Djo
Im bored and asking this for the sake of having something new to read when I press F5.

What do you make of Iampefection concerns regarding your setup speculation (top of p107)

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 03:57 GMT

#2139

[fluff]
I must have improved Prome, I feel like since I joined a lot of your posts are just re-summarising what I have been stating.

Im not disputing your a stronger player; just wanted a chance to gloat we appear on the same page

As an aside, im not sure how your logic double clears me?

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 04:28 GMT

#2141

Thanks for stating the obvious iamperfection.Let me join you in the stating the obvious parade

If JX is mafia & the game is over: We all hold hands, circle jerk and celebrate for being awesome town
If JX is mafia & game is NOT over; its between you and Djo for SK - will cross that bridge only if/when necessary.

&
If JX is NOT maifa; Im retiring from playing TL Mafia indefinitely.

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 04:32 GMT

#2142

P.S.
Since this JX lynch looks set; and we have 44hrs to pass before the cycle is over;

@Iamperfection
any reason why you consider Prom potential SK?

Is it just your keeping eyes open to all possibility, or
have you noticed something that is inconsistent with his (town-ish) approach?

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 05:06 GMT

#2150

Can we actually vote for smaller cycle?

##Vote: 12 hour day cycle (and if not possible)
24hour day cycle

&

On February 04 2013 13:47 Promethelax wrote:
Mocsta? maaaaaaaaaaaybe, but that would be a shit kill for mafia. They need the stronger townies dead and, no offense little buddy, you aren't one.

Please remember "Will you take me to the Prom"

It aint all about the size of the boat but about the motion in the ocean

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 05:16 GMT

#2153

On February 04 2013 14:11 Promethelax wrote:
I'm not sure what you implying. You have a small penis? I'm sorry man.

haha that made me laugh out loud.

But dont be sad; its OK

most women I know, would prefer sea food over horse meat any day

Or taking it to the next level, with the standard retort to small dick jokes.

nice of U to notice, so U a f a g or something ?

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 05:25 GMT

#2155

No further questions from me, will prob just come back in 40 hrs; everything else seems association/flip dependent.

JX is in my timezone, so its safe to argue hes avoiding the thread. (Mind you if I only had phone access @ day, I would be hesitant to write up a defense on the phone - but that is irrelevant)

Outcome Im really really bored, and no other mafia games to read

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 05:38 GMT

#2157

Well I already voted for JX, and disputed the medic claim.

But, you are my former coach, and its probably a good thing to do (to avoid the whole jampidampi/Sylencia thing again).

K, will give a thought process read later tonight. Too hard to filter dive @ work.

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 05:52 GMT

#2159

Was a brain fart; was thinking of when I was disputing medic with Vivax. (as in reason for no kill)

I already disputed JieXian 1-shot cop.

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 06:33 GMT

#2160

LOLs doing a filter dive.

Started with Yamato to look for associations and found this pearler. Doesn't help the situation but funny as all fuck.

On January 24 2013 22:03 yamato77 wrote:

Show nested quote +

Scummy lies.

##Vote: Marvellosity

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 07:27 GMT

#2163

JX, can you please expand; I don't follow how the quotes imply "he still may be GF"

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 07:56 GMT

#2166

JX,

since you are here. Why do you think Yamato barely references you in his filter?
In fact, there are only two posts in his filter that reference either "JieXian" or "JX" (or variant)

(1)

On January 28 2013 07:34 Sharrant wrote:
...
Djodref is still null for me, and JieXian is pretty much my wildcard scum read. If it doesn't end up being Prom/VE/EmileZola I would expect JieXian to be in the team.

On January 28 2013 10:30 yamato77 wrote:
...
When I see a player give out this many null/potentially scum reads in one post, my scumdar goes off. ...

This reads hugely noncommittal. He doesn't take a strong stance even on one of the players he considers to be part of his hypothetical scum team, he just waffles and says "I need to hear more from him."

He's also amazingly fluffy throughout his filter. I'd be up for lynching him tomorrow.

Interesting, Sharrant accuses JX of being scum wild card.
Remember who incessantly tunneled Sharrant? Why of course, Yamato77.

(2)

On February 02 2013 06:56 yamato77 wrote:
Well I can tell you one of Djo/Prom is SK. Prom far more likely, given that he waited until N2. But there won't be another shot until it wins him the game, so you should just lynch him.

Mafia could be any 2 out of you/Mocsta/JX at this point. Mocsta least likely.

Let me ask you, what have you done since lynching thrawn d1?

This statement is just a summary of the thread status quo at the time. i.e. as everyone else was "confirmed" the remainder is Mocsta/iamperfection/JX, this actually provides nothing new to the thought process.

Henceforth, I think its safe to say, Yamato77 never referenced you in the game.
Those two posts actually are not directed to you in any way, shape or manner.

If we consider that Yamato went out of his way to tunnel VE & Sharrant, and also respond to all other participants (except you).

@JieXian

Why do you think Yamato made a special effort not to reference you?

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 10:57 GMT

#2201

Seriously JieXian, your not doing yourself any favours.

On February 02 2013 00:22 JieXian wrote:
@Djo : My only confirmed town read is iamp, unsure about the rest.

& now

On February 04 2013 19:41 JieXian wrote:
I want to lynch iamp today.

Quite a stark change in read.
How did this transition occur?

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 11:11 GMT

#2202

As we know, this is your defense of Sharrant

On January 30 2013 19:00 JieXian wrote:
I wasn't sure about Sharrant earlier, especially since he has only 2 pages of filter but what sticks out to me is:

I don't think scum will bother posting that wall of text (not that he doesn't have a point) about VE if he was going to be shot anyway

Apparently you defended him because you got a cop check on him?

These are the subsequent posts in your filter: Ctrl+F "Sharrant"

On January 30 2013 19:02 JieXian wrote:
If either Sharrant or Jay want's to lynch me for lurking they'd have to look at the number of pages in their own filter compared to mine and proceed to lynch themselves first.

Sounds to me, your having a dig @ Sharrant, even though hes meant to be confirmed town?

On January 30 2013 19:32 JieXian wrote:
If not for the miller claim we might be all over Yamato because he has only 2 pages of filter, like Sharrant.

Problem is, Prom claims he had played like this before (uninvolved) as miller so he's in the same safe boat as Djo atm.

Again having a dig @ Sharrant, but apparently he is confirmed town? When are you proposing he is GF.. your not!

Then you have the case against Vivax
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394344&currentpage=66#1310
Oddly enough, you decide to defend Sharrant here (even though you just been digging into him the past 2 posts)

Vivax points on you pretty much confirm you as scum anyways.

Key Points

He is scum because of the DT claim? Yet you never mention yourself as DT to contest it.. What the? Isnt the way to oust a claim, by counter claiming; there is none of this?
Then you accuse him of thinking GF about xsksc.. yet, when you got green on Sharrant, you still treat him like scum? When do you accuse him of being GF.. wait.. you dont
Then there is the interplay with Thrawn.. most importantly.. you even admitted you voted on him purely as a pressure vote.
On January 30 2013 21:42 JieXian wrote:
Yes I did. What seems to be the problem? Heard of a pressure vote before?

JieXian, I hate to be so cocky, but I think you might as well concede as well. The evidence is not in your favour.

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 11:46 GMT

#2205

Touche: Good pick up Promenade

Thats why your the coach, and get paid the E-sports bucks.

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 12:16 GMT

#2207

I thought you said before that you like it?

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 12:17 GMT

#2208

*sigh* Vivax, I was hoping I would be confirmed by (hopefully decent/good) townie play, instead of setup speculation.

Will take it regardless.

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 12:26 GMT

#2210

Well I dont see it as buddying, i thought it was a good pick up and didnt actually consider it myself, hence I felt the need to go +1.

But whatevs.

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 13:09 GMT

#2212

On February 04 2013 21:37 Promethelax wrote:
Why is it a good pick-up? What does it mean? Are you still sure JX is the last scum? Don't just +1 something. Explain what has changed about your reads to me.

On February 04 2013 20:31 Vivax wrote:
Mocsta would be the first SK to choose cop immunity. So he's confirmed now.

On February 04 2013 20:46 Mocsta wrote:
Touche: Good pick up Promenade

Thats why your the coach, and get paid the E-sports bucks.

Your seriously over-reacting. For me, because Im VT, I never considered that I could get green check due to SK. What you said is valid logic. Hence "good pick up". Its pretty straight forward what I wrote, and your not misconstruing it, but you are definitely over reacting.

Mocsta

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February 04 2013 13:24 GMT

#2214

As for part 2, do I doubt JX?

I want to doubt him.

The lack of opposition again is always scary. But then again no one opposed Yamato either.

Some of the things we said could be interpreted as town-ish, but then when i filter dive, it comes unstuck each time.

e.g.

If he said he was VT, i would have a much higher chance to believe him than the cop claim. Vivax is a fuckn weird detective (as per Mafix LIX), but JieXian play in general just doesnt match a cop.
His commentary on his "cop" read post-check, does not match typical behaviour after a check.
Its reads almost as if, hes woven a story based on the latest happenings in this game (i.e. references to GF etc etc).
I posted that Yamato never references JX. His retort was that he was constantly calling out Yamato for lurking etc. If anything, this is another strike for JX.

      - When Vivax calls out JX; JieXian is quick to respond.
      -When EZ/jay/prom etc calls out Yamato; Yamato responds.
      -When JX calls out Yamato; yamato stays silent.... that doesnt look good to me.
He goes from iamperfection being his only confirmed town read, to willing to lynch him. All based on "taking a chance".
Thats quite a U-Turn and for me, the excess nail in the coffin.

So to answer your question: JX has made a semi-compelling defense & I have tried to review his findings as openly as I could. However, the story just does not stand up to close scrutiny.

P.S. when a medic makes a save; I believe both KP recipient, KP originator & medic all receive save notification.
Hence, cop would be the only blue role he can claim, as this is the only role that does not notify additional person(s).

But still woulda been an awesome mindfuck in the future, to claim medic save on scum, and withhold shot. Will have to log that into the memory banks