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On February 01 2013 08:26 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2013 14:53 Promethelax wrote: Djo: are you a single shot or multi shot vig? @ PromCould you tell me why you asked me this question ?
because if you said multi shot I was going to lynch you there and than for being the serial killer.
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On February 01 2013 08:22 Vivax wrote: Prom, you're 1-shot yes?
unless you want me to tell you I'm sk I only have one answer to this question. But yes, I am single shot.
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On February 02 2013 01:18 Mocsta wrote: hmm the *only* problem I have with Vivax is an issue EZ rose before being killed.
Why would scum kill EZ instead of DT?
*This same problem just arose its head in Mafia LIX as well*
Do I need to give you the step by step of why his claim could only have come from a one-shot dt? I'm quite willing to do so but I thought you weren't an idiot so I bet you can figure it out. I mentioned it to Bugs in passing and tried not to make it too obvious but assuming Vivax is not retarded (which he really isn't, he is over confident but that is his only problem) his claim could not have come from a multi-shot dt. Assuming scum team is not retarded they noticed the same things I noticed.
The way things stand: Djo VIG/SK (impossible to be scum) Me Vig (impossible to be scum) Imp IC or playing the game of his life as scum Vivax dt slips Mocsta VT/GF Yamato Miller/Goon JX ain't got shit
we should be able to win by lynching down the line of Yam>JX>Mocsta the only way we lose really is if djo is SK and we kinda just have to hope on this one. We have two lynches left or three if we hit at least one scum in the first two. We need to lynch Yamato. I was waffling on my shot last night between Yam and Shar. Super had Yam as his highest scum read. The last minute Yam push on the day Jay got lynched should have happened. yamato is scum. I've tried to get him to fight with me a lot this game going so far as to actually say "you wanna fight?" and his has been diplomatic and shitty. He hasn't contributed to town anything where he usually does something he thinks is useful. Here he hasn't even done that. Its time to forget the unverified claims and lynch the guys who are scummiest for their behaviour.
##Vote: yamato
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I've been working under the assumption that one V us a single shot vig here and VV is two single shot viggies.
if we're at VVMC (which I doubt) we'd theoretically have TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer but if we have a serial killer we're only at VMC which has TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker in all likelyhood this set-up is VVC vs. TTTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker so final set-up would be 2 one shot vigs 1 one shot cop 7 VTs vs 2 goons 1RB
which means Moc is confirmed town if yamato flips scum. We obviously have no doc because anyone not protecting EZ last night is a fucking retard. EZ was the only scum shot in this town and he/they were obvious townies.
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If no second kill I think I'd take JX. I'll reread after deadline and see between JX and Imp (who will be the only guys not confirmed by set-up to be town) In terms of my gut right now I'd lynch JX though.
I can almost guarantee that I'll be shot next. I am 100% not mafia and I have the most following of anyone in this game. I am more innocent than Imp for once and he could still theoretically be pushed as a lynch while I can't until all the scum are dead.
If all the scum are dead and we're still playing you need to look at everyone again. If I was sk and two town viggies had shot N1 and N2 I would hold my shot and wait til lylo. So don't auto-lynch djo on the assumption he is the sk in 2-1 if all scum have been eliminated. Make sure to think about it.
DO NOT TRUST THE SETUP SPECULATION TOO MUCH. This is not a totally normal C9++ according to toad.
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What Djo said above me is a very good point Goon Goon RB knows that there is a maximum of four town letters. So safer to fakclaim than if there were the usual GF-goon-RB setup also makes it less risky to bus your RB day one since you know there aren't many power roles.
Look at dessert where on day two or three the scum knew there was no medic based on the mason flip and dt flip and their own set-up
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also, unrelated to the set up. Marv knows full well that I have said many times I will lynch him in lylo no matter what that I am willing to lose a game there as town because I'm much more likely to win it as town because a town marv alive in lylo is much more likely scum than town. He also knows I am often overly suspicious of him (see CT where I was the only guy calling him scum) and that I know him better than most on these forums. With a miller claim he gets away with a lot of inactivity blamed on LIX and we don't suspect him. He knew that Hapa, VE and I were all town and he knows we know him and know mafia pretty well. I'd say miller claim was a risk he'd take.
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I'm an sk? What? I've missed your signature stupidity Yamato. Why didn't you grace us with this sooner, too scum to do anything?
Imp, you are not set-up confirmed. Sucks to be you (HAHAHAHA its you and not me for once)
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I also wouldn't need to be if everyone didn't freak about how good my scum play is after one scum game six months ago. I have no idea if I could even play scum well anymore. Its one of the reasons I want to roll red eventually, I need to see if I'm any good at the damn game.
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have you met the kid? the only case he knows how to make is reading all of someone's posts and calling them stupid.
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pretty much yeah, thats useful.
Or you could reread and help me find the last mafia.
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My kill was bad bro, I hit town. Should have gone with my instinct and hit Yamato but I had this mental image of Marv calling me a jubjub for shooting a claimed miller and decided sharrent made more sense.
JX why are you just sheeping me this game? I hate sheeps and people who buddy me. I'm not good enough to be steeped and I'm to good to be buddied.
Imp, you wanna show you ar e town? You keep saying you are a nerfed IC but somehow I'm not seeing it this game. You stopped trying to figure things out. Which is how people know you are town and how they should know I am town. You are spending your time saying you are town instead of being town. Remember who did that first?
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I would enjoy some juicy claims. Or some vanilla ones, you know me I like set up.
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now I just feel stupid for not shooting him last night. I'm rereading day one/day two. Talk to you guys later.
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JX I need to to claim as soon as you get online again. This is of vital importance to me. You are my sheep so do as I say.
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Umm..can scum concede please? There are four set-up confirmed non-scum. I am out of bullets and if djo is sk and wants to survive he has to pretend to be out of bullets so no anti-town night kills are going through. Tomorrow we lynch JX and day after is Imp. Game is over. GG.
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Well yeah, I'm town bro. I hope you are never on my scum team dude, you suck at scum.
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Djo, I know you looked at set-up. Tell me why I know what I know.
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Pretty sure mafia set up was 2goon and RB. Last scum probably JX, 26 hours gone too long for town. I expect to die tonight. EZ: how you like it? You pushed a town lynch while I pushed scum lynch. Boom! If I can ill try to find serial killer tomorro, if there is one its the only way we could lose.
Vivax, I wanna know what you think of things.
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errr...why didn't I die? I asumed I would die because of the remaining town players I am the strongest with a claim that makes me 100% confirmed not scum. Scum is really sure there is an sk I see and there almost can't be one with no kills tonight. That is, scum either held their shot thinking an SK would hit someone or they shot a BP sk (fun how this double clears mocsta).
IGNORE ALL SET-UP SPECULATION a 'nerfed town' could mean anything. And all of you saying scum could have a different set-up (+GF ,-goon for instance) are idiots. It was not a buffed scum team but a nerfed town. Which means we lost roles or our roles were made all one shot (which they were). It is time to look for scum and stop set-up speculating.
JX is last scum. His claim is shit. 1-shot cops claim when they get a check. Doesn't matter what the check is because you are useless to town. Only reason to not share the check is if you are insane, like vivax. Only reason to not share that you are one-shot cop is to try to get mafia to shoot you/waste RB on you by claiming as cop, this is what vivax did and it was fine play (though it didn't work). Additionally there is only one person pushing me as SK in this game, Yamato. Look at that connection. Even djo the 'other' town vig thinks I am town. No way is JX town.
##Vote: JX
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