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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 03:49 GMT
#1162
So now its related to insulting the accuser and not the argument.

I would call it ad-hominem, but considering you're not even arguing; your just shit flinging ad-hominem does not apply.

##Vote: yamato77

If you want some analysis.. read your last posts from Normal Mini 4 when you were lynched as scum. The insults and approach read pretty much like what you are spewing now.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 04:13 GMT
#1166
[fluff]
Please calm down jay.

Hopefully this will help.

In Hero Mini, when palmar made his "Day1 reads vid"; when you make a post, he said he remembers you.
Quite a few ppl he was like "who the fuck is this guy".

You have made a dent in your idol's life
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 04:29 GMT
#1175
lol almost.. nice name throw yamato

jay.. you need to take a step back, your getting way too heated

oats thrives on these confrontations; let it go (for the time being)

yam is intentionally baiting you now; just take a breather pls
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 04:36 GMT
#1190
On February 12 2013 13:31 yamato77 wrote:
You guys are accusing me of points I have already addressed or things that are simply untrue.

Umm .. no

I am accusing you of not addressing things directed your way.
and by all fuck am I NOT going to link those posts to you.

Then instead of addressing your critics, you sling shit everywhere and go ultra-derogatory.

Sorry yam; are you genuinely telling me that is pro-town yamato behaviour?

I dont recall you asking like this in your mason game in mafia LIX, and I had you as a town read pretty early on.


Fact is, yamato scum is NOT afraid to bus (that is clear from Normal Mini 4, where you bussed JX pretty much immediately)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 04:36 GMT
#1191
On February 12 2013 13:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
##Unvote

Jay. you have got to chill.

Oats please expound what jay has to do with you unvoting yamato?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 04:44 GMT
#1195
yep I read that.. and its a politician speech

what did you actually address that was your way

fuck all man

u just did a summary "im teflon" speech
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 04:48 GMT
#1197
yeah go on and ignore the real confronting issues..

just like a politician.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 04:52 GMT
#1200
On February 12 2013 13:49 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 13:48 Mocsta wrote:
yeah go on and ignore the real confronting issues..

just like a politician.

Lol

i wish we had pms this game Mocsta XD. I have something I have an idea for ya but I think it should wait for later tmw are you gonna be here like 10-7 hours before the lynch


I can swing 10 hrs from lynch .. 7 hours = 3am for me so no haha
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 04:57 GMT
#1203
On February 12 2013 13:53 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 13:50 jaybrundage wrote:
On February 12 2013 13:37 yamato77 wrote:
On February 12 2013 13:36 jaybrundage wrote:
Yamato why am i not scum

Because scum jay wouldn't openly sheep Palmar.

Scum jay barely even had reads to begin with, not even sheep reads.

If Palmar has bad reads why wouldn't i sheep them as scum.

@Oats I fail to see what you are trying to do.

Scum jay wouldn't admit to sheeping, because it draws attention to the fact that he's not making independent analysis. Town jay doesn't care, and often gets lynched for saying scummy things like that.

Why are you arguing with me about this? Mocsta's dumb argument that I "give up" my scum reads is blatantly false. Plenty of people opposed my opinion on JX, on Prplhz, on YOU, on Palmar, etc., yet I persisted. Because I'm town, and confident in my reads, wrong or not.

I am not sure what your talking about; I dont recall building a case on you as the points were already highlighted by others.

What I have requested is you address the points; you refuse to. each and every time.

That summary post of yours, is not how to make a defense (if your serious about being town) if you are the vote leader (which either you are, or pretty fuckn close)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 04:58 GMT
#1204
On February 12 2013 13:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Jay, do you think Prp is scum?

On February 12 2013 13:36 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 13:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
##Unvote

Jay. you have got to chill.

Oats please expound what jay has to do with you unvoting yamato?

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 05:26 GMT
#1218
Im taking a breather and rerwading the

this is just getting stupid

i think we need yo start producing cases
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 05:28 GMT
#1219
On February 12 2013 14:17 yamato77 wrote:
So, Snarfs is not a good lynch because you're making association cases again?

I need better than that.

What about his play suggests town to you at all? He's tunneled VE all game and done shit else.

If the problem is that you view VE as mafia, I can address the points Sloosh raises against him some time tomorrow, but I want you to filter Snarfs and think about his alignment first.

I already said with snarfs.
I think he made his case on ve too early instead of establishing innocence and that was why he cops grief.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 05:49 GMT
#1223
Yam

what usaid now about snarfs applies to 3/4 of the people in the game.

Basically no one has discussed much. Points are raised and then never answered. Its not just you. Others are doing the same thing.

As an aside
I know this is useless but i REALlY dont like djo.
I hope he doesnt get replaced im feeling scum there
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 06:31 GMT
#1225
Like I said.

early game
Snarfs voted VE and they bantered

I asked snarfs about a tell on VE.. he returned "null"
Like its a small thing, but if Snarfs was 100% tunneled on VE, he woulda said it was scummy as fuck.. that he didn't shows to me, he has thought VE was scum; built his case and stuck to his guns.

The con of snarfs is, recently (like others) he has been non-existant which could represent lack of care.


Yamato, i *still* dont like your approach to case defense this game. In fact I abhor it.
However, you have at least showed you care this phase, which is more I can say for 3/4 of the ppl remaining.
##Unvote

##Vote: VisceraEyes
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 07:22 GMT
#1227
VE Thanks for following through with Yam read
With Djo,
Maybe I misread his attempts at a trap; i just did not like at all how he handled the RNG situation between me, oats; I know D1 reads change and develop, but, he really handled it poorly.

Either way, this game has pretty much become a mexican stand-off.
Your onto sl0osh + snarfs; they both onto you etc

On February 12 2013 10:11 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 09:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah that got nixxed my bad. Cheese multiple times in his filter asks people to make a case on him, or "tunnel me bro"...with the intent to "get a better read on his accusers". That's too attention-whorey to be scummy. Not to mention he's one of like two people who have agreed with me on Snarfs like all game. I'm just not interested in lynching Cheese.

Also, this is a minor point, but something that pretty well seals my read of him:

I disagree. Asking people to discourse is not a town tell at all. Its an easy way to gain town cred; so i am surprised you have given CC the green light based on this type of justification.

Further, people agreeing with your lynch candidates, is not indicative of town alignment either
http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon

So far, all I have seen are null tells; which you are construing as "sealed" town read.

You have showed some reasoned thoughts with Djo; I would like your opinion on the above.
Thanks,


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 08:44 GMT
#1233
Oats
Who are the 4 scum ppl to you in the game?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 09:18 GMT
#1238
On February 12 2013 17:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont really see thats its all that scummy.

He just made a case, but concluded that he rather lynch Snarfs.

Voting the same person as your scumread doesnt mean much. Ever heard of busses?

Yamato is on the money man.

Who goes to the effort of building a case; and then saying at the end.. oohh

I'd consider lynching you.

Thats straight out scum vibe.

Tack that on with his chainsaw defense on yamato yesterday (over jay) its now not looking good @ all.

The only reason i felt good about cheese, was because he laid into phagga; but cc actions on his own dont hold up anymore.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 11:20 GMT
#1241
On February 12 2013 18:51 phagga wrote:
Mocsta, what do you think of the two points I raised regarding VE?

I am voting for VE based on two criteria

(1) Gut feel; I actually really like VE; his post syncs well with me and I can't pinpoint why. This was the same problem I had with Gonzaw in Mafia LIX (I was the only town to give him a mayor vote) - gonzaw was SCUM
I know the above is weak, but so what; intuition is a skill in mafia

&

(2) The whole; i think palmar is scum; so i am going to vote his "lynch candidate" - i.e. prplhz

so phagga, as for your question.

I agree with your first point (VE voting the scum read)

but your second is pretty weak and based on circumstantial evidence.
Yes the time stamps show 30mins expired; but hey, maybe he spent that whole time jerking off.
The point is, thats grasping at straws.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=395690&currentpage=57#1135
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 22:28 GMT
#1272
On February 13 2013 02:40 yamato77 wrote:
By that I mean I think I covered why I switched my read on Mocsta. I don't think a mafia player would go through the effort to make a case on me like that. It's far more likely for him to be town and think me mafia for attacking him than him being mafia and coming up with enough shit to throw at me to make me look bad for attacking him. My meta read was weak anyway, so it wasn't important for me to continue to bog down the thread with long responses to him just to get a better read on him.

Baby, even though it was always implied; those WERE the words I need to hear from you.

*kiss & make-up* pls
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 12 2013 22:31 GMT
#1277
Us taking our VE;will be justice for scum letting us take out Palmar !!!

The Gods have spoken

zeus is trades for hades
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