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On February 14 2013 13:20 Oatsmaster wrote:right now Mocsta, you are posting irrelevent questions in my opinion. So explain.
Its not irrelevant at all.
You and Jay admit you did not have a positive read on CC until after the Snarfs lynch.
Before the bus I was calling out CC for scummy action and your reads on CC were not 'useful town';
Now after CC drove home Snarfs; you want to keep him in the game.
Fact: Town has been in a shit house state since the first nominations: i.e. no-one listens to anybody; and no one has tried to take ownership of the town leader role. In this environment, scum can easily sacrifice one member for town cred. Its not even a gamble - that is how much of a sorry-state we are in.
For most of the game, you and others have acknowledged I am town.
My job this cycle is to convince you Mr. CC is scum.
I am asking questions like the above; because I am trying to understand where to focus my energies on.
Lastly, please keep an open mind when it comes to scum tactics.
Jay/Xatalos just won over guys like WhereBugsGo in DesertMini using bussing to great success.
Some of the people on my scum list are highly regarded on this forum for scum play; its not out of the question they would use bussing as a tactic to distance themselves.
Heck, in my scum game I did it too and I was a newbie..
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On February 14 2013 14:14 jaybrundage wrote:
Given that your voting CC mocsta who's your vote for going to be tmw given you live.
Your first post is a fence sitter. You say "we should go for CC" but then say "he also could just b town".
The most important comment is.. without Palmar in the game.. why is VE not nominated.
So who is my vote going on next cycle?
The man wit 'dem eyes.
VE, was a close shave yesterday; and will be bleeding red if I am alive next cycle.
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Lol
this is funny as.. VE, thanks for teaching me some tricks on how to handle these situations 
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k. so now its confirmed its yamato not phagga
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look at how town ppl like oats, havnt laid a vote yet
whilst its the scum who feel the need to set the tone and vote me
and they not even saying town, now they trying to paint scum
this is hillarious
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On February 14 2013 10:59 Mocsta wrote:
OK guys,
posting this as close to the nomination window as I can (assume actions lock in at 10:00am (my time) and its 9:59am now.
Regardless of who is up there my picks for the remaining three mafia =
(1)Mr. CC - Led the bus onto Snarfs: plan is to ride the town cred home.I been suspicious of this fucker for a while.
(2)Yamato - one of those two is scum; haven't made up my mind, im (slightly) leaning towards phagga
(3)VisceraEyes - Yeap ! You heard it right here. Scum was in a double lynch/bus situation Day3, and decided to save VE over Snarfs (and can you blame them... )
Me sucking up to VE was a ploy to hopefully lull scum into false security. If you notice:
P.S. based on Mr.CC starting to put the hooks in, by casting me as "null"; I am more than expecting to be on the nomination table again. If any of those 3 people are nominated; I am voting them full stop.
P.P.S.
Sl0osh has shown before in this game he is willing to reconsider his targets (i.e. early Day1 on yamato). I dont take it as scummy that he switched off VE. I think he genuinely said what happened; re-read events, and decided Snarfs was a more guaranteed lynch to burn red.
k phagga is removed now
lynch the list above for the win
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On February 14 2013 15:34 jaybrundage wrote:
@Mocsta Yes I don't know his alignment earlier on I entertained the possibility of him being scum. But I still don't think its likely. Also VE Yamato do you guys seriously view Mocsta as scum. I think his constant pushing the thread for discussion has been very townie in my eyes.
Also I would also try to focus the lynch on tmw. If there are actually three townies on the board then we waste time talking about who we want to lynch. Scum can get away with talking about whos the scummiest of the three townies.
What we should do is simply pressure our actually scum reads and not whos on the block.
Yamato, VE what are your thoughts on Phagga and Prplhz?
Jay, you have all the facts in front of you.
Its up to you how you read it.
Just remember, It has been clear for the majority of the game I am town.
Why do you think all of a sudden *Certain* individuals are calling me scum NOW?
Scum absolutely shat themselves the way I outted the team, and predicted that CC would be in the nominations.
You make it even clearer, that VE should be in the nominations; just like Town Palmer >>> Town anyone.
Town VE >>> Town CC. -- why isnt his dick on the chopping block?
Even CC preempting this nomination, suggesting I am scum; and then suddenly (After my list) reverting to "null"
yamato wants to call me blendy, but CC is the blendiest scum muda farker out there.
Scum are trying to make their presence known by voting first and voting hard; even calling me scum now. Hoping guys like you and Oats will just sheep on.
If you want a bigger tell: look at you and oats. You are trying to figure things out. It is scum who are trying to force a stance so early into the nominations.
So far, it has been scum doing the majority of the talking. Once the rest of town gives their feedback on the situation, I will present why Mr. CC is scum (+ its valentines day right now, and that will take precedence over mafia at all times )
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On February 14 2013 15:42 yamato77 wrote:
Mocsta is one of my actual scum reads.
I'm trying to figure this game out, and lynching Mocsta first helps me tremendously in doing so, aside from the fact that he's nominated.
Today, though, we lynch Mocsta, because neither CC or Sloosh is a good candidate at all. CC being picked into this group is insanely silly for mafia to do. Sloosh might still be mafia, but Mocsta is the best candidate right now.
Yeah, so I guess I have permission to brush off any accusations you make; just like you brushed off my case against you. LOLZ
So Yamaha, expound on how lynching me helps figure out the game.
& based on what you saying
CC >> sl0osh >> mocsta.
sl0osh
You happy with that assessment?
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Look at yamato try to filter bury
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jay.. yamato is just trying to flame you; just like what happened the other day
just walk away
They are filter burying cos they are scared.
it actually just makes Cc more guilty
Guys like yamato rarely post at this hour; and yet, now, he can't stop. its funny how they (scum) collapsed so quickly.
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On February 14 2013 16:28 yamato77 wrote:Look at Mocsta calling me scum with zero justification. You gave up your only leg to stand on when you unvoted me, BRAH
My third Leg is more than enough to hold me up against your bees-dick of a case.
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You know yamato; that reads like someone typed it up for you in the scum QT, and you pasted it here
lol
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On February 14 2013 16:41 yamato77 wrote:
There's no fucking way mafia would put up two guys that were clearly not getting lynched day 2 again day 4 if both of them were town. They would if they were mafia, though.
You know, its a rule of thumb in life and mafia.
When someone is trying to "force" shit down your throat... it still tastes like shit
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when someone is so vehemently against what mafia will do... its cos mafia are talking
yam.. i dont know why mafia do what they do; i can only guess and if lucky make an educated guess.
that you know with certainty.. well.. that is knowledge you (As town) would not possess.
regardless
Your fate has been sealed by your actions; for you, it is simply a matter of time.
P.S. And you have not swayed me from CC as you have hoped
Good night yamato, thanks for trying.
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K, now we are on a new page (due to Yamato filter burying)
I will bring back to the fore three posts.
On February 14 2013 10:59 Mocsta wrote:
OK guys,
posting this as close to the nomination window as I can (assume actions lock in at 10:00am (my time) and its 9:59am now.
Regardless of who is up there my picks for the remaining three mafia =
(1)Mr. CC - Led the bus onto Snarfs: plan is to ride the town cred home.I been suspicious of this fucker for a while.
(2)Yamato - one of those two is scum; haven't made up my mind, im (slightly) leaning towards phagga
(3)VisceraEyes - Yeap ! You heard it right here. Scum was in a double lynch/bus situation Day3, and decided to save VE over Snarfs (and can you blame them... )
Me sucking up to VE was a ploy to hopefully lull scum into false security. If you notice:
P.S. based on Mr.CC starting to put the hooks in, by casting me as "null"; I am more than expecting to be on the nomination table again. If any of those 3 people are nominated; I am voting them full stop.
P.P.S.
Sl0osh has shown before in this game he is willing to reconsider his targets (i.e. early Day1 on yamato). I dont take it as scummy that he switched off VE. I think he genuinely said what happened; re-read events, and decided Snarfs was a more guaranteed lynch to burn red. On February 14 2013 15:29 Mocsta wrote:
k phagga is removed now
lynch the list above for the win
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On February 14 2013 15:34 jaybrundage wrote:
@Mocsta Yes I don't know his alignment earlier on I entertained the possibility of him being scum. But I still don't think its likely. Also VE Yamato do you guys seriously view Mocsta as scum. I think his constant pushing the thread for discussion has been very townie in my eyes.
Also I would also try to focus the lynch on tmw. If there are actually three townies on the board then we waste time talking about who we want to lynch. Scum can get away with talking about whos the scummiest of the three townies.
What we should do is simply pressure our actually scum reads and not whos on the block.
Yamato, VE what are your thoughts on Phagga and Prplhz? On February 14 2013 15:57 Mocsta wrote:Jay, you have all the facts in front of you. Its up to you how you read it. Just remember, It has been clear for the majority of the game I am town. Why do you think all of a sudden *Certain* individuals are calling me scum NOW?Scum absolutely shat themselves the way I outted the team, and predicted that CC would be in the nominations. You make it even clearer, that VE should be in the nominations; just like Town Palmer >>> Town anyone. Town VE >>> Town CC. -- why isnt his dick on the chopping block? Even CC preempting this nomination, suggesting I am scum; and then suddenly (After my list) reverting to "null" yamato wants to call me blendy, but CC is the blendiest scum muda farker out there. Scum are trying to make their presence known by voting first and voting hard; even calling me scum now. Hoping guys like you and Oats will just sheep on. If you want a bigger tell: look at you and oats. You are trying to figure things out. It is scum who are trying to force a stance so early into the nominations.
So far, it has been scum doing the majority of the talking. Once the rest of town gives their feedback on the situation, I will present why Mr. CC is scum (+ its valentines day right now, and that will take precedence over mafia at all times )
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On February 14 2013 15:59 Mocsta wrote:
Yeah, so I guess I have permission to brush off any accusations you make; just like you brushed off my case against you. LOLZ
So Yamaha, ... based on what you saying
CC >> sl0osh >> mocsta.
sl0osh
You happy with that assessment?
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On February 14 2013 16:52 yamato77 wrote:
You really have no logical basis to stand on.
??
On February 14 2013 16:30 Mocsta wrote:
My third Leg is more than enough to hold me up against your bees-dick of a case.
Reads pretty logical to me.
Night Yam-Yam.
Stop being a try-hard now will ya.
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Noted Oats. & agreed.
So far, only you and Jay have chipped in. Want feedback from the other town members before making a fully fleshed out case.
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Oats,
Thanks for the "put down" but in this situation I will take it.
Gonna head off now anyways with Valentines Day and all. Be back in maybe 6 hours.
I will leave you to the flamer (yamato). Have fun and play nice.
P.S. yam yam
heres some presents for you.
On February 09 2013 12:27 yamato77 wrote:
Mocsta as town, while not known for the accuracy of his reads, is at least easy to read and active, which is more than enough reason to not kill him. Having the towniest people kept alive the longest benefits us in this situation. Eventually mafia will have no choice but to put themselves up against these ultra-town players in nominations, and that will be there undoing. Under no circumstances do I think we should even consider Mocsta as a choice. On February 11 2013 12:45 yamato77 wrote:
For town reads, Mocsta and Sloosh look really town to me, mostly from their play while under the gun. I'm more confident on Mocsta than Sloosh, but I would defend either one's towniness.
Funny how you can bullshit as much as you want; but the filter don't lie
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I read prplhz a bit like Annul in Mafia LIX.. i.e. guy that is self-centered and being ignored, so loses interest. but Town none-the-less.
Out of my reads given prior to nominations; I am firm on VE / Yamato.
If I am left alive, I will be pushing for VE head next cycle (as lets be honest here, yamato is not a threat regardless of alignment; the same can not be said for VE)
Mr. CC was my weakest read; so I will being to formulate my case for Mr.CC. I will have this ready at some stage tonight (work is too busy today to do a case) so probably in 12hrs.
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