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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 15:16 GMT
#757
Btw

5touch for mayor
Gonzaw for sheriff

Nuff said
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 15:22 GMT
#760
5touch I agree with a prplhz lynch.

He hasn't scumhunted. He has dedicated himself to defending himself with previous games and making no contributions to the town
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 17:24 GMT
#792
Austin

I would rather stutters be vig shot. He is lurky as town also and hasn't contributed much as town in the games I've been with him. He's one of those hard to read guys.

A lynch on him doesn't give us much to work with even if he is scum due to his lurkiness
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 17:36 GMT
#796
On January 22 2013 01:23 Vivax wrote:
I don't care if the elected roles are smurf, they have to be vets, and they have to be trustworthy.

Gonzaw isn't trustworthy for shoveling shit at me for being absent after my candidacy like JX did + trying to be overly politically correct to everyone.

austin isn't trustworthy for using artificial reasons to defend JX and picking stutters as lynch candidate.

Austin used the argument: "Slight paranoia is townie" cause he wrote something about a Toad jester. Austin clearly didn't give a shit about JXs alignment from the start. That's my interpretation. FT already pointed out that this was a mistake.

Seriously, stay the fuck away from gonzaw and austin. I'd rather have Chezinu mayor than these two.


On January 22 2013 01:55 Vivax wrote:
FT for mayor, that's out of discussion. Screw austin and gonzaw, they have to stay in put positions.

Just make me his second hand and this town is set for victory.


Those two statements are a huge contradiction
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 17:47 GMT
#802
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 22 2013 02:37 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 02:05 austinmcc wrote:
Okay, I'm done with this nonsense. The #1 trend I see in Stutters town play is that he won't vote and he'll get modkilled.


He's an inactive player and yet you want to lynch him for inactivity? What?


Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 15:35 debears wrote:
On January 21 2013 15:32 mkfuba07 wrote:
On January 21 2013 15:26 debears wrote:
On January 21 2013 13:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 21 2013 13:21 yamato77 wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:14 yamato77 wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:03 Vivax wrote:
## Vote Sandroba

If he's town, he won't be killed and be of great use.

If he's scum, he won't be able to hide it for long in that position.

Don't choose based on some mood. Even if sandro doesn't want it, a good town should want him in that position.

I don't like austin, I don't like gonzaw. Clarity didn't post his reads and he's usually not the guy who wants to take the lead. Voting Chezinu, are you fucking kidding me?Oatsmaster? Nah.

Vivax wtf kind of post is this?

Vote for a guy who doesn't want to be mayor, with really shitty "if he's scum" logic. There's never a good reason to give a free lynch to a player you don't have a really good town read on. You're proposing to trade the office of mayor, with the protection and the powerful synergy with mason roles, for a read on a single player that can easily be ascertained otherwise.

Why do you seem to care so little for who becomes mayor if it isn't you? You "don't like" Austin or gonzaw, but you don't say why. You seem ready to discredit Chezinu on a moment's notice, when I see him as a valid candidate.

This is not constructive town posting, Vivax. You've done very little but worry about your own image so far this game and it's worrisome to me that you're reacting so negatively to people not wanting to elect you.

Yes, Toad, this is totally me just saying Vivax doesn't think like me and is there for scum, you got me.

I think I did a pretty good job equating what he's doing with this post to scum motives in posts in my filter, and you brushing it off as him not agreeing with me is retarded and a malicious misrepresentation. You're just trying to make me look bad and get me angry at the same time.

Do you honestly think Vivax would be send out by his (supposedly) mafia team for a candacy as mayor?
Do you honestly think Vivax would be so carefree as mafia to candidate for mayor and not post for the next *idk* bunch of hours?
Don't you think Vivax would have been way to scared to candidate for mayor as mafia? Especially given his recent game as mafia that he, against all odds still won due to massive town modkills.
Do you honestly think Vivax would be dropping a vote like that if he has multiple people in irc / QT / whatever to ask on who to vote? With that "reasoning" he provided? Sure it's bullshit, it's one of the most retarded posts I've seen in this game so far but do you really think he'd do that as mafia?

Mafias think about what they're posting and while it might happen that they slip it is an incredibly far fetched assumption to believe team mafia would send out someone like vivax, who is a very new player, who isn't particularry known for being good as mafia + Show Spoiler [anecdote] +
remember YANMN? He was busted on d2 or something like that and got 2 more spare days because we had debears claiming SK in the thread and modkills that made people think it's better to no-lynch once to get one more cycle in case Vivax SOMEHOW ended up flipping town
to stay in the open, getting heat from everyone and do all that on purpose?

You've got to be kidding me if you think those are mafiatreats.


This is wrong. So wrong. Vivax had an extensive mayoral post written up before the game, as shown by how quickly he posted it after daypost.

His mayoral election run is a null tell

But the fact that he posted it so quickly after the game started is, to some people, indicative of his towniness. I agree with them. A scum player would likely wait to post, until after he's discussed it in the QT. I don't think it's 100%, but it has me leaning town for him, and nothing has particularly tipped him back to scum yet.


Scum has nothing to risk from him running and everything to gain. He looks like he cares about town with it. Everyone will disregard him because he doesn't have good reads as town.

As town, he cares about town. He wants to become mayor despite his reads



Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 15:43 debears wrote:
Gonzaw

Do you honestly believe a town vivax would see himself good enough to be a good mayor?

Hell I purposely didn't post a mayoral election because I decided it wouldn't be beneficial for town when there are vets who are much better than me


So is running for mayor as a townie who knows he's bad actually a townie sign or not? You can't seem to make up your mind >_>


I can't decide between gonzaw and Fivetouch as mayor for now.



It's a null sign normally. But the fact that Vivax keeps pushing his candidacy is troubling to me right now, especially when he's pushing himself over Gonzaw AND Austin.

I would doubt both Gonzaw and Austin are scum
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 17:49 GMT
#803
Austin

Would you lynch stutters over sandroba right now?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 17:58 GMT
#814
On January 22 2013 02:54 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 02:47 debears wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 22 2013 02:37 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 02:05 austinmcc wrote:
Okay, I'm done with this nonsense. The #1 trend I see in Stutters town play is that he won't vote and he'll get modkilled.


He's an inactive player and yet you want to lynch him for inactivity? What?


Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 15:35 debears wrote:
On January 21 2013 15:32 mkfuba07 wrote:
On January 21 2013 15:26 debears wrote:
On January 21 2013 13:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 21 2013 13:21 yamato77 wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:14 yamato77 wrote:
On January 21 2013 09:03 Vivax wrote:
## Vote Sandroba

If he's town, he won't be killed and be of great use.

If he's scum, he won't be able to hide it for long in that position.

Don't choose based on some mood. Even if sandro doesn't want it, a good town should want him in that position.

I don't like austin, I don't like gonzaw. Clarity didn't post his reads and he's usually not the guy who wants to take the lead. Voting Chezinu, are you fucking kidding me?Oatsmaster? Nah.

Vivax wtf kind of post is this?

Vote for a guy who doesn't want to be mayor, with really shitty "if he's scum" logic. There's never a good reason to give a free lynch to a player you don't have a really good town read on. You're proposing to trade the office of mayor, with the protection and the powerful synergy with mason roles, for a read on a single player that can easily be ascertained otherwise.

Why do you seem to care so little for who becomes mayor if it isn't you? You "don't like" Austin or gonzaw, but you don't say why. You seem ready to discredit Chezinu on a moment's notice, when I see him as a valid candidate.

This is not constructive town posting, Vivax. You've done very little but worry about your own image so far this game and it's worrisome to me that you're reacting so negatively to people not wanting to elect you.

Yes, Toad, this is totally me just saying Vivax doesn't think like me and is there for scum, you got me.

I think I did a pretty good job equating what he's doing with this post to scum motives in posts in my filter, and you brushing it off as him not agreeing with me is retarded and a malicious misrepresentation. You're just trying to make me look bad and get me angry at the same time.

Do you honestly think Vivax would be send out by his (supposedly) mafia team for a candacy as mayor?
Do you honestly think Vivax would be so carefree as mafia to candidate for mayor and not post for the next *idk* bunch of hours?
Don't you think Vivax would have been way to scared to candidate for mayor as mafia? Especially given his recent game as mafia that he, against all odds still won due to massive town modkills.
Do you honestly think Vivax would be dropping a vote like that if he has multiple people in irc / QT / whatever to ask on who to vote? With that "reasoning" he provided? Sure it's bullshit, it's one of the most retarded posts I've seen in this game so far but do you really think he'd do that as mafia?

Mafias think about what they're posting and while it might happen that they slip it is an incredibly far fetched assumption to believe team mafia would send out someone like vivax, who is a very new player, who isn't particularry known for being good as mafia + Show Spoiler [anecdote] +
remember YANMN? He was busted on d2 or something like that and got 2 more spare days because we had debears claiming SK in the thread and modkills that made people think it's better to no-lynch once to get one more cycle in case Vivax SOMEHOW ended up flipping town
to stay in the open, getting heat from everyone and do all that on purpose?

You've got to be kidding me if you think those are mafiatreats.


This is wrong. So wrong. Vivax had an extensive mayoral post written up before the game, as shown by how quickly he posted it after daypost.

His mayoral election run is a null tell

But the fact that he posted it so quickly after the game started is, to some people, indicative of his towniness. I agree with them. A scum player would likely wait to post, until after he's discussed it in the QT. I don't think it's 100%, but it has me leaning town for him, and nothing has particularly tipped him back to scum yet.


Scum has nothing to risk from him running and everything to gain. He looks like he cares about town with it. Everyone will disregard him because he doesn't have good reads as town.

As town, he cares about town. He wants to become mayor despite his reads



Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 15:43 debears wrote:
Gonzaw

Do you honestly believe a town vivax would see himself good enough to be a good mayor?

Hell I purposely didn't post a mayoral election because I decided it wouldn't be beneficial for town when there are vets who are much better than me


So is running for mayor as a townie who knows he's bad actually a townie sign or not? You can't seem to make up your mind >_>


I can't decide between gonzaw and Fivetouch as mayor for now.



It's a null sign normally. But the fact that Vivax keeps pushing his candidacy is troubling to me right now, especially when he's pushing himself over Gonzaw AND Austin.

I would doubt both Gonzaw and Austin are scum


I don't get this. Why?

___

I like the case on pprlprlprlz and I'm voting 5touch because of that.


Unless the mafia sub in for both bodyguards, the sheriff and mayor cannot be nked until the bodyguards are taken down. That means that we should place good town players who are likely to get nked in the mayor and sheriff spots.

Vivax is not by any means a player at threat of being nked as town. He doesn't have good reads.

Austin and Gonzaw are two players that are nk targets as town and have good reads from what I have heard. I'd say either of them is a good choice for sheriff, with Gonzaw preferred
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 18:00 GMT
#818
On January 22 2013 02:58 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 02:49 debears wrote:
Austin

Would you lynch stutters over sandroba right now?

I would lynch stutters over sandroba right now + Show Spoiler +
GAH, I HAVE BEEN CALLING HIM STUTTER FOR A COUPLE POSTS BECAUSE I SAW THAT AND ASSUMED I WAS ADDING AN S. BAD WHOEVER CALLED HIM STUTTER, BAD!


I would lynched stutters over anyone right now.

I think it was Gonzaw, but whoever said they hate some vets getting leeway because "they always play like this" or "they'll be useful if they're town" was right. It's dumb, but we do it. I'm not even really looking at sandroba critically right now because I have that mindset. It's pointed out every game that he's lazy as scum, and he never seems to be NOT lazy as scum, but there's nothing he's doing that I'm worried about right now? He hasn't been SUPER active in the town games I've seen from him, bar bureaucracy I think. So for now he's just not on my radar as a strong read either way, and I'm not going to lynch someone who is in that position.

That's...a weird set of two people for you to pick.


So, you want to lynch a player who has known to barely contribute to town as town in his previous games (stutters) over a player who is highly respected as town and has not contributed (sandroba)?

Why is that?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 18:03 GMT
#820
On January 22 2013 03:00 Vivax wrote:
Well, JX. If you elected me into office that would give you a lot of townie points.

You have to understand that it's concerning when people think my low activity was scummy when they don't take my time zone into consideration.
And even if they did, there is no proper reasoning behind mafia posting a candidacy and then going lurky.

I obviously check people attacking me cause I'm town.

Yamato says I'm not a complete noob cause I kinda busted two of three scum D1 in an obs qt of a recent game. But I think I am getting too cocky.


Huh?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 18:11 GMT
#825
Vivax

HOW IS SOMEONE VOTING YOU FOR MAYOR/SHERIFF A FUCKING TOWN TELL?>>?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 18:15 GMT
#828
Ok. Gotcha on the meta part austin

Still.

How can you honestly lynch stutters over Sandroba based on play this game? What more contribution has Sandroba brought to the table?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 21:27 GMT
#914
On January 22 2013 06:22 Vivax wrote:
Toad, I think it's of vital importance that austin doesn't get a seat. If there is no extra supporter to elect you Chezinu is my next favourite over austin.


Why exactly is austin so scummy in your opinion?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 21:32 GMT
#920
Vivax you are yet again making me think this is too dumb to be town by you
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 23:35 GMT
#971
Gold all in my chain
Gold all in my ring
Gold all in my watch
Don't believe me just watch
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 21 2013 23:35 GMT
#972
You know there is a possibility for mafia masons right o.O
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 22 2013 02:02 GMT
#1079
As I said, Djo is likely scum :D
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 22 2013 06:46 GMT
#1139
All you people can't you see, can't you see
How your love's affecting our reality
Every time we're down
You can make it right
And that makes you larger than life
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 23 2013 01:12 GMT
#1413
Fivetouch and toad will survive tonight them

All town bodyguards must be killed before the mayor and sheriff are correct?

In other words, mafia have to wait a night if they kill me and oats (or if oats is scum) before killing fivetouch and toad correct?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 23 2013 01:17 GMT
#1415
On January 23 2013 10:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Debears, what do you think about Vivax's JX case? And my Gonzaw case?


Haven't looked at them o.O

I'll have a look though tonight hopefully
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
January 23 2013 01:31 GMT
#1425
The fuck?
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