Do you care who is getting lynched today? | ||
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I looked at the posts leading up to his vote, and they all indicated a desire to lynch Jay, then he votes for VE. Dont you see something wrong there? | ||
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Who do you think is scum? | ||
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Current vote discussion is NOT happening cause the parties involved, Palmar and slOosh, arent doing anything | ||
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Prp, who do you want to lynch that is not one of the candidates? | ||
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Also, who do you want to lynch tmr Prp? | ||
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I'm leaning Palmar because I don't think he'll be able to conjure up any interest in the game now that we're several days in and he has hardly even read it and I don't want him to hang out and be an annoyance for the rest of the game. I don't know what he'll flip and I'm not interested, we'll find out soon enough. At least the other two guys appear still to be interested in this game. Prp says: I want to lynch Palmar cause I am irritated by him. What a shitty reason to vote for Palmar. Also, he still doesnt want to answer who he wants to lynch outside of the nomination people. | ||
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Also, Im sorry sloOsh, I dont really think you are scum, but I think Palmar is even less scummy. So, my vote is on you cause Mocsta has been actually playing the game. | ||
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On February 11 2013 09:33 prplhz wrote: I am really sure that yamato77 is town. The reason for that is his early town analysis on me. Scum don't want players everybody else think is town because they can't get rid of them since they don't have any night kills. You might think that it's a bad analysis or whatever, but it absolutely isn't, it's the best analysis I've read in this game so far. I don't think scum would make a case like that. To me, this post reads as him softclaiming town. He is like, scum dont want to call people town. I am calling someone town, therefore I am not scum. Also, he says that he wants to lynch Mr CC, and doesnt ask him any questions about anything. Prp has been reactive this whole game and not proactive. Reactive is a scumtell. | ||
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I can get with a Snarfs lynch, he did nothing during the nominations at all. Reads: Scum: Snarf Prp Nothing else really stands out at this time that I didnt already state. slOosh, are you gonna play the game or just slid back into lurking now that the pressure is off | ||
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Someone quick to jump to conclusions eh? | ||
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Your reasons for both of them are not cause they are scum, its cause they havent answered all the questions levied at them? Isnt that kinda of a shitty reason to focus on them? | ||
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No reason for me to 'discredit Prp'? Where did I 'discredit' him? Snarfs why are you not scum? Also, why is Prp not scum then Snarfs? | ||
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Also, respond to the second part. Why are both of them scummy? | ||
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Like lol k Mocsta. Im struggling to understand how not answering questions makes them your n1 scum read. | ||
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Anything you see in the votecount Jay? Some votes were really fast | ||
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Do you deny that votecounts are an easy way to look involved? Also, what do you see from the fast votes, slow votes so far? 1 of your scumreads have voted already, so what does that say about him? | ||
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Also, I explained why my activity dropped off a cliff already. I agree with all of VE's reads. So either I am bad and getting played by scum, or VE is bussing all his teammates, or VE is town. | ||
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Hell this post is just calling me out for something dumb. And then saying how much you love scum VE. VE has to bus one of his teammates at this point. I bet out of his three scum reads one might be scum. He's doing it so it isn't way to obvious who his scum partners are when he dies. If you want to say im scum you can go look at my games when im town and i legit straight up sheep palmar. Its my town meta bro. So your town meta is sucking at the game. Cool. So Jay, I am not sure what you mean by 'I can see the bussing going on already' Care to elaborate with examples? | ||
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When I was scum, I resorted to these tactics cause feigning anger is fun, and it looks good. :D Personal attacks are a scumtell. So Yamato is scum. Yamato, if you arent scum, better find one and convince us to vote for him | ||
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Now you are resorting to calling me bad. Wonderful. I know what I think, I want to know what you think. You avoided the 'easily' answered question. Why? WHO KNOWS??? | ||
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So Jay, I am not sure what you mean by 'I can see the bussing going on already' Care to elaborate with examples? Where is the bussing that you are seeing. Elaborate with examples on why that is a bus post. | ||
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Jay. you have got to chill. | ||
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Jay, just because 2 of your scumreads call each other scum, doesnt mean that they are bussing each other because NONE OF THE FLIPPED YET. There is an element of trickery in bussing your scummate because you want to be able to back off if you feel that it is scummy, and push him when you feel that it makes you look townier. Explain how VE calling Prp scum, is VE bussing Prp. | ||
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At this point, none of the people here are scum. So, what are we gonna do | ||
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Ok jay, since you also think that prp is scum, VOTE HIM WITH ME AND GET HIM LYNCHED!!!!! | ||
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Therefore, everyone arguing here is town and should stop being stupid, me included | ||
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Or are you deadset on VE being scum that you cant vote for anyone else? | ||
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not that I think that Snarfs is town. | ||
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He just made a case, but concluded that he rather lynch Snarfs. Voting the same person as your scumread doesnt mean much. Ever heard of busses? | ||
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Snarfs Prp not so scummy but still pretty scummy. slOosh phagga Djo | ||
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On February 13 2013 08:08 phagga wrote: I can't say, the VE lynch feels wrong. Snarfs has gone for too long and his actions don't make sense from a townie point of view. VE seems sincere in his last posts after my case (not the ones he's capslocking), but his scum play can be pretty good too I think? Fuck, I don't know what I should do. I need a break. be back in 10. Yeah, looks like the typicial scum 180 in order to get on a scum lynch. On February 13 2013 08:03 slOosh wrote: Yes, because town is in such an awesome position that we are choosing between two scum candidates, and scum aren't doing anything about it. By virtue of phagga and prplhz, ##Vote: Snarfs So you think that Prp is scum slOosh? And what is your read on phagga | ||
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Dont be retarded now please. Dont play like your day 1 in LIX. Or just claim scum. That works | ||
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So Phagga, who is scum? | ||
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Do you not have 1 read on who is scum? | ||
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VE wasnt really gaining much traction, it was about equal at the moment and you were pushing Snarfs lynch so hard. What really bugs me is the total amount of self-deprecation and buddying that happens after the lynch. + Show Spoiler + On February 13 2013 09:17 slOosh wrote: Ok, just finished a full reread. VE, I apologize to you first. I was so immersed in my phagga case and was so disturbed that you totally dismissed it. You are correct in that you have been on Snarfs & prplhz from the beginning. I admit it - I can't read, which led to my misinterpretation of you and then vice versa the cycle. (similar thing happened in ... that WBG game where we nailed scum 3 days in a row ... not that it's relevant but whatever). Mr. Cheesecake, you are a boss. I am wrong and you are right and I'm sheeping you all game because I am not as good as I thought I was. I rescind my town read on jay and my scum read on Oats. Too good. MVP right here. On February 13 2013 09:27 slOosh wrote: Eh ... I guess I still have a lot of confirmation bias to deal with. Phagga smelt like scum and I didn't like that you waived it, but that's probably because I didn't address your Snarfs case first (I guess I missed it or thought Snarfs was right at the time or something). Also apologies to Oats. You are not daft, I just can't see scum that well. Ahh ... what a game to go down into the annals of TL Mafia~ Yea ... and not to bias you or anything but I really dig Mr. Cheesecakes' scum team. You can see how they interact with each other. Not that it's valid until you get some flips going, but at this point I've invested enough time into the game for it to click in my head. Oh, and I also could be wrong, so ... yea. Rereading is great! On February 13 2013 09:38 slOosh wrote: Oh, yea I suppose. It would be very foolish and humiliating to start celebrations and then end up losing because of arrogance. Excited to do this with you guys. I guess I'll do some homework now and come back at the deadline. | ||
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At least we can use the 24 hours productively. I dont think we should discuss who scum is gonna put up though. Also DEBEARS, you havent posted anything since your opening post. | ||
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Mocsta as you said earlier, Talk to CC Make a case Or Fuck off. | ||
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1. The scum team decided to bus Snarfs cause he was useless, they choose CC to push the lynch who wasnt all that townie. Then they picked him for nominations cause they know that no one would lynch him. OR 2. Mr. CC is almost 100% townie in everyones eyes, so they put him up to wifom us. | ||
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Mocsta, if nothing changes, I am lynching you. So, luck of the draw I guess | ||
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Its also your potential activity, and even if you had a 30 page filter, I rather have town CC alive than you. | ||
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Also I dont see how this is very useful :/ Your reads will probably change by page 74.. | ||
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What is your point Mocsta? | ||
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Did you have a strong town read on CC before the Snarfs lynch? right now Mocsta, you are posting irrelevent questions in my opinion. So explain. | ||
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Jay Im not sure about the last one :/ | ||
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Do you have any other scum reads? Can you try and convince me? | ||
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READ MY POSTS WHERE I NAME CC AND OATS AS MAFIA From your later posts, I assume this is no longer the case. Who are your other scum reads besides Mocsta? | ||
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who is scum? Since you think that everyone up for lynch today is town? | ||
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So I instead choose to focus on someone like phagga, on whom no one has commented on. He says, I am so helpful to town guys. This rubs me as scummy because town doesnt care about how well they are playing, just care about finding and lynching scum. Let's be clear with our language. I never called Phagga scum. Just because I'm interested in a person doesn't mean I think they are scum. Additionally, be clear with your language. I don't mind you saying "I want to see more", but don't say "start contributing" as if I haven't done anything. Cause that's total b.s. He is really concerned about people misinterpreting his words, in other words, It means that he wants to look really townie. Only scum care about looking townie. I have almost no doubt I'll be up for nomination tomorrow so I'm going to sit on my reads until dawn. Because I'm definite that scum will always put 3 townies up - they won't bother risking putting one of their own into the group unless it is certain that someone else will get lynched. And right now, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen. I assume I'll get put up because I tend to get shot N1 and I guess it's just ingrained into me that scum want me gone soon and fast. They way he is so sure that he will be picked d2 as one of the nomination candidates is really odd. Especially since he justifies it as 'I always die n1, so scum want me gone soon and fast' when if he plays good enough to get shot n1, he is never gonna get lynch d2, no matter who is up with him. If you familiarize yourself with his meta (nicely displayed in his profile and devoid of any scum games), it becomes clearer that he is new scum whose play pales to his town play. - in this game phagga writes timidly, fluffily and without conclusions - town phagga is capable of decent analysis, or at least confidence and clarity in his posts And a quick summary which basically states the description of a town and a scum. No links where phagga is doing the thing he says. This at best is lazy, and at worst is slOosh trying to mislead us with a post that looks good with no substance. [QUOTE]Guys, there's nothing to speculate, either now or at morning. I've already outlined the optimal scum strategy and how I propose we counter it.[QUOTE] slOosh says, 'Shut up, I have described the situation so I can explain why I have been chosen tomorrow. Now, dont talk so scum has an advantage due to the lack of information town has.' He posts the phagga case and just keeps asking people to read and opinions. This is to see if he should push the phagga lynch tomorrow. [QUOTE]Hey Palmar, I think we need to seriously discuss VE today, because I'm seeing some clear mafia agenda here, and little blips elsewhere.[/QUOTE] He says this, but never fully explains why VE is scum, just snipes at him and basically asks Palmar to make his case for him. [QUOTE]Oats, get off Jay. Seriously. Vote counts are extremely helpful and it's not like it's the only thing that Jay contributed.[/QUOTE] Random defense of Jay for basically slight pressure. Scum want to defend someone so that they can buddy them subtly by 'helping' them. [QUOTE] VE, I apologize to you first. I was so immersed in my phagga case and was so disturbed that you totally dismissed it. You are correct in that you have been on Snarfs & prplhz from the beginning. I admit it - I can't read, which led to my misinterpretation of you and then vice versa the cycle. (similar thing happened in ... that WBG game where we nailed scum 3 days in a row ... not that it's relevant but whatever). Mr. Cheesecake, you are a boss. I am wrong and you are right and I'm sheeping you all game because I am not as good as I thought I was. I rescind my town read on jay and my scum read on Oats. Too good. MVP right here. [/QUOTE] Really weird post where he says, 'I am bad and you guys are totally better at the game as me' Town wouldnt want to say that because no one will take his reads seriously anymore. Scum would because they seem apologetic and cooperative. So much buddying of CC here. [QUOTE]Eh ... I guess I still have a lot of confirmation bias to deal with. Phagga smelt like scum and I didn't like that you waived it, but that's probably because I didn't address your Snarfs case first (I guess I missed it or thought Snarfs was right at the time or something). Also apologies to Oats. You are not daft, I just can't see scum that well. Ahh ... what a game to go down into the annals of TL Mafia~ [/QUOTE] Keeps going with the self-depreciating attitude, and tries to buddy me too. [QUOTE]Yea ... and not to bias you or anything but I really dig Mr. Cheesecakes' scum team. You can see how they interact with each other. Not that it's valid until you get some flips going, but at this point I've invested enough time into the game for it to click in my head. Oh, and I also could be wrong, so ... yea. Rereading is great! [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Oh, yea I suppose. It would be very foolish and humiliating to start celebrations and then end up losing because of arrogance. Excited to do this with you guys. I guess I'll do some homework now and come back at the deadline. [/QUOTE] Again, 2 really cooperative and 'helpful' posts. And again self-depreciating [QUOTE]The best piece of information from this is understanding how D3 played out and people should check that out. [/QUOTE] At this point, I would assume that slOosh has really strong reads. [QUOTE]prplhz is the safest / best lynch for next cycle: you can read his filter and look at his interactions with Snarfs and VE, as well as the total apathy he had concerning the D3 lynch. [/QUOTE] And a totally lazy case which he does NOT back up at all with anything, and in fact Pushes phagga as an association case. I saw scum doing this too. | ||
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On February 14 2013 19:34 Oatsmaster wrote: I think slOosh is scum because He says, I am so helpful to town guys. This rubs me as scummy because town doesnt care about how well they are playing, just care about finding and lynching scum. He is really concerned about people misinterpreting his words, in other words, It means that he wants to look really townie. Only scum care about looking townie. They way he is so sure that he will be picked d2 as one of the nomination candidates is really odd. Especially since he justifies it as 'I always die n1, so scum want me gone soon and fast' when if he plays good enough to get shot n1, he is never gonna get lynch d2, no matter who is up with him. And a quick summary which basically states the description of a town and a scum. No links where phagga is doing the thing he says. This at best is lazy, and at worst is slOosh trying to mislead us with a post that looks good with no substance. slOosh says, 'Shut up, I have described the situation so I can explain why I have been chosen tomorrow. Now, dont talk so scum has an advantage due to the lack of information town has.' He posts the phagga case and just keeps asking people to read and opinions. This is to see if he should push the phagga lynch tomorrow. He says this, but never fully explains why VE is scum, just snipes at him and basically asks Palmar to make his case for him. Random defense of Jay for basically slight pressure. Scum want to defend someone so that they can buddy them subtly by 'helping' them. Really weird post where he says, 'I am bad and you guys are totally better at the game as me' Town wouldnt want to say that because no one will take his reads seriously anymore. Scum would because they seem apologetic and cooperative. So much buddying of CC here. Keeps going with the self-depreciating attitude, and tries to buddy me too. Again, 2 really cooperative and 'helpful' posts. And again self-depreciating At this point, I would assume that slOosh has really strong reads. And a totally lazy case which he does NOT back up at all with anything, and in fact Pushes phagga as an association case. I saw scum doing this too. Sorry didnt check :/ Reformatted. | ||
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I agree with phagga at this point. So THEREFORE. We lynch slOosh. No one is responding to my case. | ||
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Im not saying that you shouldnt look like a townie. Its just that no one SAYS that they want to appear as town. It just happens if you play a certain way. Telling people that you am town, even subtly, is not the way that you look like town. | ||
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DEBEARS. why are you so slow? | ||
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I am inclined to think that CC is town.. So confused now | ||
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Lets just sheep Palmar :D On February 10 2013 21:57 Palmar wrote: Anyway, I think yamato, prplhz, snarfs, phagga, visceraeyes and cheesecake should be in the initial round of scum. I guess VE should not be strongly considered in this group unless I'm wrong about prplhz, but who knows. I'm fairly certain 2-4 of those players are scum. This leaves the group of me, mochsta, JX, oat, jay, djodref and sloosh as most likely 5-7 townies. jay and djodref are the ones I like the least. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mr CheeseCake | ||
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Ok By virtue of playing badly. And cause I really hope he flips scum. ##Unvote: ##Vote: slOosh | ||
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You are one of the biggest offenders of the LURKZONE What do you think about my slOosh case, slOosh's phagga case, and phagga's response to my case on slOosh? | ||
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Suddenly, when snarfs is under heavy pressure, jay sees it fitting to vote yamato, who he made a big case on, and then unvote yamato for VE, whom he never made a case on. Sounds townie to me actually, BECAUSE as scum, I was really worried about stuff like that. So I didnt do that. As Town, who cares who you vote if you really think that the guy is scum? | ||
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Do you have a meta read on Jay? Or just generally town play? Also, you were in Dessert? Where he bussed all game long hard and fast? I think :/ Still think he is town. | ||
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Logical, persuasive reasoning, isnt what Jay is known for. There is a reason he gets mislynched often Also, VE posts a post and nopes the fuck out? WHERE DID YOU GO VE? | ||
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Look, I assume he thought about it and was like, HEY WAIT PALMAR IS PROBABLY TOWN AND WE ARE MISLYNCHING HIM. NOOOO SEE ALL OF YOU SUCK AND ARE PROBABLY SCUM CAUSE YOU JUST MISLYNCHED BEST TOWNIE IN TL MAFIA.!!!! ! | ||
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Day 1- Votes JX Day 2- Wants to lynch second best townie(Possibly) in the game Day 3- switches votes around until lands on wagon Day 4- Wants to lynch currently (Possibly) best townie in the game So am I scummy? | ||
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VE you have my full attention to whatever you want my thoughts on. My activity drops on weekends but with time I have we can work on really getting fleshed out reads between us and CC for the future lynches, cause at least 2 can stick around till endgame (due to nomination system). Why are you assuming things again? Are you absolutely certain that VE and CC are town? Also, this seems like a really buddy post. WHY DO YOU KEEP DOING IT SLOOSH. Ok conspiracy theory. Phagga, CC, Sloosh are scum CC pushes Snarfs incredibly hard cause bus and town cred. Sloosh pretends to oppose it then 180s hard and buddys EVERYONE. Phagga is told by team to be the 'decideding vote'. So NOW THE PLAN IS TO MISLYNCH A LURKY PRP. If not, I still think phagga is scum. ##Unvote ##Vote: Phagga | ||
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explain how VE is town given the events of yesterday? | ||
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Me and Prp were the lynches. GUESS WHAT? WE WERE BOTH SCUM!!! OH NO YOUR ASSOCIATION TOWN READ IS SHIT. :O What do you mean by I am unreadable and have done insanely stupid things? Explain please :D | ||
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Answer the questions. Also I am just helping you rethink your fallacious reasoning on your town read. | ||
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Anyway, answer the OTHER QUESTION. I have a null read on VE and slOosh. The thing is, they should be doing so much more than they are currently doing. They have no fear of nightkills so WHY arent they being ultra mega useful to town? | ||
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So far, you are really passive. Like compared to lets say Marv and Toad in LIX. Crazy stuff. Here, both you and VE are pretty useless... | ||
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BUT Prp was basically absent for the whole lynch yesterday.. | ||
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Regarding today's lynch: I've got like 6 hours until lynch right? I'm going to read some filters and decide who I like most for lynch. Right now it seems like prplhz and jayb are the candidates being discussed the most, so that's where I'm starting. This is so scummy its unbelievable.. Are you saying that after 4 days, you have ABSOLUTELY no scum reads? Really? | ||
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Right now it seems like prplhz and jayb are the candidates being discussed the most, so that's where I'm starting. This reads like you had no read on them before. | ||
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His day 1 was alright, but it dropped off dramatically from there. Now its kinda like snarfs, where the more he got pressured, the less content he posts. Like LIX too. | ||
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Ok anyway. Who is scum, slOosh/VE? Now that Prp flipped town | ||
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The last few days were pretty bad in terms of activity. If we want to win this, we need to start discussing more!!!! I dont think that we are out of this game by a long shot. Waiting for Nominations, before expounding on stuff. | ||
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At this point of time, I dont think anyone in that list is scum. So people who got nominated, please state scumreads. THANKS :D | ||
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Its 10 pm EST AND NOBODY IS HERE. The newbie game is more active than this game. Nominees, if you are town, please help us win the game. | ||
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Jay, do you have an actual reason as to why Yamato or CC are scum, other than, OH I THINK SCUM WOULD PLAY THIS WAY. | ||
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Why are you trying to solve the game by using setup speculation instead of scumhunting. Why are you doing all these non-alignment indicative things? You appear to be so lazy and that is what scum would do cause they cant actually make a case. | ||
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My town read on sloosh is based off meta. He isnt a very confident mafia player, and I dont think he would put himself in the spotlight on that day 1. It was also not all that necessary. BUT. The snarfs vote and aftermath strike me as scummy. I dont think yamato is scum. Im null on CC currently. | ||
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Why Phagga is town He seems intent on finding scum, Especially this post On February 08 2013 01:29 phagga wrote: tl;dr you think this is his town meta, right? What do you think is scummy about prplhz? Can you reference the two games you are talking about? These are pretty good questions and I dont think they are from the same alignment. On February 08 2013 02:34 phagga wrote: At everyone voting Palmar so far, go have a look at Death note Mafia (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625). Palmar was trolly/lurkish D1 and was misslynched D1 with the exact same arguments as this game. I know He could be scum, but I feel that lynch is much more volatile than JX, of who I feel sure he will flip scum. Also, as scum, he could try and push the Palmar mislynch, VE is behind it too and me at this point I think, or I just switched off. I dont see why he would do this as scum basically. But as town, you would want to prevent a good player mislynch especially when you think that player is town. On February 11 2013 06:43 phagga wrote: What is the purpose of this post, Yamato? Let me answer that for you: You want to distance yourself from the guy that is being perceived as scum by several townie players. But why do you have to do that? Because you're scum. If you were town, you wouldn't care enough about the fact that you softdefended me D1 to post about it. I asked you for your reads, and this is your response? I can see no reason why you should not give your reads out now, since you are allegedly finished analysing them and have "become more confident in them". That is unless you are scum. Also, I asked you why you think I'm scum, would you please answer that? Who are your scum reads and why? I really like this post by phagga, it attacks yamato, and reinforces his earlier read. It doesnt look speculative like scum would just try to poke and prod, or sit on the scum read. His reads also change and I like that. Because as scum, you are afraid of changing your mind but as town, who cares. On February 15 2013 18:52 phagga wrote: Guys, I got an even better idea, Let's actually read Palmars post before we blindly sheep him :D I like how he took the effort to find the post instead of discrediting me or just sheeping along. IMO, this is the biggest towntell in his filter :D Overall, I think that phagga is town. CC, saying that jay is scum JUST cause you cant find scumbuddies is INCREDIBLY WRONG. You have no content saying that he isnt scum just, HERP DERP he doesnt look linked to anyone. Also the rest of your scum reads are cause they gave Phagga town reads. Phagga HASENT EVEN FLIPPED YET. | ||
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Top 2 scum reads. And quick summary on why they are scum If you dont do it, its a scum tell. For me Jay: Scum. He doesnt care who is scum, his sheeping off Palmar to make a horrible case on yamato which doesnt say why he is scum at all. Then he doesnt care to follow up at all. he seems too proud that his town meta is sheeping people and he is self deprecating. Djo/Debears Scum Djo did the really really bad RNG idea for lynching and thats pretty much ALL his contribution before he replaced. Debears also seems to not really be involved in the game, like he has no convictions in his reads. | ||
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The lynchpin seems to be that he is pushing prp over snarfs. The problem with that is EVERYBODY wanted to lynch Prp after day 2. It seems very subjective.... Also half the stuff you are saying isnt really a scumtell, and you arent saying that its a scumtell. So its useless and just makes your 'case' confusing. I think we should lynch slOosh to be safe today. I have stronger townreads on CC and yamato, still null on slOosh. So Yamato, Who are your strongest 2 scumreads? | ||
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Walk it through for me. | ||
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He has been pretty consistent with that. | ||
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I see yamato's point now. VE any response? | ||
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Sloosh. Make your own reason and case as to why those 2 dudes are scum and Jay is town. | ||
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And you comment on my town tell. Also I dont think the voteswitch is particularly scummy in its own right, I could imagine myself thinking like what if Im wrong, and snarfs is scum, low activity and all that jazz. What do you think about his explaination for it? Jay, why the fuck is Djo/debears and VE scum. | ||
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OK Real quick 2 scum reads 2-3 line reasoning. OGOOGOGOGO | ||
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Real quick 2 scum reads 2-3 line reasoning. GOGOGO | ||
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Top 2 scumreads 2-3 lines. GOGOGOGO | ||
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I strongly believe that CC and Yamato are town. And I dont think that about slOosh at all. At this point, looking at this game, I dont think that his reputation stands up. Which makes me think he is scum. On the other hand, he hasnt really done all the scummy stuff. | ||
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1) You are using the play of a player who trolled with a RnG lynch, then afked after being worthless, when his scum meta is very active and invovled (Djo that is), as a scumread on me So his town meta is not active and involved? Meh, Im finding it difficult to find scum. Grr.. Ok Today I want to lynch slOosh. Tomorrow, I want to lynch Jay (In game days) After that, I will relook my reads in view of the flips. | ||
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I would lynch him before CC/Yamato/Phagga/Debears Actually I dont think you are scum now, I just got that feeling from reading through your filter. Apparently it is wrong. ##Vote: slOosh | ||
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There are people who look townier than you, and then there is you. The more I read filters, the more I think people are town. At this point of time, I am only confident that jay is scum. I dont think that the unlikelyness of the day 3 lynchees being both scum helps you look townie. It is not indicative of alignment at all. You have pushed nothing all game, save lurker lynches. Arent we past that now? You dont seem in danger of getting lynched in the next 36 hours, so you better start doing something. | ||
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I hope you seriously think about a slOosh lynch, I would like to see him dead because he is the least townie out of all the people up for nomination today. Its not day 1, we dont have to keep sloosh alive cause vet=big plays. | ||
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##Vote VE | ||
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They only need 1 mislynch to win, and you are the likely target. I want to see what VE says about his 180 on his read of yamato though | ||
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We need to find 1 scum within the next 48 hours. That is all. | ||
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I did this in LIX too. | ||
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Then, unfortuately, VE turns out to be alongside Snarfs as the day 3 lynchees. | ||
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So you are saying scum planned on snarfs, who had NO THREAD PRESENCE OR TOWN CRED, to be lynched after VE, Did you not read LIX? I did that to Gonzaw, gonzaw bussed me back, ended up being lynched before me, and I got town cred. Not much, but it was still a reason for people to think that I was town. Sometimes there is no 'plan' because it looks too organized/scum is not very organized. | ||
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Whatever, VE should have been nominated if he was town, plain and simple. There's no good reason town VE has yet to be nominated. This WIFOM and should never be mentioned as a reason as to why VE is scum. | ||
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What if. We are all town. :o | ||
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DEBEARS STOP FUCKING IGNORING ME I RESPONDED TO YOUR CASES YOU HAVEN'T POSTED ANYTHING IN RESPONSE. AS TOWN YOU WOULD TRY TO SEE MY REASONING AND RESPOND IN KIND. BUT INSTEAD YOU IGNORE ME AND INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FIND OUT MY ALIGNMENT YOU SCREAM SCUM. He went to sleep. Yamato, LINK THE POSTS in the games that you think are relevant. And show how its different | ||
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I managed to correctly identify prplhz as town early on in the game by similar heuristics, You dont get to claim that your method of reading people is good because YOU mislynched Prp. | ||
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Go read the damn games yourself, Oats. I can't possibly hope to encapsulate the broad-strokes analysis of Jay's filters in just a few posts. Yamato says: I am too lazy to do it properly and instead, will use long words in an attempt to confuse you. Lol. Jay, your filter is pretty scummy, but the stuff debears says is scummy actually isnt scummy. At this point, I just wanna lynch VE. | ||
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At this point, the only thing that could get votes off you is finding someone scummier than you | ||
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Ok everyone read VE's dying thoughts and conclude if he is scum or town. CC is getting scummier to me because it seems like he DOESNT CARE about this lynch. | ||
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Scum wants it yes, but its not the end of the world if we lynch scum It is the end of the world if we lynch town. | ||
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I dont know if VE is scum or not. I dont know if CC is scum or not. ##Unvote ##Vote: phagga | ||
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Namely Yamato for one. | ||
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I fail to see town reasoning behind not revealing your town and scum reads. I stated it once and ill state it again we need transparency as town why? | ||
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Vote: debears how do you handle the pressure? | ||
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Answer the question. I fail to see town reasoning behind not revealing your town and scum reads. I stated it once and ill state it again we need transparency as town Why do we need transparency as town AT this point? | ||
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It's fucking lylo, and I'm the only one who's made a case today. hehe its cute that you think that making a case means that you are town. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: jaybrundage Also im not convinced by your reasoning Jay and I dont think you are either | ||
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Me and CC and yamato are town. WHO IS THE LAST ONE. | ||
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Like honestly me Yamato and CC all believe in about the same scum team. Should be obvious that we all town Read this sentence again Jay. And tell me how having the same reads = town, especially when the 'scum' team was proposed like 2 days ago. Scummiest sentence ever, trying to gain town cred by allying yourself to my 2 town reads. | ||
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I posted a post earlier with the towntells in Phagga's filter. And I dont think those are 'easy' to fake, or that scum would even fake those. | ||
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How about we RNG this, and lynch whoever comes up out of jay, debears, ve | ||
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Then dont lynch Phagga then. Lynch Debears or Ve. I actually have a wierd feeling about Phagga as well. he has some really scummy things about him. but also he has some pretty genuine posts. So who is the last scum then, if you are not convinced that Phagga is scum | ||
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##Vote: VE Lol, if Debears is scum and VE town, why did he hard defend VE, instead of just going LOLOL EASY WIN. | ||
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VE, what happened to the screaming and shouting? | ||
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now, there is nothing. Debears also doesnt seem to care. | ||
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GUYS WHY DID YOU CONCEDE? ANYWAY GG On February 23 2013 11:00 BioSC wrote: DEADLINE NOW. Everyone saw it bio :D | ||
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But the other reason is cool too. GG Yamato, can you be less of a dick next time? Please? | ||
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I was so confused after the snarfs lynch. But yeah yamato carried late game :D I got way too lazy and just stopped really doing anything important. I think the scum team got lazy too and thats how yamato managed to convince the rest of the town players. | ||
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I think I understand this better than your VE case but still, like I feel that there is no flow. Not that the case is bad or anything, I just cant follow it. :/ | ||
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I think I was too stuck on slOosh being scum, and that twisted my reads somewhat. I be dumb | ||
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I think it would work better with a smaller game, ALTHOUGH scum did pretty well in this game I must say. Possibly some of the cycles were too long, activity died towards the middle and that was fairly depressing for me as a town player. | ||
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Yeah VE, one of the reasons I thought you were scum cause you did nothing during the game when no nightkills :D I think you couldve possibly caused more wifom about the nominations. I think the bus was well executed, without it, you guys wouldve not gotten to lylo :D. CC had massive town cred and again didnt really do much during the phase he got nominated in when he possibly couldve pushed a mislynch on to phagga and jay the next cycle. | ||
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