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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On January 27 2013 03:39 xsksc wrote: Good job taking my answer to prom out of context btw jiexian. ? Unless I'm missing something, you didn't have a single argument for your point, not even a weak one. That's not good at all. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
Can't decide if you're just and unfearful townie or an uncommited scum | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
On January 26 2013 14:30 xsksc wrote: Djodref but that's just a gut read and I have nothing solid. Prom asked a simple question and there was like 3 active players at the time. Djo struck me as more scummy than Hapa or Prom, but that doesn't mean I have a case on him. I don't see the problem - do you know what a gut reaction is? | ||
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
He sees scumslips everywhere. | ||
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Sharrant
Canada543 Posts
This will be my catching up post. Promethelax For starters, my strongest scum read currently is Promethelax. His first post was (as previously mentioned) quite useless. It was a fairly large post that says things that everyone in this game should know. It seems to be a post just to seem like he is saying something, granted it could come from a player frustrated by the last few games, but his followup posts make me read it as the former. On January 26 2013 09:08 Promethelax wrote: Okay, lets set some ground rules, no one tries to lynch Marv d1 unless Hapa, me and VE all agree about him being scum. We're the three who know him well in this group. A corollary is that we will lynch him in lylo no matter what. If he is town and scum want to take the risk of letting him live that long we can make that trade. Along with that we will kill lurkers and liars, I'm done with towns where those things are acceptable. I would like confirmation from those players who are here on this. People who play anti-town will also be lynched. We must make it so that townies cannot play in a scummy way, it is time for town to win a mini. We believe in capital punishment in this town. xsksc: tell me about yourself. What are your strengths and what are your weaknesses? In that quote he says that he is one of the three people in this group that know Marv well, but he immediately votes Vivax for his acceptance of Marv's uncontested Miller claim. Maybe I don't know Marv as well as I think I do, but I'm 100% sure that Marv would not gamble on a miller claim like that. There's a 40% chance that he just instantly dies, and I think he's far too good of a scum player to try a gamble like that, I would only expect it from a weaker player. There's too big of an initial risk, and with so many people knowledgable about C9 set ups it would be a huge risk later on as well. I can see no scum motivation for Marv doing this claim, it would only hamper him in the long run in my opinion. The fact that Promethelax was so quick to A) throw a vote on Vivax for coming so quickly to the same line of thinking, and B) throw suspicion on Marv's claim after saying how well he knew him makes me think he's just trying to spread suspicion however he can. I'm not sure how to take his conversation with Hapahauli about past games, I haven't yet had time to read them to find out which one is actually correct in their account of it, but it seems strange that they would disagree about so much of it. Not necessarily scummy, just strange at this point. On January 26 2013 20:02 Promethelax wrote: Clearly it does not make I p scummiest in my eyes. JX is scummiest. In the shower I had a thought he wants us to distrust Marc's miller claim. Scum want that. This is exactly what he had been doing earlier though, trying to make people distrust Marv's claim, so why is that only scummy when JieXian does it? I also don't feel he has been very active in pressuring lurkers, but he has at least commented on them, though it felt very out of place. Coming after such a hardline stance on lynching lurkers this also reads scummy to me. It may just be because it is sitll fairly early in Day 1, but I expect to see more later in the day or this will become increasingly scummy. I'm null on his post clarifying VisceraEyes statement because on one hand I do see it as a distinctly townie to try and clarify the thread and generate discussion, but I can also see the scum motivation in it. Because this is such a middle ground thing it weakens my scum read on him, but I'm comfortable enough to have a vote on him for now. ##vote: Promethelax @Prom: Do you still consider Vivax's posts scummy? How do you feel about VisceraEyes? What do you think of Hapahauli so far? Weaker/nullish reads Thrawn2112 This will be much shorter. His first post is entirely null to me, a fairly obvious joke post but I don't have much faith in my ability to tell whether the joke is forced or not. What's concerning to me is his lack of contribution afterwards, I'm used to Thrawn being a name I see pop up quite frequently in whichever game he is in, and he's thus far barely been in this one. I don't think this matches up with any of his previous playing styles however, so this is a very weak scum read. VisceraEyes On January 26 2013 17:35 VisceraEyes wrote: In this post he appears to be suspicious of prom for his vote on Vivax. What strikes me however is that if he's suspicious of Prom, he's basically telling Prom how to answer to make himself less suspicious. Why would he do this as a townie? As scum I can see reason for him to coach Prom through to the correct response regardless of Prom's alignment, but why would iamp do that as town? Especially given his response to my calling him out: This post struck me as quite scummy, because I cannot follow the logic in this post. He throws suspicion on IamPerfection because he cannot see the town reason to coach someone through a question. But where is the mafia motivation? If he's coaching another mafia member in the thread, why not just tell him in their QT? If he's coaching a townie, well, why? He's either lowering the suspicion on them, or making the question null. It seems more likely to be a mistake in my eyes, so Viscera trying to paint it as scummy is suspicious to me. @VisceraEyes Do you agree or disagree with my thoughts on IamPerfection's post? How do you feel about Promethelax's post clarifying what you said? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
@Sharrant Here was my problem with iamp's post. Why would he explain his problem with Vivax' play if he were really interested in clarifying Vivax' position? It's counterproductive: if Vivax is scum and iamp town, then he just gave Vivax instructions on how to alleviate the suspicion on him by way of telling him why his vote was "weak". It leads me to believe that iamp isn't actually interested in Vivax' answer at all. This explains why he hasn't commented on Vivax' response, incidentally. Possible scum motivations can include wanting to shed a scummy light on Vivax, hoping to push a mislynch on him. He could be feigning activity by continually asking people if they're serious. He could be scumbuddies with Vivax distancing from him by accusing him, but giving himself a way out of voting him. There are any number of reasons why scumIAMP would do what I'm accusing him of, and very few town reasons. I can't even think of any town reasons. Now, in response to your questions: I can't find anything in your post to agree or disagree with aside from you thinking my post is scummy. I uh....disagree that my post is scummy? What's even scummy about it? I don't understand why I have to be scum because you disagree with my suspicion. Can you not think of a town motivation for me making a case against someone and voting for them? Do you KNOW something about iamp's alignment that I don't? Promethelax clarification was, in fact, what I meant. I didn't see it and didn't respond to it, but looking back he's right in what I found suspicious about iamp's post. Djodref dumbed down my accusation unfairly and Prom corrected him. Like you, I find this null. | ||
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EmileZola
France202 Posts
##vote: Hapahauli | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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EmileZola
France202 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
##Vote: EmileZola On January 27 2013 00:41 EmileZola wrote: hey guys, what did I miss? On January 27 2013 00:48 EmileZola wrote: no i didn't thats why i am asking you?! On January 27 2013 00:57 EmileZola wrote: haha, i don't understand why a fellowtownie would refuse to help me a little bit with a short summary Someone too lazy to read has no place in this town, and is very likely scum. | ||
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
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EmileZola
France202 Posts
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EmileZola
France202 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On January 27 2013 03:02 JieXian wrote: Hapa is uncharacteristically quiet (so is Vivax, though Vivax isn't as quiet) I WONDER WHY We live on the opposite sides of the world ya know - gotta get my sleep and all. Regarding Thrawn He's the only other guy I'm concerned about right now. He's lurky as scum, and has been doing the same so far. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On January 27 2013 06:42 EmileZola wrote: there is also one additional reason, a reason i will tell you in exactly 22 hours from now on. Not interested in playing this game. Tell us, or I'll be lynching you. | ||
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EmileZola
France202 Posts
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
On January 27 2013 06:42 EmileZola wrote: there is also one additional reason, a reason i will tell you in exactly 22 hours from now on. whaaaaa? | ||
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
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