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EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 28 2013 23:33 GMT
#1025
also if sharrant really is a mislynch opportunity then it makes sense from a scum yamato perspective.

He called VE town repeatedly prior to his death and also pointed out sharrant being scummy.

Not sure what to think of it atm so gonna do some heavy rereading. I'll probably be back later today after school.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 28 2013 23:55 GMT
#1030
On January 29 2013 08:54 Promethelax wrote:
Because he was the strongest town player in the game? I'd have shot him as scum too.


interesting...
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 02:02 GMT
#1055
On January 29 2013 10:56 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 10:48 Promethelax wrote:
On January 29 2013 10:42 Djodref wrote:
On January 29 2013 10:09 Promethelax wrote:
My notes are on my computer but I have sharrent looking scummy and Yamato less and less townie. Also Hapa2.0 is a concern, 1.0 was, to my great surprise, a slight town read but there is so little to go on there. JX is on the scummy side of null and you djo are still scummy in my eyes.


scummy scum or scummy SK ?


well that is the problem, your play suggests scum and your actions vig/sk. There is a reason you were the least scummy of the lot. I can't figure out how your play as a whole fits with town/sk/scum


I'm confirmed vig/sk for a start. Also my claim yesterday was pro-town, I have been antagonistic because you guys were pissing me off and I wanted to gauge your reactions.
And I don't see how you can see me as scum when I called thrawn out the first after VE's joke. Did you really read day one again ? What do you make of JieXian voting thrawn in second place behind iamp ? Please explain me how do you see the bus.
Same for you Vivax, explain me how and why JieXian has bussed thrawn yesterday.


actually your claim wasn't protown.

[00:52] <MommyDearest> so djo can still be SK
[00:52] <@supersoft> oh yes
[00:52] <@supersoft> he might be SK
[00:52] <@supersoft> true true
[00:52] <MommyDearest> see
[00:52] <MommyDearest> what I said about being a vigi
[00:52] <MommyDearest> I would have waited till n2
[00:52] <MommyDearest> even though I thought ghost was scum I would not have shot him n1
[00:52] <MommyDearest> better to waste my power than shoot a townie AND get shot IMO
[00:53] <@supersoft> yes
[00:53] <@supersoft> absolutely
[00:53] <@supersoft> that claim and shot was really bad.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 02:24 GMT
#1057
it's pretty easy. As a vig, you don't claim night 1. You wait until you have a really safe shot and pull the trigger. That would have been the correct move.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 02:43 GMT
#1062
Djodref, you are one of the players who is getting on my nerves.

You don't read carefully and ask questions that have already been answered.

"How did you not see that thrawn was scum from the beginning ?"

what kind of question is this? What is your goal with it?
Not only was I the first player who voted thrawn, moreover I explained why I unvoted him and started to push his lynch in the perfect moment, 4 hours before the lynch.

Now I reposted, what I already explained here:

On January 28 2013 04:11 EmileZola wrote:
okay I think it's time to clear some things up:

Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 00:57 EmileZola wrote:
haha, i don't understand why a fellowtownie would refuse to help me a little bit with a short summary


by that moment i had already read the thread.

Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 06:42 EmileZola wrote:
there is also one additional reason, a reason i will tell you in exactly 22 hours from now on.


the main reason was, that i wanted to move my vote away from thrawn.
I was believing thrawn was scum:
thrawn is playing WAY different compared to his last towngame, where he did well.

Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 20:56 EmileZola wrote:
I am pretty sure that thrawn isn't lurking... I think he's just afk.


i wanted to cozy thrawn around a bit, to see if he shapes up without pressure.
Because if a player shapes up with pressure it's hardly a town/scumtell.

I wanted to give thrawn the chance to come in the thread and play his normal meta and convince me that i was wrong about him in the first place, since he's a good player and I refuse to lynch good players early.
However, he continued to be useles..

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 03:38 EmileZola wrote:
telling you in 30 minutes


I wanted to provoke VE a little. Because he tends to rage hard as town. He didn't react to my vote, but he already raged before. I think VE is more likely town.

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
FUCKING SERIOUSLY?!


:-)

now back to thrawn:

Scum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394344&user=83569

Town: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955&user=83569&currentpage=5


and here:

On January 29 2013 03:45 EmileZola wrote:
[20:58] <supersoooooo> ^_^
[21:01] <supersoooooo> ahm
[21:02] <supersoooooo> how long does it take to organize this channel ^_^
[21:02] <supersoooooo> did you follow the thread?
[21:02] <supersoooooo> i wasn't at home, but i catched up pretty quickly, since the game has only like 10 pages...
[21:03] <supersoooooo> sharrant and ghost haven't posted yet. Thrawn has small 2-3 posts
[21:03] <supersoooooo> hapa has 1 filterpage
[21:04] <supersoooooo> vivax, iamp, prom have 3 pages, djodref has even 4...
[21:05] <supersoooooo> there is no pressure in this town. Marvel quit and VE never has a plan
[21:06] <supersoooooo> i think a townhapa should be able to create a better atmosphere than this
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> sry
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> I wasn't getting
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> notifications for this
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> I think
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> thrawn is 100% scum
[21:30] <supersoooooo> yes. My plan is to cozy him around a little for the next 24 hours and get him lynched d1 if he doesn't shape up
[21:30] <supersoooooo> i don't want to put too much pressure on him
[21:31] <supersoooooo> i mean i want to give him the oportunity to shape up without pressure
[21:31] <supersoooooo> if he does that, i think he's town
[21:31] <supersoooooo> but if he doesnt, he's a really save choice for d1
[21:31] <@MommyDearest> ye



I don't know why you are derailing the thread with questions like that. I hate pointless discussions like that.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 02:45 GMT
#1063
On January 29 2013 11:40 iamperfection wrote:
will the peanut gallery be joining me in lynching xcvxvxsdxc?


(supersoft):

we have 44 hours left and I am not going to vote anyone before I reread the thread at least 2-3 times.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 02:51 GMT
#1066
i am not a brilliant player or anything. I am only diligent.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 02:55 GMT
#1068
On January 29 2013 11:51 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 11:43 EmileZola wrote:
Djodref, you are one of the players who is getting on my nerves.

You don't read carefully and ask questions that have already been answered.

"How did you not see that thrawn was scum from the beginning ?"

what kind of question is this? What is your goal with it?
Not only was I the first player who voted thrawn, moreover I explained why I unvoted him and started to push his lynch in the perfect moment, 4 hours before the lynch.

Now I reposted, what I already explained here:

On January 28 2013 04:11 EmileZola wrote:
okay I think it's time to clear some things up:

On January 27 2013 00:57 EmileZola wrote:
haha, i don't understand why a fellowtownie would refuse to help me a little bit with a short summary


by that moment i had already read the thread.

On January 27 2013 06:42 EmileZola wrote:
there is also one additional reason, a reason i will tell you in exactly 22 hours from now on.


the main reason was, that i wanted to move my vote away from thrawn.
I was believing thrawn was scum:
thrawn is playing WAY different compared to his last towngame, where he did well.

On January 27 2013 20:56 EmileZola wrote:
I am pretty sure that thrawn isn't lurking... I think he's just afk.


i wanted to cozy thrawn around a bit, to see if he shapes up without pressure.
Because if a player shapes up with pressure it's hardly a town/scumtell.

I wanted to give thrawn the chance to come in the thread and play his normal meta and convince me that i was wrong about him in the first place, since he's a good player and I refuse to lynch good players early.
However, he continued to be useles..

On January 28 2013 03:38 EmileZola wrote:
telling you in 30 minutes


I wanted to provoke VE a little. Because he tends to rage hard as town. He didn't react to my vote, but he already raged before. I think VE is more likely town.

On January 28 2013 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
FUCKING SERIOUSLY?!


:-)

now back to thrawn:

Scum: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394344&user=83569

Town: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955&user=83569&currentpage=5


and here:

On January 29 2013 03:45 EmileZola wrote:
[20:58] <supersoooooo> ^_^
[21:01] <supersoooooo> ahm
[21:02] <supersoooooo> how long does it take to organize this channel ^_^
[21:02] <supersoooooo> did you follow the thread?
[21:02] <supersoooooo> i wasn't at home, but i catched up pretty quickly, since the game has only like 10 pages...
[21:03] <supersoooooo> sharrant and ghost haven't posted yet. Thrawn has small 2-3 posts
[21:03] <supersoooooo> hapa has 1 filterpage
[21:04] <supersoooooo> vivax, iamp, prom have 3 pages, djodref has even 4...
[21:05] <supersoooooo> there is no pressure in this town. Marvel quit and VE never has a plan
[21:06] <supersoooooo> i think a townhapa should be able to create a better atmosphere than this
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> sry
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> I wasn't getting
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> notifications for this
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> I think
[21:19] <@MommyDearest> thrawn is 100% scum
[21:30] <supersoooooo> yes. My plan is to cozy him around a little for the next 24 hours and get him lynched d1 if he doesn't shape up
[21:30] <supersoooooo> i don't want to put too much pressure on him
[21:31] <supersoooooo> i mean i want to give him the oportunity to shape up without pressure
[21:31] <supersoooooo> if he does that, i think he's town
[21:31] <supersoooooo> but if he doesnt, he's a really save choice for d1
[21:31] <@MommyDearest> ye



I don't know why you are derailing the thread with questions like that. I hate pointless discussions like that.


Why do you need a plan like this ?


So you didn't read this stuff before right?

Why do I need a plan? Why not? There could have been other explanations for thrawns inactivity.

And just for the record: I answered your first question by quoting stuff i already posted hours and days before your question, right?
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 02:56 GMT
#1069
okay. End of discussion. This isn't getting us anywhere.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 04:30 GMT
#1103
On January 29 2013 11:32 Djodref wrote:
@ supersoft

How did you not see that thrawn was scum from the beginning ?


ok, wbg here, and this post actually pissed me the fuck off as I was reading (and I wasn't planning on posting tonight since I still don't feel like I have made sense of everything)

First of all, we both almost immediately thought thrawn was scum. IIRC our first vote was on thrawn. I was afk and super did his own thing with VE and whatnot inbetween. I can't speak for him but I did feel like VE was acting strangely. (but I feel like that every game I play with VE, so whatever)

Secondly, the fact that this is coming from YOU is fucking aggravating. YOU did not see thrawn was 100% scum from the beginning, because YOU put your vote elsewhere.

Yet, you put the accusation on us for apparently not finding thrawn scum from the beginning? Bullshit, YOU didn't, not us.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 05:34 GMT
#1106
On January 29 2013 13:44 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 13:30 EmileZola wrote:
On January 29 2013 11:32 Djodref wrote:
@ supersoft

How did you not see that thrawn was scum from the beginning ?


ok, wbg here, and this post actually pissed me the fuck off as I was reading (and I wasn't planning on posting tonight since I still don't feel like I have made sense of everything)

First of all, we both almost immediately thought thrawn was scum. IIRC our first vote was on thrawn. I was afk and super did his own thing with VE and whatnot inbetween. I can't speak for him but I did feel like VE was acting strangely. (but I feel like that every game I play with VE, so whatever)

Secondly, the fact that this is coming from YOU is fucking aggravating. YOU did not see thrawn was 100% scum from the beginning, because YOU put your vote elsewhere.

Yet, you put the accusation on us for apparently not finding thrawn scum from the beginning? Bullshit, YOU didn't, not us.


I didn't put my vote on thrawn but I suspected he was scum from the beginning and I said it as soon as I entered the thread. I was more interested in pushing active targets than thrawn to get more constructive discussion.
Anyway, no need to be pissed off like this, and from your actions it is not clear that you had thrawn as scum for the beginning. The vote on thrawn was very quickly unvoted and your whole plan is dubious.


it wasn't my "plan" and I don't think like super does. I've already stated multiple times that I was not around when super was doing his VE thing.

Hell, his logic was probably similar to yours-if thrawn is surely scum then let's get reactions out of other people.

I don't have a huge problem with that, but the fact that you're attacking super for basically doing what you did is hilarious. It shows how completely clueless you are.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 08:01 GMT
#1109
On January 29 2013 15:35 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 14:34 EmileZola wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:44 Djodref wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:30 EmileZola wrote:
On January 29 2013 11:32 Djodref wrote:
@ supersoft

How did you not see that thrawn was scum from the beginning ?


ok, wbg here, and this post actually pissed me the fuck off as I was reading (and I wasn't planning on posting tonight since I still don't feel like I have made sense of everything)

First of all, we both almost immediately thought thrawn was scum. IIRC our first vote was on thrawn. I was afk and super did his own thing with VE and whatnot inbetween. I can't speak for him but I did feel like VE was acting strangely. (but I feel like that every game I play with VE, so whatever)

Secondly, the fact that this is coming from YOU is fucking aggravating. YOU did not see thrawn was 100% scum from the beginning, because YOU put your vote elsewhere.

Yet, you put the accusation on us for apparently not finding thrawn scum from the beginning? Bullshit, YOU didn't, not us.


I didn't put my vote on thrawn but I suspected he was scum from the beginning and I said it as soon as I entered the thread. I was more interested in pushing active targets than thrawn to get more constructive discussion.
Anyway, no need to be pissed off like this, and from your actions it is not clear that you had thrawn as scum for the beginning. The vote on thrawn was very quickly unvoted and your whole plan is dubious.


it wasn't my "plan" and I don't think like super does. I've already stated multiple times that I was not around when super was doing his VE thing.

Hell, his logic was probably similar to yours-if thrawn is surely scum then let's get reactions out of other people.

I don't have a huge problem with that, but the fact that you're attacking super for basically doing what you did is hilarious. It shows how completely clueless you are.


I don't want to start a fight but being clueless is part of this game. Hell, your list, (I guess it was yours) just after thrawn lynch contained a total of zero scum (ve+ghost+me).
I have failed to show you that I was town and, if you guys are town, you have failed in the same way.
But let's try to find scum today rather than fight !

I could get behind a Sharrant lynch today. But I'm more interested in pushing xsksc now.
I also think we give Vivax too much leeway.


1. It wasn't my list

2. You shot ghost

3. We haven't failed, and I haven't call you scum, just stupid.

Arguing over this is stupid, but you have to understand that your play, if you are indeed a vig, was really reckless.

You put everyone into a high pressure situation for no particular reason and then shot a townie. Now we have to deal with the possibility you are SK because scum are probably never going to shoot you.

I wasn't kidding about what I said about how I would have played vig. I would have rather wasted my bullet by not shooting and potentially being a n1 scum kill than shooting a townie and bringing us closer to losing.


EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 14:20 GMT
#1118
On January 29 2013 17:01 EmileZola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 15:35 Djodref wrote:
On January 29 2013 14:34 EmileZola wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:44 Djodref wrote:
On January 29 2013 13:30 EmileZola wrote:
On January 29 2013 11:32 Djodref wrote:
@ supersoft

How did you not see that thrawn was scum from the beginning ?


ok, wbg here, and this post actually pissed me the fuck off as I was reading (and I wasn't planning on posting tonight since I still don't feel like I have made sense of everything)

First of all, we both almost immediately thought thrawn was scum. IIRC our first vote was on thrawn. I was afk and super did his own thing with VE and whatnot inbetween. I can't speak for him but I did feel like VE was acting strangely. (but I feel like that every game I play with VE, so whatever)

Secondly, the fact that this is coming from YOU is fucking aggravating. YOU did not see thrawn was 100% scum from the beginning, because YOU put your vote elsewhere.

Yet, you put the accusation on us for apparently not finding thrawn scum from the beginning? Bullshit, YOU didn't, not us.


I didn't put my vote on thrawn but I suspected he was scum from the beginning and I said it as soon as I entered the thread. I was more interested in pushing active targets than thrawn to get more constructive discussion.
Anyway, no need to be pissed off like this, and from your actions it is not clear that you had thrawn as scum for the beginning. The vote on thrawn was very quickly unvoted and your whole plan is dubious.


it wasn't my "plan" and I don't think like super does. I've already stated multiple times that I was not around when super was doing his VE thing.

Hell, his logic was probably similar to yours-if thrawn is surely scum then let's get reactions out of other people.

I don't have a huge problem with that, but the fact that you're attacking super for basically doing what you did is hilarious. It shows how completely clueless you are.


I don't want to start a fight but being clueless is part of this game. Hell, your list, (I guess it was yours) just after thrawn lynch contained a total of zero scum (ve+ghost+me).
I have failed to show you that I was town and, if you guys are town, you have failed in the same way.
But let's try to find scum today rather than fight !

I could get behind a Sharrant lynch today. But I'm more interested in pushing xsksc now.
I also think we give Vivax too much leeway.


1. It wasn't my list

2. You shot ghost

3. We haven't failed, and I haven't call you scum, just stupid.

Arguing over this is stupid, but you have to understand that your play, if you are indeed a vig, was really reckless.

You put everyone into a high pressure situation for no particular reason and then shot a townie. Now we have to deal with the possibility you are SK because scum are probably never going to shoot you.

I wasn't kidding about what I said about how I would have played vig. I would have rather wasted my bullet by not shooting and potentially being a n1 scum kill than shooting a townie and bringing us closer to losing.




he actually meant your list, not mine :-D
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 16:48 GMT
#1123
I think djodref is easily confirmable as town or SK.
If one other blue flips in the future and someone else is blue, djo is confirmed SK.
If not, he's confirmed scum.
The problem Djodref will solve itself. In the meantime I consider him so be town.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 20:35 GMT
#1129
Ahm, who is the setup expert here... How many scum do we have? 3? 4?
3 + 1SK? How many blues do we have?
What are the odds?
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 20:41 GMT
#1130
And if there are Masons, I want them to claim now please! Just do it!
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 21:09 GMT
#1133
On January 30 2013 06:01 Vivax wrote:
He was SO sure about thrawn being scum that he immediately put you into the same box as him once he saw something that even just LOOKED like it could be a defence of him.

Me and VE weren't sure of thrawn either. It's natural as townie to not be sure. JX was sure of you for a connection but not sure of thrawn? How does that make sense.


Why do you connect yourself with VE like that?
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 21:15 GMT
#1135
you seem to be concerned that your play doesnt look townie enought and therefor you show us that VE - the dead townie - plays the same.
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 21:24 GMT
#1138
okay yes. Thoughts on Hapa?
EmileZola
Profile Joined January 2013
France202 Posts
January 29 2013 21:55 GMT
#1147
You're not the first person accusing me for my perfect reads. (supersoft)
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