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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 20 2013 15:06 GMT
#359
austinmcc,

your reason for voting yourself are the same reasons all 22 of us can regurgitate. So the point is moot. By elimination, your best judgement so far is Toad. Noted.

@Austinmcc
I would like your take on Vivax/JieXian i.e.
Do you support the pressure/vote campaign Vivax instigated against JieXian?;
Regardless of whether you support the vote campaign, can the action that Vivax took be attributed to town motive?
&
Please share your current top scum read, so that I can get a feel for your judgement in general.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 20 2013 23:08 GMT
#410
Hmmm tough.

I agree on chezinu. He needs to input more to the thread. I was expecting a lot more from him considering the reputation and kneepad job debears gave.

But i dont like at all voting austin off that 1post. To me either u fling your vote with wild abandon .or. Know something special i dont.. Cause for concern either way.

Having said that. I liked austinmcc answers to my questions BUT this came after you voted.

fivetouch
The other strong candidate .at least in toads eyes. Is gonzaw.
Assuming both are town. Whose reasonings so far are u going to stick with for a vote
and why..
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 20 2013 23:24 GMT
#420
At the start of the game. I dont see why they cant.

That is the easiest time to buddy up to people as far as i am concerned.


I think the q is valid. Between gonzaw and austin u have chosen austin thus far.. The reasoning being 1 post that made u feel like cuddles afterwards.
Is that how u vote for your politicians too?

Fact. Both have shared scum read insight since.your.vote. I want to know which candidates insight aligns best with you and why.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 01:18 GMT
#482
On January 21 2013 10:08 Djodref wrote:
Does yamato look town enough for you ? I could see him sherrif right now.


Why?
I haven't seen anything that sticks out as specifically pro-town. Perhaps you can enlighten me.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 01:52 GMT
#507
On January 21 2013 10:31 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 10:18 Mocsta wrote:
On January 21 2013 10:08 Djodref wrote:
Does yamato look town enough for you ? I could see him sherrif right now.


Why?
I haven't seen anything that sticks out as specifically pro-town. Perhaps you can enlighten me.


You aren't necessarily pro-town when you are town
Yamato sticks out, has strong opinions, looks emotionally involved and his main concern is to find scum. That makes him town in my eyes ^^


I have yet to see a sound reason to enlist yam as mayor/sheriff from your list.

Has strong opinions? That doesnt mean they are right, and certainly does not indicate if motivated to aid town.

Looks emotionally involved? So is susceptible to formal/informal fallacies

Main concern is to find scum? Is that not all our perceived concern Day1 - caveat: if playing active


For me, I like Austinmcc so far the best.
I like his approach to answering my questions, and felt some of the points he raised mimicked my thoughts.
Having said that, I am still waiting for more information to digest before issuing a vote.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 02:32 GMT
#554
I must admit, Oats is playing a completely different game to the one I just had with him where we were butting heads majorly.

I am going to read his filter in more detail when I have time, and see if I agree with him as a lynch candidate;

Overall, I am not sure why we are pushing a guy with some posts (Oats) instead of the 1/2 posters like Debears though?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 02:47 GMT
#568
On January 21 2013 11:34 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 11:22 DearestSnot wrote:
prplhz's lack of posting isn't that odd, it's 03:20 CET.

Why Vivax for elected position? Or Toad LOL

I wasn't talking about right now but in general. I do know that it's 3:20 CET.

About why me or Vivax: Because those two are pretty much confirmed town. I'm a bit more so than vivax but the paranoia is too strong in people.


I look at my opinion as impartial. I am not familiar with your meta, and read it directly as I see it.

Your methods in the first 12hrs boded well with me, but not enough I felt compelled to say anything.

However, your approach now, that you have seen a smidgen of light is off-putting. I cant tell if its because you are excited at a chance you didnt think you had though.. all i know is, it leaves a odd-vibe with me.


@all
Those with better meta-reads of Toad than me.. what do you make of him buddying up with Vivax? I thought Toad was adamant on not sharing town reads, because it was easy for scum to do? Now he is declaring Vivax as a top town read? Thoughts?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 03:05 GMT
#583
On January 21 2013 11:58 yamato77 wrote:
This game has turned into exactly what I didn't want it to.

A bunch of useless campaigning, some dumb town reads and a bunch of people sitting on an easy scum read.

Are all of you convinced scum are just sitting on their asses not trying to get themselves or others elected?


Keep up that attitude, and you will get my vote.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 03:08 GMT
#587
Strategy-wise.. whats more important for mayor/sheriff?

Having the two towniest fuckers voted in?

Or

having a towny guy known for good reads?


I thought we were banking on #2?

If its #1 its a whole diff ball game, and I would contest we don't need to consider Vets for the role.. if anything those are the guys who KNOW how to be perceived as town, especially Day 1.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 03:08 GMT
#589
On January 21 2013 12:06 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 12:05 Mocsta wrote:
On January 21 2013 11:58 yamato77 wrote:
This game has turned into exactly what I didn't want it to.

A bunch of useless campaigning, some dumb town reads and a bunch of people sitting on an easy scum read.

Are all of you convinced scum are just sitting on their asses not trying to get themselves or others elected?


Keep up that attitude, and you will get my vote.

Is this sarcasm, or are you serious?


Vote for mayor.. I can see why you thought it was sarcastic, but it was serious.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 03:15 GMT
#596
On January 21 2013 12:10 Toadesstern wrote:
There's reasoning behind it and noone of importance has an issue with it for a reason :3

I presume you are referring to vets as being the only people of importance.

Just remember, theres 22 votes and 2 spots. My vote means something; whether you want to acknowledge that or not.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 03:20 GMT
#599
@Toad, as I pointed out to Vivax personally.

It wasnt that he pressured his read (JieXian).. it was the method chosen to enable this pressure.

He did not qusetion JieXian at all (giving him the opportunity to mount a defense as you yourself just said is critical).. rahther he used him for his mayor campaign.. and was getting others to do the dirty-work for him.. This whilst directly sheeping sandrosa comment on JieXian.. it was fuckn suspicious behaviour. Im not sold on oats play.. but i see nothing wrong with him pointing this out either.

I dont see his butting heads with Oatsmaster as indicative of shit.. I was butting heads with oats last game.. he was town.. i was mafia.

If you want to play soggy-biscuit with all the vets fine.. but I want substantiated reasons why I should vote for *YOUR* recommendations..not just.. im a vet, do what i say...OR.. im a vet.. your opinion is not relevant.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 03:23 GMT
#603
On January 21 2013 12:18 Djodref wrote:
But I think we should privilege a player looking obviously town than a good player for sheriff. Hence my candidature


Noted that you followed up on Clarity not once, but twice.

Please indulge your scum read/lynch candidate if you were instated.

I would like to see some detailed insight too pls.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 04:25 GMT
#636
yamato.. i have to agree with toad on this one (unfortunately)

that listing was stupid, and contains all the active vets.

your trying to canabilize active players for whatever fallacies you choose.


I am suspicious of Toads motives currently; but there are also a bunch of people who have posted SWEET FUCK ALL in over 24hrs.. How convenient that we are canibalizing....


As for oats being scum.. I said I would read his filter. When I get home from work, I will do so.
Djo's points on oats, on first glance read well... but will make up my mind after filter check.


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 04:38 GMT
#640
@All Mayor Candidates

Are any of you willing to lynch Grush?

He is my best scum read so far, and i WILL share my vote with you, if you are willing to lynch him first.

His filter is full of fluff.

And his response to my question is still scummy as all fuck.
On January 21 2013 03:04 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 22:08 Mocsta wrote:
On January 20 2013 13:24 grush57 wrote:
Hello everyone.
I am town.
I am running for mayor, FOR STARSENSES!

##Vote: Grush57


@Grush57.. I have a problem, and your the man to fix it.

STARSENSES... Why are you unleashing your "famed" town breadcrumb so early.
1 Post in, and going for the trademark. This is scummy as fuck to me.

+ Show Spoiler +

On January 15 2013 05:32 Promethelax wrote:
But I think he is town, at first I thought the green starsenses was different than his usual bread crumb but I went and looked.

LVII
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 07:28 grush57 wrote:
AWWW SHEEEEEEEEEET.
I KNOW WHY TOAD CALLED ME SCUM
I FORGOT
STARSENSES.


Hero
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 06:00 grush57 wrote:
Adam, Tunkeg, Vivax and a vet is my bet on scumteam.
STARSENSES.


LVIII
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:29 grush57 wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:15 grush57 wrote:
Okay I just read the thread.. I'm going to go throw a vote on Hopeless.
##Vote: Hopeless1der

Comment on Palmar, Marv or BC in the meantime

Palmar- He was trolling and now he is being super op scumhunter. Now he is a good player so is that necissarily town?Idk, I don't think marv is scum but palmar has been wrong every time I played with him so far.
Marv- He just claimed cop, and I don't think eh should be lynched on D1.
BC- He is pretty inactive but he sais he will be back soon. He is a mega vet so I don't think we should lynch him while there are other MUCH MORE SCUMNMY LURKERS LIKE YOU HOPESS

Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.
Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.
Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.
[b]Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.[/b]
Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless. Get hopeless.

ALSO,

STARSENSES


so I'd say he is town. Just annoying not here town.



Because people freaked out last time.



Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 04:57 GMT
#657
On January 21 2013 13:51 gonzaw wrote:
Don't really know what to think of debears/grush; they are not making much sense and are kind of "trolling" with their votes and some of their reads, but that's too null to blindly lynch on D1.


Awesome next time i roll scum. I can troll and post fluff. Knowing im safe to day2 guaranteed.

Cheers...
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 04:59 GMT
#658
Damn phone. Didnt see blindly lynch.

K sorry for sarcasm
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 05:09 GMT
#666
On January 21 2013 14:03 grush57 wrote:
Mocsta would you rather lynch someone who is acting scummy or someone who posted "fluff".
People are discussing lynching me and if no one was scummy then I would definitely get lynched.
I just hate day1


Preferably someone fluent in both.

I dont think its black and white.

Playing scummy can fluff. E.g kush

playing scummy can not be fluff etc etc

and the only one raising your name to the bar is me.
Dont know why u think ur up for contention.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 05:12 GMT
#670
On January 21 2013 14:03 gonzaw wrote:
EBWOP:
Oh well nevermind.

Speaking of which Mocsta, what do you think of Stutters and Clarity? I don't remember you mentioning them in your filter.


Thats because i didnt.

When reading the filters was pretty empty. Perhaps thats a sign.

Will re read when i get home and share maybe 6hrs time
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 21 2013 05:26 GMT
#675
@gonsaw

toad gave reasons for vivax being town. I thought they were subjectve as fuck.
From memory the stand out reasoning was howw he could post his campaign and be active in qt if scum


there is no fcuking way vivax typed that first post afyer the game started.. It was premade and in no way is indicative of alignment. If toads disagrees wit this then his reads overall should be put into question.

Btw with a premade case...it might make sense to take a breather if u rolled scum and needed to plan.

But.. Why listen to me. Im not a vet and so to toad my opinion doesnt matter
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