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On February 08 2013 11:33 Snarfs wrote: a) Half-hearted attempt at lynching Palmar b) Dissonant vote on prplhz while still wanting to kill Palmar c) Half-hearted switch to JieXian d) Wishy-washy statements about other players fuckn sniped | ||
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Jay, you are pinging the shit out of my scum-dar. In a nutshell your filter contains - No useful contributions, other than you following a curiosity on RNG (which was never taking off) - You were a proponent of bringing back into the limelight my comments to Oats, when i already gave my 2cents. - You admit to having no contributions to add to town (as your explanation on the lack of posts) - You was the first people to lead the JX lynch; before anything was concrete And to top it off - Your last post reads as if you dont give a shit a townie just flipped. You instantly move on, thinking about scum nominations already. Its like you fucked him in a one night stand and then kicked him out and didnt even call a taxi. Even when prplhz is questioning you; you respond meekly, I believe with the intention to be ignored. It worked. Whilst this occured you were subtly asking everyone to consolidate on JX; but never contributed with serious thought on why he was the best candidate. This reeks to manipulation and scum play. Scummy townies often say things that are so stupid/wrong its easy to think they are trying to mislead as town. Your filter shows no signs of unintentional misleading, rather, when pressuring Jay you are EXTREMELY specific. Thus, for me, I see intentional play to drive your agenda: i.e.push JX as lynch candidate and remain low by making calculated decisions to show interest and responding methodically to blend in. @all Please share your thoughts on the above; do you see JayBrundage play as a bad townie? | ||
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On February 08 2013 13:52 jaybrundage wrote: In regards to the bold isnt that what everyone does? In all seriousness there isn't much to say about JX. JX was lurking hard and didn't contribute anything till some pressure was on him and even then he didn't produce much. I was having second thoughts about him per palmars post but no one wanted to lynch prplhz. I dont care if i bring your comments on Oats back to the limelight. If I think something you did was questionable I will call it out. You stated something I didn't agree with so I said as much. And are you fucking kidding me with this consolidation bit. Ofc we have to consolidate as town. If we don't it gives mafia more leeway to swing the vote. Also you your self were asking people to consolidate on JX so how is what you say even make sense. Also why do you ask if im a bad townie. Why not just ask if people think I'm scum? Jay,
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So if you dont see reasons for scum; how do you rate your town play this game as: pro-town, bad townie, or in the middle?? I still think we had different motives to consolidate. And I am still concerned you made a comment to consolidate and then fucked off. As I have said repeatedly, where is your commitment to developing your read via pressure/analysis/alternative means? Your play reads as if you dont care. All my questions regarding commitment you have dodged; why is that? Jay Do you have a top scum read? & why Who is your top town read? & why If you can answer these simple questions, that would go a way towards showing me you actually care. | ||
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What im getting at is  for example)When prplhz questioned you for pressuring Djo. I stood up for you because I thought that pressure was useful for town. I was also pressuring Djo about the RNG, but was less effective (in part due to him pressuring me simultaneously). In the end you got an interesting result. (i.e. Djo didtn want to push the RNG on Oats [apparently] but still followed through) My issue is, with the above statement from Djo; you said, thats it, im satisfied and stopped pursuit. Personally I thought there was much more to develop with this lead. Its also not clear to me, if you thought the RNG is a town indicator. So to me, this is why i am reading you as contributing without contributing. You led some pressure, and then once you peeled the first layer of the onion off; you stopped as if you had done your duty. | ||
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On February 08 2013 14:42 yamato77 wrote: Let's wait and talk about reads after we see the day post. I don't want mafia getting any ideas about who is good to nominate. In the mean time, I like Mocsta's train of thought about the lynch. Who seemed to not care? Reread and we'll talk about it on day 2. Peace. Technically it is Day2. Also, if we dotn talk about it now; I think it will get forgotten when the nominees come out and we have to discuss them. | ||
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On February 08 2013 15:20 yamato77 wrote: Yes but we're not lyching our reads tomorrow, we're lynching who mafia pick. Giving out reads right now lets them play WIFOM games with who they picked and why. Better to let them make a tougher, less informed decision about the nominations than to give them ideas. Tomorrow night we can begin scum hunting like normal, but tonight we need to consider the setup more closely and try to prepare ourselves to properly analyze the mafia picks tomorrow. hmmm I guess it wont hurt to use this 24hrs to re-read the thread post the activity explosion last night, without feeling the need to constantly F5. K, I prob wont be back till post-dawn. It is Friday night after all  Ohh btw; I wont be available till prob 12 hrs into the next cycle (sat day is always hectic for me) | ||
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Whats the point of forcing one townie lynch if you then confirm two townies. Thats weak play. Why are you raising this VE.. For someone who liked my 'nomination insight' this statement of yours is an overly simplistic conclusion. | ||
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pls spell it out for me. Why are u certain u will be up for the lynch? I thought that comment was odd. | ||
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But people need to stop proposing 3 town is guaranteed (i.e. sl0osh and VE). It is not certain, so dont advocate it. & I still want an answer to why sl0osh thinks he is going to be up for lynch; AFAIK all 12 of us could be up for lynch, what makes him special. | ||
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I have a question why cheesecake vs mudcake? | ||
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On February 08 2013 20:36 Oatsmaster wrote: Guys, why are we discussing who scum is gonna pick? How does it help town at this point of time? Im not trying to be a smart arse.. but considering the above why are you raising this now? | ||
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I thought the whole spiel of yam/sl0osh was if you talk about scumreads now, it can influence who is nominated. | ||
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I did bring up jay hours ago. Im saying the other guys were against discussing it | ||
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can you give thoughts on the convo between me/jay do you see good townie, bad townie, or other? | ||
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On February 08 2013 23:06 Oatsmaster wrote: So? Are you in favor/not in favour of discussing reads? See this is why we dont get along On February 08 2013 22:59 Mocsta wrote: im more than happy to discuss scumreads I did bring up jay hours ago. Im saying the other guys were against discussing it I can comment on your prplhz thingo if you want, im still waiting for feedback from you on my jay stuff | ||
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working on it. *sigh* its because i write what im thinking; instead of think what i write. | ||
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