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EmileZola

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January 29 2013 21:57 GMT

#1149

On January 30 2013 06:55 EmileZola wrote:
You're not the first person accusing me for my perfect reads. (supersoft)

but you're the first one in this game who actually sees that I was suspicious of thrawn 10minutes after i started playing this game :-)
Everyone else was like: " :-o why didn't you see that thrawn is scum?"

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 21:59 GMT

#1150

On January 30 2013 06:56 Vivax wrote:
He also wrote this earlier.

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Didn't look so sure about this when he posted the two filters from a town game and this game lol.

actually you have a reading comprehension problem:
I explained this earlier post in the post with the two filters.

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 22:04 GMT

#1152

That's the stuff that is getting on my nerves. Prom do you see how he fails to read correctly? Not only does he think VE is part of me, he also completely fails to put my posts in the correct order and most important, he completely fails to actually read the content of these posts.
This is actually not a scummove. Calling him stupid is also wrong, even though i want to call him that...
The correct label for this kind of players is lazy bum.

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 22:06 GMT

#1155

ah yes. These posts don't fit together, because the first one is from wbg and the second one is from me.

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 22:08 GMT

#1159

okay sadly you're just extremely lazy and you pick my posts out of the context.

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 22:25 GMT

#1163

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394344&user=296899

entire first page is supersoft (me)

second page is me exept for these:

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On January 27 2013 12:18 EmileZola wrote:
hi boys <3

i want to ask you all a few questions. i'm not understanding some things about both hapa and thrawn. but maybe your answers will help me figure out which one of them to lynch today. right now i maybe want to lynch thrawn a bit more. just a bit though.

when i voted hapa he delurked and said good morning. but if i am not mistaken he is american, and it was around 6:00 kst. why would hapahauli say good morning if it is between 1 pm and 4 pm in the USA? maybe he was actively lurking before i voted him. maybe he is scum?

second from what i have seen thrawn does not play very very lurky. i think he is scum. i would expect him to maybe call someone scum or do something by now but where is he? has anyone played a game with him where he afks like this?

thank you loves

On January 28 2013 08:20 EmileZola wrote:
last scum are in VE + Djo + ghost.

calling it now, we lynch these players and win. scum surrender gg

I don't remember who this was:

On January 28 2013 08:30 EmileZola wrote:
djo you just said you'd rather lynch for info over someone who you think is scum

it's day 1, you lynch for scum, not for info. every noob knows that.

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we were in irc back then.

page 3 starts with wbg,

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On January 28 2013 16:59 EmileZola wrote:

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If you're really a vig, Your whole move is dumb as fuck. Your targets are dumb as fuck except for ghost.
VE is 70% town, hapa is 80% town and I am 100% town.
You look like scum.
You ignored the thrawnlynch.
You refuse to read ghost.

If you don't hit scum tonight (I even told you who to kill to hit scum)
you're confirmed scum for me, or the shittiest player ever seen in this forum.

onwards it's me again

until wbg announces that it's him posting.

page 4 starts with one wbg post. The next posts are mine until wbg comes back and posts three times.
and the rest is me again
starting with this post until the end.
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On January 29 2013 23:20 EmileZola wrote:

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On January 29 2013 17:01 EmileZola wrote:

On January 29 2013 15:35 Djodref wrote:

On January 29 2013 14:34 EmileZola wrote:

On January 29 2013 13:44 Djodref wrote:

On January 29 2013 13:30 EmileZola wrote:

On January 29 2013 11:32 Djodref wrote:
@ supersoft

How did you not see that thrawn was scum from the beginning ?

ok, wbg here, and this post actually pissed me the fuck off as I was reading (and I wasn't planning on posting tonight since I still don't feel like I have made sense of everything)

First of all, we both almost immediately thought thrawn was scum. IIRC our first vote was on thrawn. I was afk and super did his own thing with VE and whatnot inbetween. I can't speak for him but I did feel like VE was acting strangely. (but I feel like that every game I play with VE, so whatever)

Secondly, the fact that this is coming from YOU is fucking aggravating. YOU did not see thrawn was 100% scum from the beginning, because YOU put your vote elsewhere.

Yet, you put the accusation on us for apparently not finding thrawn scum from the beginning? Bullshit, YOU didn't, not us.

I didn't put my vote on thrawn but I suspected he was scum from the beginning and I said it as soon as I entered the thread. I was more interested in pushing active targets than thrawn to get more constructive discussion.
Anyway, no need to be pissed off like this, and from your actions it is not clear that you had thrawn as scum for the beginning. The vote on thrawn was very quickly unvoted and your whole plan is dubious.

it wasn't my "plan" and I don't think like super does. I've already stated multiple times that I was not around when super was doing his VE thing.

Hell, his logic was probably similar to yours-if thrawn is surely scum then let's get reactions out of other people.

I don't have a huge problem with that, but the fact that you're attacking super for basically doing what you did is hilarious. It shows how completely clueless you are.

I don't want to start a fight but being clueless is part of this game. Hell, your list, (I guess it was yours) just after thrawn lynch contained a total of zero scum (ve+ghost+me).
I have failed to show you that I was town and, if you guys are town, you have failed in the same way.
But let's try to find scum today rather than fight !

I could get behind a Sharrant lynch today. But I'm more interested in pushing xsksc now.
I also think we give Vivax too much leeway.

1. It wasn't my list

2. You shot ghost

3. We haven't failed, and I haven't call you scum, just stupid.

Arguing over this is stupid, but you have to understand that your play, if you are indeed a vig, was really reckless.

You put everyone into a high pressure situation for no particular reason and then shot a townie. Now we have to deal with the possibility you are SK because scum are probably never going to shoot you.

I wasn't kidding about what I said about how I would have played vig. I would have rather wasted my bullet by not shooting and potentially being a n1 scum kill than shooting a townie and bringing us closer to losing.

he actually meant your list, not mine :-D

(gonna label every post from now on. supersoft)

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 22:37 GMT

#1167

On January 30 2013 07:31 Promethelax wrote:
I have seen a lot of newer town players do exactly what you suggest (while x isn't new he hasn't been around for a while) they care about themselves because they foolishly believe that they are important to town. Half the people in the thread believed your shitty claim. Me and EZ seem to be the only ones who seriously thought it made you the serial killer.

Okay, you have scumthrawn on your team. Scum thrawn lurks even more than usual. A lot of people in the game know thrawn (me, Hapa and Imp especially, I think all three of us are town and I'm sure that at least one of the two of them is) the only solution when scumthrawn plays scum like that is to bus his ass to kingdom come. If I was scum with him I'd have the first vote on him. I'd be pushing him to exclusion of all else. Thrawn needed to die for scum to have a chance. The longer he was around the worse position they were in, I'd bet a good part of the latter half of day one he was around but not posting because we were so set on lynching him.

There was a timegap, where thrawn could have made a comeback... I am looking for a behaviourchange of people towards thrawn right now in that timegap... I believe in the end the scumteam voted thrawn for sure.. The question is, at which point of time was no hope left...

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 22:37 GMT

#1170

forgot to label. Sorry ^_^
(supersoft)

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 22:44 GMT

#1175

Vivax is just talking shit. I am town, that means if he thinks JX is an equal lynch he has no additional information.
He's just a snob.

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 22:46 GMT

#1177

On January 30 2013 07:45 Vivax wrote:
We should talk about other lynching options. A claim isn't supported if not by a lynch or a kill. Be it me or xsksc later. But it's not today.

Just know this: I got town back. But I don't know if it's a godfather. I'm rolling with town for now.

If you think I would use this timing to do something like this as scum, step ahead.

EPIC FACEPALM!!! AAAAAAAHHHHHHH

(supersoft)

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 22:50 GMT

#1181

miller makes sense in this setup...
I don't think Xckcs is GF.

Sharrant or JieXian

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 22:52 GMT

#1184

On January 30 2013 07:47 Promethelax wrote:
how did you not know that was what he was saying SS?

(also: which idiot keeps giving vivax dt powers?)

I understood very well. :-(
I wanted to give him an exit-option with this post:

On January 30 2013 07:44 EmileZola wrote:
Vivax is just talking shit. I am town, that means if he thinks JX is an equal lynch he has no additional information.
He's just a snob.

lol but he had said too much already :-(

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 23:00 GMT

#1189

On January 30 2013 07:56 Vivax wrote:
I can't answer to that Prom.

Sharrant shouldn't be lynched actually, his stance regarding thrawn looks really really townie. He has him as slight scum in his first post, but never is entirely sure of it so he can just lay back on an eventual (bus-)read.

Decided to take him from my scumreads now.

you mean this one?

On January 27 2013 05:06 Sharrant wrote:
Thrawn2112
This will be much shorter. His first post is entirely null to me, a fairly obvious joke post but I don't have much faith in my ability to tell whether the joke is forced or not. What's concerning to me is his lack of contribution afterwards, I'm used to Thrawn being a name I see pop up quite frequently in whichever game he is in, and he's thus far barely been in this one. I don't think this matches up with any of his previous playing styles however, so this is a very weak scum read.

actually I think this is pretty scummy... Think about it. You're on the scumteam and one of your teammates gets called out multiple times for inactivity, but he still has no votes.
The scumminess is undenyable BUT there is hope left that he comes back and plays his normal townmeta.

It actually doesn't harm him if you post a paragraph like sharrant did. It's just save scumplay. You don't push your teammate, but at the same time, you didn't ignore what's going on.

Jiexian on the other hand completely ignored the thrawntopic when he came into the thread. Would you completely ignore this discussion or would you rather post something like sharrant...

I am not finished reading the thread, but right now (page 25) i'd rather say it's sharrant...

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 23:16 GMT

#1198

I am going to bed now, too.
I'll wait for wbg and throw a consolidated list out there. I think we have a ridicously high chance to end this game by d3-d4...

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 23:27 GMT

#1202

wait wtf Vivax claimed cop?!

the fuck is this game lol

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 23:33 GMT

#1206

I'm going to assume Toad is dumb and rolled a setup without jailkeepers/medics.

1. He refers to jailkeepers in the OP but lists medics instead

2. He refers multiple times to RBs done by jailkeepers, but again, #1.

3. There were no RBs n1.

If he did indeed want medics then the balance of the setup might be a little bit off but we'll see, that's really only relevant postgame.

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 23:34 GMT

#1208

there's a C9++ wiki page on mafiascum but it's not going to be that useful I don't think.

Your claim was dumb btw, possibly even dumber than Djo's.

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 23:35 GMT

#1209

can we policy lynch vivax for this?

I'd really love that

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 23:40 GMT

#1212

whatever, I'm not going to argue about this shit because Vivax suffers from illusory superiority. Either it was a bad claim or something happened between host and player that makes this stuff irrelevant.

EmileZola

France202 Posts

January 29 2013 23:53 GMT

#1216

On January 30 2013 08:42 Vivax wrote:
Yeah, there are a lot of questions you/supersoft didn't really answer yet.

You had JX and xsksc as not likely to be scum last time I think. SS put them as null.

I haven't responded for my reads because they're changing pretty rapidly and also I don't really have the time to explain them as much.

I'm confident in whatever super has said, as I agree with most (read: not all) of what he thinks.

For example I made an off-hand remark about VE + djo + ghost being scum before I reread following the thrawn flip. I didn't explain that very much and I probably could have, but actually within a few hours (even before the djo claim) my reads had changed.

I think Sharrant, for example, deserves more attention than he is receiving now. We also can't rule out Hapa/jay nor marv/yamato.

Hapa was excited to start the game (as town) and then disappeared. That in itself is particularly weird but his post structure and the way he communicated his reads seemed very similar to how he did so from Dessert.

I was between Sharrant and VE for another scum. I've already briefly stated my thoughts on him in a previous post somewhere.

Anyway, the claim is bad. Period. xsksc was not going to get lynched today I'm pretty sure. I would have defended him, for one. I haven't read the entire thread but I did not feel like he was under heavy pressure, and it's barely 24 hours into the day anyway (if I'm not mistaken) Obviously it doesn't make it a scum claim, and I agree that djo's claim is worse, but it's actually rather annoying that these types of things keep happening game after game.

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