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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 15:12 GMT
#940
EBWOP: having suddenly VE as town allows him to yell at me like Prome did
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 15:13 GMT
#942
ghost, I need more from you than this on VE.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 15:18 GMT
#945
On January 29 2013 00:14 Vivax wrote:
Djo, shoot JX or ghost. You can be a HERO tonight.

They seem reluctant to talk about each other!


I want to give them a chance to contribute constructively. Could you give me your own reasons of why I should shoot them.
A short list of arguments for both of them could be fine.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 15:42 GMT
#952
On January 26 2013 09:22 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 09:18 Vivax wrote:
That's good news! Marv is on town's side!


Too quick to believe marv. Miller in c9++ is in 40% of games. Look at the bugs/palmar argument in YAN. There is a good reason for scum to claim miller too.

##Vote: Vivax



On January 26 2013 20:02 Promethelax wrote:
Clearly it does not make I p scummiest in my eyes. JX is scummiest.

In the shower I had a thought he wants us to distrust Marc's miller claim. Scum want that.


@ Promethelax

What changed your mind about marv's miller claim between these two posts ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 15:54 GMT
#956
On January 29 2013 00:46 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 00:42 Djodref wrote:
On January 26 2013 09:22 Promethelax wrote:
On January 26 2013 09:18 Vivax wrote:
That's good news! Marv is on town's side!


Too quick to believe marv. Miller in c9++ is in 40% of games. Look at the bugs/palmar argument in YAN. There is a good reason for scum to claim miller too.

##Vote: Vivax



On January 26 2013 20:02 Promethelax wrote:
Clearly it does not make I p scummiest in my eyes. JX is scummiest.

In the shower I had a thought he wants us to distrust Marc's miller claim. Scum want that.


@ Promethelax

What changed your mind about marv's miller claim between these two posts ?

i dont see a connection between those two posts


The first one he attacks Vivax for trusting Marv's claim too quickly, the second one he attacks JX for discrediting Marv.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 15:55 GMT
#957
An hydra should be able to post two times more !
Emile Zola, why so inactive ?

It could explain the difference of reads on VE though...
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 15:56 GMT
#959
Ghost, my gun is still aiming at your head !
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:19 GMT
#965
On January 29 2013 01:01 ghost_403 wrote:
@djo: You gonna give me a good reason why you're planning on shooting me? I can't really argue again "meh, I don't really see any better scum targets", especially when I've been pushing the two scum that I've found all game long. Do you disagree with my reads?


I'm going to shoot you because you started to be active yesterday and pushed Prom (that you apparently totally forgot) right when thrawn wagon was starting to get some traction. Also, thrawn lynch was quite easily, which makes me think that his scumbuddies where also quite inactive and couldn't derail his lynch.
So this is looking bad for Sharrant, Hapa and you. And I have to say that I consider the rest of the players quite town (even JieXian thanks to his early vote on thrawn, also he is quite open and nice in this game) at the exception of EmileZola.

I don't think it is a bad decision to shoot you because you are inactive and you pushing Prome and defending thrawn makes sure that we have to lynch you at some point. Even if you are town, I don't want us to waste a day mislynching you.

You should have brought more points for VE, because he is active, he is trying to figure things out, he is playing the game, so I think he is town.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:22 GMT
#967
On January 29 2013 01:19 yamato77 wrote:
If I was vig I would have shot Djo.

Now it's kind of ironic that he claims vig.

I think he's SK.


Yeah, because the SK would totally have claimed Vig like I did and wanted to draw a lot of attention on him.
If there is a SK in this game, I think it's Emile Zola.
Right now, I would say that Sharrant and ghost are scum, which explain why we could lynch a scum on D1 (inactive scum team). Emile Zola could be SK because of his anti-town play and supersoft reaction to my gun pointed at his head.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:24 GMT
#968
@ Vivax

JX is town, and he is scummy as town, and you should know it. His vote against thrawn is the second one against him, and he gave good reasons for his vote.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:24 GMT
#969
@ JieXian

Vivax is also town, because well, he hasn't changed at all
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:27 GMT
#971
Ok guys, it's 1.30 am and here are my reads

[list]
[*]iamp, macthing his usual town meta, leading the lynch on the evil lurking scum thrawn, is confirmed town
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:28 GMT
#972
On January 29 2013 01:26 ghost_403 wrote:
I distinctly remember pushing Prom. I pushed Prom when I thought he was acting scummy. What I don't know is how that makes me scum.

And before you say "oh, well, you didn't like the Thrawn lynch.", I would like you to take a look at my previous games and find me one where I'm okay lynching a lurker Day 1.

Oh, and for the record, "posting a lot" != "active and trying to figure stuff out". That's probably the worst part of the TL meta. Judge me by the content and quality of my posts.


So, why did you give up on him today ?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:37 GMT
#979
On January 29 2013 01:36 ghost_403 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 01:28 Djodref wrote:
On January 29 2013 01:26 ghost_403 wrote:
I distinctly remember pushing Prom. I pushed Prom when I thought he was acting scummy. What I don't know is how that makes me scum.

And before you say "oh, well, you didn't like the Thrawn lynch.", I would like you to take a look at my previous games and find me one where I'm okay lynching a lurker Day 1.

Oh, and for the record, "posting a lot" != "active and trying to figure stuff out". That's probably the worst part of the TL meta. Judge me by the content and quality of my posts.


So, why did you give up on him today ?


I haven't given up. I've been spending my time pushing VE instead of going back and rereading D1 for Prom's contributions to the lynching of Thrawn. As soon as I get a chance to catch my breath, I'll go back and figure out what Thrawn's flip says about Prom's alignment.


I'd like your thoughts on Sharrant if possible.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:42 GMT
#982
  • iamp, matching his usual town meta, leading the lynch on the evil lurking scum thrawn, is confirmed town
  • JieXian, also matching his usual town meta, quite careless and nice, second vote on thrawn
  • Yamato, some good posts defending VE when I wanted to shoot him + miller claim

  • Vivax, matching his town meta in term of activity and "craziness"
  • Promethelax, appears townie, follows his targets, cares about the game, a bit aggressive
  • VE, couldn't know thrawn alignment, more active than in his scum games, same feeling than LVIII
  • xsksc, reasonable, polite, promotes a good atmosphere and is open about his thoughts

  • Hapa, looked townie at the beginning, but Hapa is able to do that, need to pressure the replacement
  • EmileZola, didn't like supersoft drama, quite inactive for an hydra, could be SK because not helping the town

  • Sharrant
  • Ghost


My theory is that the scum team couldn't divert the town from thrawn lynch because they were also inactive. Which makes the last guys on my list looking quite bad. Especially ghost coming last minute and starting being more active when thrawn wagon started to get some traction. The best decision is to shoot him, unless he can prove himself town until the deadline.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:46 GMT
#983
I think I could be wrong on xsksc and Promethelax. But I'm quite confident in the rest of my reads.
I'll let you know my final decision when I wake up tomorrow morning. You can trust me 100% that I'm going to do what I'm going to announce in the thread.

Also if you take the time to read the beginning of the game, it is quite clear that I'm not scum (I'm the first one calling thrawn out after VE) and my claim tonight should also be a good proof that I'm not SK. I think it was a good move since the mafia RB is dead.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:49 GMT
#985
On January 29 2013 01:35 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 01:33 iamperfection wrote:
On January 29 2013 01:31 yamato77 wrote:
On January 29 2013 01:22 Djodref wrote:
On January 29 2013 01:19 yamato77 wrote:
If I was vig I would have shot Djo.

Now it's kind of ironic that he claims vig.

I think he's SK.


Yeah, because the SK would totally have claimed Vig like I did and wanted to draw a lot of attention on him.
If there is a SK in this game, I think it's Emile Zola.
Right now, I would say that Sharrant and ghost are scum, which explain why we could lynch a scum on D1 (inactive scum team). Emile Zola could be SK because of his anti-town play and supersoft reaction to my gun pointed at his head.

Why do any of you people do the things you do?

Last time there was an SK he claimed town vig before he died.

What makes you any different?

uh the way he did it.

You mean:

1) Receive suspicion

2) Claim town vig

3) Claim to play pro-town

Is that the sequence of events you're looking for?


I didn't care about the suspicion people were showing towards me. I'm very confident that I could talk my way out of a mislynch (at least as town) after Hero Mini Mafia.
Also I was pretty sure to be confirmed town after my shoot tonight, and that's why I've been asking people for their cases against me. After that I've realized that it could be even better to directly claim vig to put some pressure on the scummy players.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:51 GMT
#986
On January 29 2013 01:47 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 01:42 Djodref wrote:
  • iamp, matching his usual town meta, leading the lynch on the evil lurking scum thrawn, is confirmed town
  • JieXian, also matching his usual town meta, quite careless and nice, second vote on thrawn
  • Yamato, some good posts defending VE when I wanted to shoot him + miller claim

  • Vivax, matching his town meta in term of activity and "craziness"
  • Promethelax, appears townie, follows his targets, cares about the game, a bit aggressive
  • VE, couldn't know thrawn alignment, more active than in his scum games, same feeling than LVIII
  • xsksc, reasonable, polite, promotes a good atmosphere and is open about his thoughts

  • Hapa, looked townie at the beginning, but Hapa is able to do that, need to pressure the replacement
  • EmileZola, didn't like supersoft drama, quite inactive for an hydra, could be SK because not helping the town

  • Sharrant
  • Ghost


My theory is that the scum team couldn't divert the town from thrawn lynch because they were also inactive. Which makes the last guys on my list looking quite bad. Especially ghost coming last minute and starting being more active when thrawn wagon started to get some traction. The best decision is to shoot him, unless he can prove himself town until the deadline.

i would make some alterations to this

i will post my own closer to the deadline.
agree with the town reads except one.


Yeah, I would have liked to post mine closer to the deadline but I prefer to put it here now before going to bed...
I'll check the thread before I wake up but just in case I don't hear my alarm clock.

##Shoot ghost
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 16:54 GMT
#987
I would like people to discuss about Promethelax and xsksc when I sleep please !
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
January 28 2013 17:20 GMT
#989
On January 29 2013 02:12 Vivax wrote:
Wtf you have JX as strong town suddenly?

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 21:38 Djodref wrote:
On January 28 2013 21:31 EmileZola wrote:
you better shoot ghost.


So ghost and Sharrant the remaining scum players ?
It looks too easy. What about JieXian and Hapa ? I think they could be scum as well.


Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 23:28 Djodref wrote:
On January 28 2013 23:25 Vivax wrote:
I would actually support if you shot JX as well. Decent chance of being scum due to the premature Prom dirt slinging.


Yeah, I could see myself shooting him tonight ^^


That is a scummy switch.


I wanted to test his reaction and force him to participate. I think he is town after re-reading the thread, and anyway I'm going to be confirmed vig (and certainly dead) soon enough.
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