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On January 24 2013 23:15 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 23:03 Toadesstern wrote: Okay I can get behind a oatsmaster lynch if you're that certain Palmar / whoever you are.
I've got to say I'm pretty damn certain Chez isn't town though... as long as people shoot him / BKE (priority on Chez) as vigs, if we have some we should be fine. We need to get somewhere and I'm trusting you on this one... I really think Chez would be the better lynch for today though.
##vote Oats Toad, could you please tell me why you're sure Chezinu isn't town? I don't have anywhere near that confidence. nah can't
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On January 24 2013 23:17 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 23:15 FiveTouch wrote:On January 24 2013 23:03 Toadesstern wrote: Okay I can get behind a oatsmaster lynch if you're that certain Palmar / whoever you are.
I've got to say I'm pretty damn certain Chez isn't town though... as long as people shoot him / BKE (priority on Chez) as vigs, if we have some we should be fine. We need to get somewhere and I'm trusting you on this one... I really think Chez would be the better lynch for today though.
##vote Oats Toad, could you please tell me why you're sure Chezinu isn't town? I don't have anywhere near that confidence. nah can't  oh just realized this kind of looks like me implying I've got a DT check or something like that. That's not the case :p
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On January 24 2013 23:31 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 23:25 Mocsta wrote: Toad.. .(or anyone)
With Chezinu.. any reasons you think he has been speaking coherently the past couple posts (i.e. not in Chez the brown riddles?) When things get too crazy, Chezinu goes sane briefly to clear the air. Or when people call me out too much. With just mommy dearest I could ignored it. But then you were questioning me too. Then there was the mason thing with reading the PMs wrong. I still have a win condition you know. why aren't you reading the thread?
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I have actually no idea what vivax is talking about...
It startet out with "Toad is 100% mafia. I'm willing to take full responsibility on that one" next thing was basicly "nah let's lynch Gonzaw instead because he's Toads mafiabuddy" then it was "I'd like to lynch mocsta", now it's "I didn't want to claim, let's lynch Gonzaw" again (did I miss something? what claim?), next is "If you're even remotely good at this game you should notice that yamato is scum by reading his play and his meta." and now he's off to vote FT because he's a mafiamayor, although gonzaw is confirmed mafia according to Vivax, together with myself, yamato and mocsta.
I have serious troubles understanding what's going on.
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On January 25 2013 01:32 FiveTouch wrote: Vivax, answer my question. It was a very simple one.
There's absolutely no reason to think I'm mafia; apparently I may have made the wrong call between Oatsmaster and gonzaw, and that's all there is to it. you have to live with that I guess.
A 66% chance to fail at protection (assuming WBG + gonzaw are town) is enough for Vivax to call me confirmed town based on the fact that it's just too unlikely that that could ever happen! I mean it's 66% after all!
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EBWOP in bold my bad, freudian slip I guess, as I was clearly not able to differentiate between reality and Vivax-world for a secon dOn January 25 2013 01:36 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 01:32 FiveTouch wrote: Vivax, answer my question. It was a very simple one.
There's absolutely no reason to think I'm mafia; apparently I may have made the wrong call between Oatsmaster and gonzaw, and that's all there is to it. you have to live with that I guess. A 66% chance to fail at protection (assuming WBG + gonzaw are town) is enough for Vivax to call me confirmed mafia based on the fact that it's just too unlikely that that could ever happen! I mean it's 66% after all!
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On January 25 2013 01:36 Vivax wrote: Toad, I was testing reactions with my extended knowledge about gonzaws alignment, the serious trouble you have is only dealing with the way I play, not with what I did.
I don't give a fuck if you lynch me to confirm I'm DT. I wouldn't actually mind that cause then you can proceed to lynch the right ones and I'm out of this derp town.
Obviously I would prefer if you lynched FT, yamato, Toad and probably Mocsta/Toad > austin/Chez/Bke etc.
Gonzaw can stay where he is for now, he's not going anywhere, posting anything, probably tried to manipulate the mason circles and can be lynched later.
Now we need to lynch the dangerous guys, namely FT.
see the thing is I know a bunch of powerroles, including a DT. I'm just having troubles to believe that right now.
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so justs to get this straight, he claimed DT and claimed to get back his alignment + roles, correct?
That should be easy enough to confirm, give me a sec.
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On January 25 2013 01:45 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 01:44 Toadesstern wrote: so justs to get this straight, he claimed DT and claimed to get back his alignment + roles, correct?
That should be easy enough to confirm, give me a sec. The fact is, he got back a check from N1 about something he's saying Gonzaw is doing D2. How the fuck does that work? I think they're both mafia. mafias can have multiple roles. So it could be a jack + mason mafia if he's telling the truth. I'm just doubting that you get roles when checking people oO
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oh actually screw that it says so in the op
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so you get back roles only, which means you found a jack + mason and not a jack is that correct? because the first one would be a confirmed mafia besides not knowing his alignment.
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yeah... no idea why he's so cryptic about it lol
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On January 25 2013 01:50 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 01:47 Vivax wrote: I don't know if gonzaw was mason today or yesterday night, that's what I ended up believing.
I asked the host about that and a few bunch other things but he's been ignoring all my questions this game.
Given how scum is riding on that point it was rather yesterday night I guess. The way mason works this game is that you choose a person to mason with for a whole cycle, not day or night, but both. If he shot someone last night as you claim, he would have shown up as mafia jack vig, not mason. The mason would have had to begin today, and you wouldn't get that check back. no, jacks don't show up as what kind of power they used. They show up as "jack", not as "jack vig" or "jack mason". If he got a "jack mason" he found someone with 2 roles.
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On January 25 2013 01:53 Vivax wrote: Yeah, Toad is scum.
You didn't reveal who you masoned. FT didn't reveal who he masoned. Gonzaw was a mason.
Toad lied about the DT cause he would know that the DT would know about the role.
And what you're asking for is in the picture. Mafia jack mason. Without saying whether it was the previous cycle or this one.
well that's a lie. Your role only gives roles and not alignments according to the OP so you would only get "Jack Mason" and not "mafia jack Mason".
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We asked you for what your check was like 3 times and you didn't answer. You just said it's what's in the picture. It can't be what's in the picture because the OP says otherwise.
Just stop playing against your wincon in case you're town and spit out what you've got.
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On January 25 2013 01:58 Vivax wrote: You lied about you knowing a DT if you don't know this. I didn't ask him how his role works... nor am I in contact with him...
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On January 25 2013 02:00 FiveTouch wrote: It's likely, if we assume Vivax is telling the truth, that gonzaw was given both Jack and Mason from within the team. So that makes sense at least.
Vivax is assuming it was gonzaw's extra shot on Night 1, but doesn't actually have confirmation. Is this correct, Vivax? yeah guess that's what we're at...
Would be way easier if the dude would just spit it out himself isntead of blabbering for 3 pages ...
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well then we lynch gonzaw, looks pretty easy to me.
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On January 25 2013 02:03 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 01:39 Toadesstern wrote:
see the thing is I know a bunch of powerroles, including a DT. I'm just having troubles to believe that right now. Then you better start explaining this. you seriously want me to claim another DT in the thread? Might as well claim the other role I know, right?
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On January 25 2013 02:03 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 02:01 Vivax wrote: I suppose gonzaw shot N1, there are no mafia vigilantes.
I don't have confirmation on that, it's a theory I have cause he is the jack. Ok, but this means he has other powers to use. You wouldn't have received back mason unless he was one of the mafia's permanent masons, I think. exactly what I'm telling him as well but he doesn't understand
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