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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 23:46 GMT
#1026
I wonder why VE was shot instead of iamp or me...
GG guys, and sorry I didn't wake up.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 23:53 GMT
#1027
On January 29 2013 08:33 EmileZola wrote:
also if sharrant really is a mislynch opportunity then it makes sense from a scum yamato perspective.

He called VE town repeatedly prior to his death and also pointed out sharrant being scummy.

Not sure what to think of it atm so gonna do some heavy rereading. I'll probably be back later today after school.


Why would yamato defend VE when I was threatening to shoot him then ?
What do you guys think of Prom and xsksc ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 00:02 GMT
#1032
@ Prome

Are you saying that VE is better than supersoft and wbg together ?
Or are you saying they are not town this game ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 00:11 GMT
#1034
On January 28 2013 14:00 xsksc wrote:
Yeah we killed the rb, but won't scum just shoot you tonight now? I thought scum shot went before vigi shot.
Don't really see why you're claiming, unless I'm derping here..


@Prome

What do you make of this post ?
Doesn't it show some kind of scum mindset ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 00:14 GMT
#1035
@ Vivax

Please provide your case against Jx
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 00:37 GMT
#1040
On January 29 2013 09:22 Promethelax wrote:
What kind of scum mindset do you see there djo? Don't just say it. Show it to me.


You know, the kind of things that make you think directly to the mafia night kill when someone claims vig.
Note also that he is very quick to believe my claim and doesn't show as much confusion and irritation as VE, wheresoft or you had shown towards me.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 00:43 GMT
#1041
On top of that, it's not like I was supposed to be on xsksc scum list from the beginning.

@ xsksc

Why did you believe my claim so easily ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 01:07 GMT
#1043
On January 29 2013 09:59 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 09:34 iamperfection wrote:
why do you think xzcxzv is town prom?


A matter of mentality. He seems interested, involved and unafraid. Not a strong town read but he is still on my green side.


So who are the remaining scum players according to you ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 01:42 GMT
#1048
On January 29 2013 10:09 Promethelax wrote:
My notes are on my computer but I have sharrent looking scummy and Yamato less and less townie. Also Hapa2.0 is a concern, 1.0 was, to my great surprise, a slight town read but there is so little to go on there. JX is on the scummy side of null and you djo are still scummy in my eyes.


scummy scum or scummy SK ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 01:44 GMT
#1049
##vote xsksc
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 01:47 GMT
#1050
Could you provide detailed explanations for Jx ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 01:56 GMT
#1053
On January 29 2013 10:48 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 10:42 Djodref wrote:
On January 29 2013 10:09 Promethelax wrote:
My notes are on my computer but I have sharrent looking scummy and Yamato less and less townie. Also Hapa2.0 is a concern, 1.0 was, to my great surprise, a slight town read but there is so little to go on there. JX is on the scummy side of null and you djo are still scummy in my eyes.


scummy scum or scummy SK ?


well that is the problem, your play suggests scum and your actions vig/sk. There is a reason you were the least scummy of the lot. I can't figure out how your play as a whole fits with town/sk/scum


I'm confirmed vig/sk for a start. Also my claim yesterday was pro-town, I have been antagonistic because you guys were pissing me off and I wanted to gauge your reactions.
And I don't see how you can see me as scum when I called thrawn out the first after VE's joke. Did you really read day one again ? What do you make of JieXian voting thrawn in second place behind iamp ? Please explain me how do you see the bus.
Same for you Vivax, explain me how and why JieXian has bussed thrawn yesterday.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 01:59 GMT
#1054
Something worth to note: there is almost no interactions between sharrant and xsksc ^^
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 02:30 GMT
#1058
On January 29 2013 11:24 EmileZola wrote:
it's pretty easy. As a vig, you don't claim night 1. You wait until you have a really safe shot and pull the trigger. That would have been the correct move.


It was a safe shot. Also I got to get one of you leaked his identity, so it's not so bad. I don't even understand why you bring this subject to the table because, even if you think I'm SK, you should be more concerned by lynching scum today.
This discussion is pointless because 1.I'm town vig, 2.we should lynch mafia.
I'm not particularly impressed by your play so far, so please start to tell me who is scum with sharrant, ok ?

We can discuss this kind of thing in the post game if you want.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 02:32 GMT
#1059
@ supersoft

How did you not see that thrawn was scum from the beginning ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 02:51 GMT
#1065
On January 29 2013 11:43 EmileZola wrote:
Djodref, you are one of the players who is getting on my nerves.

You don't read carefully and ask questions that have already been answered.

"How did you not see that thrawn was scum from the beginning ?"

what kind of question is this? What is your goal with it?
Not only was I the first player who voted thrawn, moreover I explained why I unvoted him and started to push his lynch in the perfect moment, 4 hours before the lynch.

Now I reposted, what I already explained here:

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 04:11 EmileZola wrote:
okay I think it's time to clear some things up:

On January 27 2013 00:57 EmileZola wrote:
haha, i don't understand why a fellowtownie would refuse to help me a little bit with a short summary


by that moment i had already read the thread.

On January 27 2013 06:42 EmileZola wrote:
there is also one additional reason, a reason i will tell you in exactly 22 hours from now on.


the main reason was, that i wanted to move my vote away from thrawn.
I was believing thrawn was scum:
thrawn is playing WAY different compared to his last towngame, where he did well.

On January 27 2013 20:56 EmileZola wrote:
I am pretty sure that thrawn isn't lurking... I think he's just afk.


i wanted to cozy thrawn around a bit, to see if he shapes up without pressure.
Because if a player shapes up with pressure it's hardly a town/scumtell.

I wanted to give thrawn the chance to come in the thread and play his normal meta and convince me that i was wrong about him in the first place, since he's a good player and I refuse to lynch good players early.
However, he continued to be useles..

On January 28 2013 03:38 EmileZola wrote:
telling you in 30 minutes


I wanted to provoke VE a little. Because he tends to rage hard as town. He didn't react to my vote, but he already raged before. I think VE is more likely town.

On January 28 2013 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
FUCKING SERIOUSLY?!


:-)

now back to thrawn:

Scum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394344&user=83569

Town: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955&user=83569&currentpage=5


and here:

Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 03:45 EmileZola wrote:
[20:58] <supersoooooo> ^_^
[21:01] <supersoooooo> ahm
[21:02] <supersoooooo> how long does it take to organize this channel ^_^
[21:02] <supersoooooo> did you follow the thread?
[21:02] <supersoooooo> i wasn't at home, but i catched up pretty quickly, since the game has only like 10 pages...
[21:03] <supersoooooo> sharrant and ghost haven't posted yet. Thrawn has small 2-3 posts
[21:03] <supersoooooo> hapa has 1 filterpage
[21:04] <supersoooooo> vivax, iamp, prom have 3 pages, djodref has even 4...
[21:05] <supersoooooo> there is no pressure in this town. Marvel quit and VE never has a plan
[21:06] <supersoooooo> i think a townhapa should be able to create a better atmosphere than this
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> sry
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> I wasn't getting
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> notifications for this
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> I think
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> thrawn is 100% scum
[21:30] <supersoooooo> yes. My plan is to cozy him around a little for the next 24 hours and get him lynched d1 if he doesn't shape up
[21:30] <supersoooooo> i don't want to put too much pressure on him
[21:31] <supersoooooo> i mean i want to give him the oportunity to shape up without pressure
[21:31] <supersoooooo> if he does that, i think he's town
[21:31] <supersoooooo> but if he doesnt, he's a really save choice for d1
[21:31] <@MommyDearest> ye



I don't know why you are derailing the thread with questions like that. I hate pointless discussions like that.


Why do you need a plan like this ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 03:00 GMT
#1070
On January 29 2013 11:55 EmileZola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 11:51 Djodref wrote:
On January 29 2013 11:43 EmileZola wrote:
Djodref, you are one of the players who is getting on my nerves.

You don't read carefully and ask questions that have already been answered.

"How did you not see that thrawn was scum from the beginning ?"

what kind of question is this? What is your goal with it?
Not only was I the first player who voted thrawn, moreover I explained why I unvoted him and started to push his lynch in the perfect moment, 4 hours before the lynch.

Now I reposted, what I already explained here:

On January 28 2013 04:11 EmileZola wrote:
okay I think it's time to clear some things up:

On January 27 2013 00:57 EmileZola wrote:
haha, i don't understand why a fellowtownie would refuse to help me a little bit with a short summary


by that moment i had already read the thread.

On January 27 2013 06:42 EmileZola wrote:
there is also one additional reason, a reason i will tell you in exactly 22 hours from now on.


the main reason was, that i wanted to move my vote away from thrawn.
I was believing thrawn was scum:
thrawn is playing WAY different compared to his last towngame, where he did well.

On January 27 2013 20:56 EmileZola wrote:
I am pretty sure that thrawn isn't lurking... I think he's just afk.


i wanted to cozy thrawn around a bit, to see if he shapes up without pressure.
Because if a player shapes up with pressure it's hardly a town/scumtell.

I wanted to give thrawn the chance to come in the thread and play his normal meta and convince me that i was wrong about him in the first place, since he's a good player and I refuse to lynch good players early.
However, he continued to be useles..

On January 28 2013 03:38 EmileZola wrote:
telling you in 30 minutes


I wanted to provoke VE a little. Because he tends to rage hard as town. He didn't react to my vote, but he already raged before. I think VE is more likely town.

On January 28 2013 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
FUCKING SERIOUSLY?!


:-)

now back to thrawn:

Scum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394344&user=83569

Town: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955&user=83569&currentpage=5


and here:

On January 29 2013 03:45 EmileZola wrote:
[20:58] <supersoooooo> ^_^
[21:01] <supersoooooo> ahm
[21:02] <supersoooooo> how long does it take to organize this channel ^_^
[21:02] <supersoooooo> did you follow the thread?
[21:02] <supersoooooo> i wasn't at home, but i catched up pretty quickly, since the game has only like 10 pages...
[21:03] <supersoooooo> sharrant and ghost haven't posted yet. Thrawn has small 2-3 posts
[21:03] <supersoooooo> hapa has 1 filterpage
[21:04] <supersoooooo> vivax, iamp, prom have 3 pages, djodref has even 4...
[21:05] <supersoooooo> there is no pressure in this town. Marvel quit and VE never has a plan
[21:06] <supersoooooo> i think a townhapa should be able to create a better atmosphere than this
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> sry
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> I wasn't getting
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> notifications for this
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> I think
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> thrawn is 100% scum
[21:30] <supersoooooo> yes. My plan is to cozy him around a little for the next 24 hours and get him lynched d1 if he doesn't shape up
[21:30] <supersoooooo> i don't want to put too much pressure on him
[21:31] <supersoooooo> i mean i want to give him the oportunity to shape up without pressure
[21:31] <supersoooooo> if he does that, i think he's town
[21:31] <supersoooooo> but if he doesnt, he's a really save choice for d1
[21:31] <@MommyDearest> ye



I don't know why you are derailing the thread with questions like that. I hate pointless discussions like that.


Why do you need a plan like this ?


So you didn't read this stuff before right?

Why do I need a plan? Why not? There could have been other explanations for thrawns inactivity.

And just for the record: I answered your first question by quoting stuff i already posted hours and days before your question, right?


Yes, I read it before, but I don't see why you didn't push thrawn in a straight forward way when you have him as scum.
Okay, we can drop this point. Tell me more about Sharrant and who is the last scum according to you.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 03:14 GMT
#1073
welcome jay !

Could you give us your list of reads when you are done with reading the thread ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 03:24 GMT
#1080
On January 29 2013 12:17 yamato77 wrote:
I think he gave some reads right there, Djo.

Are you reading people's posts?


I meant a list with his reads on all players in the game.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 29 2013 04:44 GMT
#1105
On January 29 2013 13:30 EmileZola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 11:32 Djodref wrote:
@ supersoft

How did you not see that thrawn was scum from the beginning ?


ok, wbg here, and this post actually pissed me the fuck off as I was reading (and I wasn't planning on posting tonight since I still don't feel like I have made sense of everything)

First of all, we both almost immediately thought thrawn was scum. IIRC our first vote was on thrawn. I was afk and super did his own thing with VE and whatnot inbetween. I can't speak for him but I did feel like VE was acting strangely. (but I feel like that every game I play with VE, so whatever)

Secondly, the fact that this is coming from YOU is fucking aggravating. YOU did not see thrawn was 100% scum from the beginning, because YOU put your vote elsewhere.

Yet, you put the accusation on us for apparently not finding thrawn scum from the beginning? Bullshit, YOU didn't, not us.


I didn't put my vote on thrawn but I suspected he was scum from the beginning and I said it as soon as I entered the thread. I was more interested in pushing active targets than thrawn to get more constructive discussion.
Anyway, no need to be pissed off like this, and from your actions it is not clear that you had thrawn as scum for the beginning. The vote on thrawn was very quickly unvoted and your whole plan is dubious.
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