I think djodref is easily confirmable as town or SK.
If one other blue flips in the future and someone else is blue, djo is confirmed SK.
If not, he's confirmed scum.
The problem Djodref will solve itself. In the meantime I consider him so be town.

JieXian

Malaysia4677 Posts

January 29 2013 16:50 GMT

#1124

On January 30 2013 01:48 EmileZola wrote:
I think djodref is easily confirmable as town or SK.
If one other blue flips in the future and someone else is blue, djo is confirmed SK.
If not, he's confirmed scum.
The problem Djodref will solve itself. In the meantime I consider him so be town.

Ya, makes sense. I'm not going to lynch him either.

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 29 2013 20:20 GMT

#1125

Why are people still talking about Djo?

I'd rather hear some discussion on Sharrant. Why doesn't he have all of your votes yet?

Has he even posted this cycle?

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

January 29 2013 20:26 GMT

#1126

Jay, would you care to be useful to us? You come into the thread and have a vote on Yamato, the claimed miller, while we can all agree that Yamato is not matching his usual town meta he is also failing to match his scum meta. He has claimed miller and, as I explained earlier: we don't lynch the miller yet. Who else do you read as scum (still shar?) why?

Imp, you r wagon feels much less just today. Try to give me a case on the young gentleman instead of telling me he annoys you. I haven't heard anything from you that convinces me even a little.

xscsk: provide a case on your top scum read(s). I almost want to join the wagon on you just for calling your lynch a mislynch and vanishing. Come back and do something.

EZ: I'd love to hear your conclusions after having reread the thread.

JX: why is Vivax scum? I'm not sure I see it.

Vivax: why is JX scum? I'm not sure I see it.

Djo: I guess you are town? Until more blues flip I'm sticking with that read. Please do something with your semi onfirmed status besides antagonizing EZ.

Yamato: please step up your activity. You have, for the second time in as many minis, taken the miller role and used being 'confirmed town' to be useless to town.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

January 29 2013 20:28 GMT

#1127

Yam, you want discussion on Shar? explain why he is scum. All I see in your filter is 'non-committal' and 'fluffy'

yamato77

11589 Posts

January 29 2013 20:32 GMT

#1128

Is there anything else to characterize his play as?

I suppose you could add this disappearing act to that list.

Better question, why don't you think he is?

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 20:35 GMT

#1129

Ahm, who is the setup expert here... How many scum do we have? 3? 4?
3 + 1SK? How many blues do we have?
What are the odds?

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 20:41 GMT

#1130

And if there are Masons, I want them to claim now please! Just do it!

Vivax

22191 Posts

January 29 2013 20:55 GMT

#1131

Prom, why do you appeal to do something to everyone except Sharrant in your post?

Lynching JX is pretty obvious. I'm just repeating what has already been said:

1) He voted for thrawn for him "to come out".
2) Then he shoveled shit at Prom and made a premature connection Thrawn was a scummy lurker and Prom was scum for allegedly defending him.
Doesn't matter if he misread what Prom wrote, that actually makes it more likely that he made his case against him up.
3) He's been completely apathetic in front of Djo until I asked Djo to shoot him.
4) Now he's moving on with his OMGUS crusade against me and is disinterested in everything else.
5) His German is bad.
6) His activity and lack of interest in town business is scummy.
7) He just said xsksx is my scumbuddy. No comment.

Vivax

22191 Posts

January 29 2013 21:01 GMT

#1132

He was SO sure about thrawn being scum that he immediately put you into the same box as him once he saw something that even just LOOKED like it could be a defence of him.

Me and VE weren't sure of thrawn either. It's natural as townie to not be sure. JX was sure of you for a connection but not sure of thrawn? How does that make sense.

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 21:09 GMT

#1133

On January 30 2013 06:01 Vivax wrote:
He was SO sure about thrawn being scum that he immediately put you into the same box as him once he saw something that even just LOOKED like it could be a defence of him.

Me and VE weren't sure of thrawn either. It's natural as townie to not be sure. JX was sure of you for a connection but not sure of thrawn? How does that make sense.

Why do you connect yourself with VE like that?

Vivax

22191 Posts

January 29 2013 21:11 GMT

#1134

What do you mean by "connecting myself?"

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 21:15 GMT

#1135

you seem to be concerned that your play doesnt look townie enought and therefor you show us that VE - the dead townie - plays the same.

Vivax

22191 Posts

January 29 2013 21:19 GMT

#1136

It doesn't just have to do with my play. It has to do with the play of a townie who doesn't know if the guy getting lynched is actually mafia when you can't be sure based on what you've seen from thrawn at that point.

If you considered my case you would know why I wrote that:
Cause JX actually seemed sure enough about thrawn to immediately incriminate Prom for a connection no one else saw. And he didn't even read properly what Prom wrote when everyone else did, apparently.

Vivax

22191 Posts

January 29 2013 21:24 GMT

#1137

On January 30 2013 06:15 EmileZola wrote:
you seem to be concerned that your play doesnt look townie enought and therefor you show us that VE - the dead townie - plays the same.

Seriously though, I could slap you for this post. I'm writing reasons for lynching JX and you quote one of them saying I just wrote that cause I'm concerned about my play looking townie.

Start doing something useful. Who's there, Bugs?

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 21:24 GMT

#1138

okay yes. Thoughts on Hapa?

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

January 29 2013 21:28 GMT

#1139

Because shar is a useless lurker who hasn't said anything in 24 hours? when he comes back I'll ask him some questions if I have anything to learn from him.

EZ: I'm not set-up expert but every normal c9++ set up I've seen recently has three scum and many have an sk (it should be 50 percent but I've seen a lot of sks). We have some blues. Based on the Roleblocker flipping we at least three letters of blues. Both miller and one shot vig are one letter roles so we have a minimum of one more blue. The only c9++ I've seen with more than about four blues was yours Bugs. (why are you asking this? You know set-ups)

Vivax

22191 Posts

January 29 2013 21:28 GMT

#1140

I had Hapa as town early for his aggressive style. I liked that he supported getting more information from xsksc together with Prom.

Jay rushing in and voting Yamato sucks, instead. I thought there would actually be serious people this game. But I'm not even considering him to be scum at the moment cause of Hapa's early contributions.