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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 07:12 GMT
#711
On January 21 2013 16:08 annul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 16:00 Toadesstern wrote:
I think he is town and he's decent. Short enough?


Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 15:06 Toadesstern wrote:
Sandro >>>>>>Annul/gonzaw/prplhz/chez/Toad >>>>>>>>> everyone else


oh i see, so you think the declared candidates in that list (me, gonzaw, chez) are not town?

I didn't know who five and the wbg smurf were at that point in time... Obviously would have included them as well had I known who they are.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 08:00 GMT
#712
Oh btw:
Could we get an update on the votecount somewhere?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 09:12 GMT
#718
On January 21 2013 17:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who is currently running for mayor other than the retards who want to lynch me?

do you have reads in textform or in form of colored names?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 18:35 GMT
#845
Apparently I am still voting gonzaw according to that voting post kurumi did, which is wrong. Anyways unvoted and voted myself :3

Don't make chez sheriff pretty pls.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 18:45 GMT
#849
and we're back to this again.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 18:51 GMT
#855
On January 22 2013 03:48 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 03:45 Toadesstern wrote:
and we're back to this again.

You guys are making it too fucking obvious for me to ignore.

Well I have no control over his actions
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 18:54 GMT
#858
On January 22 2013 03:53 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 03:51 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 22 2013 03:48 yamato77 wrote:
On January 22 2013 03:45 Toadesstern wrote:
and we're back to this again.

You guys are making it too fucking obvious for me to ignore.

Well I have no control over his actions

One of you is almost certainly scum, and I'm inclined to believe you both are.

I am inclined to believe Vivax isn't.
I know I am not.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 19:06 GMT
#864
On January 22 2013 04:05 sandroba wrote:
vote for ft then, i want to elect austin as sheriff

you traitor
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 19:20 GMT
#869
On January 22 2013 04:07 yamato77 wrote:
If it means blocking the scummy toad/vivax combo with their stuff I guess it's worth it.

Make fucking sure those two do not get elected. No fucking idea why they're acting the way they are.

well it's not going to be vivax + Toad at all.

Five is going to become mayor, it's only about the sheriff.
You said youself you're probably wrong about me due to bias, also we got gonzaw, Sandro and five (kind of, he never said I'm mafia and he chipped in a bit when you said I'm mafia together with everyone else) saying I'm pretty certainly town. Other people like austin apparently agreeing as well.

So if it's just one of us, because it's only about the sheriff role and not the mayor. Would you be good with that or are you really back to "Toad + Vivax have to be mafia" ?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 19:31 GMT
#871
And just to make it clear: Right now Chezinu is 2nd in votes...

Without a reason I'd say
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 20:40 GMT
#891
yeah thought about him being Syllo as well.

Gonzaw vote me! You know it's the right thing to do :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 20:45 GMT
#893
what if I post something that makes me almost certainly town for everyone and also a damn good candidate for being sheriff. Should I do that and would people be voting me if I did it?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 21:49 GMT
#928
wtf vivax. Don't vote chez he's the most unreadable guy around...

And I'm pretty sure it's easier to get a 5th vote on me than on chez. I could just tell Sandroba to vote me...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 21:53 GMT
#930
On January 22 2013 06:49 Toadesstern wrote:
wtf vivax. Don't vote chez he's the most unreadable guy around...

And I'm pretty sure it's easier to get a 5th vote on me than on chez. I could just tell Sandroba to vote me...

or gonzaw... the guy is still voting himself...

There is not a SINGLE reason to have chez come in second.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 22:04 GMT
#934
gonzaw vote me now :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 22:40 GMT
#952
On January 22 2013 07:20 austinmcc wrote:
Toad. Tell me why I shouldn't be worried about your coy/cryptic question when you were so willing to out your role in LV in order to be mayor.

? what are you talking about?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 22:42 GMT
#953
On January 22 2013 07:36 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 07:32 FiveTouch wrote:
On January 22 2013 07:28 austinmcc wrote:
On January 22 2013 07:20 FiveTouch wrote:
On January 22 2013 07:12 austinmcc wrote:
On January 22 2013 07:09 Chezinu wrote:
On January 22 2013 07:08 austinmcc wrote:
How come nobody is going after the wank-fiend's vote?

?

The hammer is my penis.

The wank-fiend is Annul


It's encouraging that you're bringing annul up, on my read through this evening he came up as quite possibly mafia to me. He focuses in on Vivax, who is remarkably easy to attack as either alignment. He's done this at the expense of anything else, despite complaining that he's being ignored.
I can't help but interpret "it's encouraging that..." as the verbal equivalent of petting a cat or dog for a successful trick. Can't figure out how I feel about that, except that I like the image.

Annul's just kind of an anomaly at this point. He IS focused on vivax/toad and, to a lesser extent, axle's posting. He's got more than a page of filter, way more than other players who have been inactive, but it's mostly forgettable. I'm always surprised to see that there's a next page for him. That said, I'm not even sure I'm at "quite possibly mafia" on him. I don't know him or his play well, but if he's scum then his lack of presence on D1 in a mayoral game feels off. I'd expect him to be trying to get SOME kind of control over things, unless all of the candidates are equally meh.


To the highlighted, that's an issue that I've been struggling with your alignment this evening, so for my read on you it's a good sign you're bringing up annul.

The last time I saw annul play he seemed more involved, for better or for worse. The fact he's been more irrelevant this game is certainly not anything approaching a town-tell, as you seem to be suggesting.

Yeah, that's what I'm suggesting. It's pure speculation, but I WOULD assume that if one/multiple of the more veteran players in this game rolled scum, they'd be trying to exert control over the votes. It seems like there's been enough variety in candidates, but still with a few main vote-getters, that scum can't just be sitting pretty all day not having to do a thing.

Me bringing up annul shouldn't count for anything alignment-wise. I'm just noting that Chezinu is courting votes from a couple people who seem to be lurking, and Toad was courting Gonzaw's lone vote. Neither of them courted Annul, who has both a lone vote AND is relatively lurky. It wasn't bringing up his play, wasn't comparing him to the Liquid City game, but just noting that his vote was sitting all alone and yet neither of them were speaking to him.


it's just that most vets assume that annul could very possibly be mafia right now and not worth the fuss unlike other people who are so obviously town.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 22:50 GMT
#955
On January 22 2013 07:44 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 07:40 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 22 2013 07:20 austinmcc wrote:
Toad. Tell me why I shouldn't be worried about your coy/cryptic question when you were so willing to out your role in LV in order to be mayor.

? what are you talking about?

This post:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 05:45 Toadesstern wrote:
what if I post something that makes me almost certainly town for everyone and also a damn good candidate for being sheriff. Should I do that and would people be voting me if I did it?
which I took to at least be HINTING that you had a role or something, or maybe trying to draw shots by hinting that, compared with:+ Show Spoiler +
On May 27 2012 21:19 Toadesstern wrote:
Lol game started and it's already 6 pages. Anyways Mayoral Campaign before anything else here we go!

I plan on running for mayor


The 2 major aspects of my candidacy:
  • I am awesome d1
  • I am unreadable according to pretty much every vet on TL except for syllo


Point 1 is easily proven (not gonna lie, cpy & pasted):
+ Show Spoiler [d1 reads from my last 5 games] +

L: Erandorr, turned out red.
Next one: Sandroba, turned out red
AC: Schworz My one big failure, but that guy fakeclaimed DT and told people he got a red check on my mod-confirmed bodyguard in a game without framers as a townie, lol. Ever since that happened I just completly lost myself and derped the game.
Storm: RoL, WBG, VE RoL was the strongest read but he basicly claimed mafia in the thread so that doesn't count. WBG flipped mafia, VE flipped SK, pick one of those
C9++ #2: VE, guy flipped mafia

I feel like I forgot a game as townie and I'm pretty sure my main mafia read that game was wrong as well but don't know for sure, so just take these.

So as you can see my best d1-read is usually incredible good while I myself have no idea why. I am having huge troubles to explain what I am seeing in people when I am a townie which led to the believe that it's my intuition, which again, was proven horribly wrong when I attempted to play AC completly on the fly, just by intuition. And everyone knows how that game went :p
I'm not saying the people I listed above got lynched d1 but that I told people those are my strongest reads d1 and noone wanted to lynch them because I wasn't able to explain why I wanted them lynched properly which sounds weird for most people (understandable) because it could just as well be a mafia who does not want to explain his reads because he knows they're wrong.
So basicly: Look at that statistic. I am going to give you mafia or at least not-town d1 unless some jackass townie fakeclaiming DT and a red check on a modconfirmed green comes along screwing my radar and pissing me off.

About point 2:
I think I am reeeeeeally good when getting mafia. Not because my mafia play is incredible good but because I think I am really good at making it look exactly the same way my townplay looks. In general vets (except for syllo) told me my mafia play is good. WBG claimed VE and I did the best action TL-mafia has ever seen from a pair of mafias in LI. Rad keeps telling me I'm unreadable and so does WBG. Most of the times people play with me for the first time as mafia they think I am pretty much confirmed townie. Remember the Annul disaster? I was a mafia and Annul asked people in the thread who is the most likely / best townread in general and people (like Rad) said it's me resulting in me getting a free day-vig shot as mafia. That's not because I'm good at playing mafia but I am incredible good at making it look like a townie no matter how retarded the situation might be. Doing mistakes on purpose because I think my town-self would do the same mistake in that situation and being very transparent as mafia. People have a really hard time figuring you out like that.

So I'm probably going to have a really hard time to make my alignment clear because people are giving me a really hard time due to my play as mafia. I'd usually say the way to figure me out is derpage or reads but since I told you that I can at least fake derpage myself.




So you might ask yourself: wtf Toad. Why are you telling us you're scary as mafia? Fear not for I am not mafia this game and I will have a hard time proving that because people think I am unreadable. So let me propose we solve both issues at once. You make me mayor, I give you a dead mafia d1, you will be at ease for a moment unless all the jubjubs appear telling people "well that could be Toad bussing his buddy d1!!!!!" until I make you lynch into my next strongest read again :p

So basicly my candidacy is based on lynching whoever I think is the best shot we have at getting anti-town. That will most likely not be the guy town in general wants dead but someone most people will agree on, that he's looking suspicious.
If I lynch into some guy that town thinks is the most suspicious that's not an alignment tell at all (for you guys) unless I was heavily pushing him myself, rendering the plan useless


That's it, reading the thread now :p
On May 28 2012 03:40 Toadesstern wrote:
Screw this, don't feel like explaining why I am town, because I don't need to LOL

I'm fucking modconfirmed townie. And this is not some Toadi-confirmed this is hands down modconfirmed.

I am a Mason and there is no Anti-town role that can produce a mason result according to our OP. I can tell who I wish to mason once n1 has started and once I did that I can talk to the guy. I assume that means talking to him once d2 has started.

I can mason ANYONE I WANT meaning I can confirm this and as mentioned there's no mafia or 3rd party role like that.
Now you might ask yourself: "But toadi, what if you are mafia and faking this by outing 2 mafias (you and your "masonbuddy", not to mention that that would be completly retarded from a mafia point of view but whatever)? We can't be sure if you really are a mason at all!"
I am an awesome mason. The most awesome masons of them all, meaining I can choose a new "target" every night, meaning I can reproduce that confirmation every night if you wish me to.

If you believe I am mafia fakeclaiming, fine lynch me if I'm not telling the "truth" d2, I'll flip town and you lynch the guy who said "wait, toad said he masoned me but I did not get a mason-thingy!" afterwards and you get a mafia.
If I am town I'm telling the truth and can prove it d2, which means I'm going to be shot n1 again, but I'm counting on that anyways so might as well take a mafia with me and I will.

That's it. Vote me pls ❤


Both big mayoral games. In LV you went big out of the gate, posting a campaign. Within like 7 hours of that, you claimed your mason recruiter ability, and did a lot of your campaigning based on the fact that you were blue and could ensure your townieness by masoning folks.

You've got to admit that you're little "What if I did this?" question is cryptic, and perhaps I just interpreted it differently than everyone, but I couldn't help noticing that it was very much unlike LV when you campaigned on your role.





oh yeah well I took a lot of criticismn for my play in LV. I was obviously town in that game, everyone knew it but I was still causing way too much confusion so I'd tried to not do the same again this time around.

But since you already posted it... it's obviously the same thing again :p
Sandro doesn't think I'd have the balls to play like that as mafia and thinks I'm pretty much confirmed town, although he seems to be paranoid because he hasn't figured out the mafia vet yet, which means there's got to be someone out there.
I'd say it's chez or Annul but neither I nor him are sure about it.

So yeah, make me Sheriff pretty please, don't let Chez get in second and while I disagree with Sandro, I'd probably have the balls, I'm apparently looking very townish because of it.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 22:57 GMT
#959
gonzaw willing to make me sheriff based on that information?

I want that position so badly now that I see it's actually possible to get it
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 21 2013 23:16 GMT
#965
On January 22 2013 08:14 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 08:08 austinmcc wrote:
Vivax,

Given that you seem to want toad with bodyguards, and toad wants toad with bodyguards, but does not want Chez with bodyguards, why keep your vote on Chez?


I try to lie a lot and attract attention to me by playing inconsistently so that I can lead my scumbuddies to victory obviously, why do you ask?


Until Toad gets another vote you'll be sheriff top candidate if I switch to Toad (you still are cause you got majority first I think). So my vote stays where it is. Pointless question, I already said why I switched to Chez before.

I'm writing a JX analysis.

Gonzaw already said he's willing to vote me if he's not getting mayor...
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