Happy australia day to all. Im too shit faced to add anything meaningful other than bugs list is stupid.

And im severely disapointed toad agrees with that list.

E.g why is axle <1% scum....that is stupid.
Bugs was jailed n1 so its not like he was a green check.

Right now im for bke.

As for 2nd vote. I would go annul.
If annul is mad hatter we take out chezI who could be scum
if annul is bullshitting than we take out a scum

looka like win win to me.

P.s. If u think im scum e.g fuba build ya case. find it convenient fuba calls me and yam svum AFTER bugs lidt comes out listing me and yam as 50/50. Very convenint.

Fuck it. My 3 for scum is

bke
mkfuba
chez or annul

im voting bke plus fuba.

I got more bbq tomorrow so dunno how active i will be.
Bye gaiz

Mocsta

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January 26 2013 19:42 GMT

#2856

Fuck all of u and ignoring me. The convo atm is bullshit, and its not because I woke up with a headache and dry mouth @ 3.30am

(1) Fuba

On January 27 2013 01:02 mkfuba07 wrote:
Anyway, I've decided that neither of you feel like scum to me, mostly based on general activity as well as voting (yamato) and something Chezinu said (mocsta). That might change if Chezinu doesn't flip red, but I'll get to that when I get to it.

Explain what Chezinu said....

(2) Annul vs Chez

On January 26 2013 22:19 Mocsta wrote:
As for 2nd vote. I would go annul.
If annul is mad hatter we take out chez who could be scum
if annul is bullshitting than we take out a scum

I thought the whole point of mad hatter was to become a thread influence and risk being shot; thus taking out someone... if Annul play is aimed at being a thread influence, I might as well give up on playing mafia cos I must be the retard..

(This is my assumption on how to play mad hatter, I am happy to be corrected on this)

Mocsta

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January 26 2013 19:55 GMT

#2858

On January 27 2013 04:31 Chezinu wrote:
I just discovered what starsenses means.

What?

Mocsta

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January 26 2013 20:06 GMT

#2860

On January 26 2013 11:09 annul wrote:
toad: how many town masons do you know of right now?

Are you doubting someone that contacted you? Maybe FT is worth asking, he has been contacted by others?

Mocsta

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January 26 2013 20:14 GMT

#2863

I need the Grush (town) heuristics dumbed down for a non-vet.

I dont get why him contacting one person and never again as indicative of town play; nor why it rules him out being scum?
Yes, as scum it would be poor play; but why can't that be the intention?

Hes signfiicantly more active in the ongoing Dessert mafia, why is he excused in this game from exhibiting signs of life?

Im trying to improve, so would really like an answer to this please (whether here or in obs qt), as I am definitely missing a piece of the puzzle.

Mocsta

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January 26 2013 20:18 GMT

#2866

OK thanks for that.

Importantly i appreciate the addition of he needs to be engaged, just not a priority for today.

I can work with that.

Mocsta

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January 27 2013 03:14 GMT

#2952

Im guessing vivax got a grewn check and assumes godfathet.
Hence the being coy

Mocsta

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January 27 2013 03:15 GMT

#2954

Adam now that u have caught up. And have a view that is not tainted from being in the moment

A few have put me as 50/50. What is ur take.

Mocsta

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January 27 2013 05:40 GMT

#2956

Hmmm agree on town

disagree on heuristic though.

Any alignment can break up a fight.

Adam. Pls share thoughts on annul. As in if assumed town. Why!

Mocsta

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January 27 2013 05:42 GMT

#2957

On January 27 2013 12:15 debears wrote:
yamato is the red check obviously

I only havr phone access today.
But i dont recall vivax stating he got a red check..

Hence i assume he got green and wants to pressure to determine if godfather.

Mocsta

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January 27 2013 07:16 GMT

#2959

Adam.. just a general question to figure out your mind set now that you have settled in.

You called me town before, lets reverse the situation.

You say "Mocsta felt town, but now Im leaning scum"

I say to you "well Adam... we have nothing left to discuss"

what is your read on the situation?

Mocsta

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January 27 2013 07:58 GMT

#2965

tsk tsk Annul.

you spoil all the fun.. why o why could you not wait for the answer from Adam?

its not like I implied you directly in anything.. how curious your motives.

yes I am a mason.. but why o why do you need to interject in this manner.. curious motives INDEED.

Mocsta

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January 27 2013 08:31 GMT

#2966

Mocsta

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January 27 2013 08:40 GMT

#2967

damn double posts

Mocsta

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January 27 2013 08:54 GMT

#2969

lol.. you knew where it was going, why were u scared of the outcome enough to need to cut in?

As for Chez... Im surprised with your vet insight that you have not put two and two together:
I am the mason that suggested to FT that Chez may be town due to the knowledge he possessed of me during night 1.
I still think I would have been a better candidate than JX for a NK. Nothing said by Bugs persuaded me away from this.

So moral of the story is.. if you want to continue pretending to scum hunt - keep thinking I am red. If the above post is all your justification, the riposte above is weak at best and a waste of time to read at worse.

Mocsta

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January 27 2013 09:23 GMT

#2974

LOl Annul.. what an odd reaction from you

I thought it was scum who was too lazy to filter search?

My approach has stayed consistent.. yours on the other hand.. well theres a fair bit to say. You are over-reacting to small situations, now even going OMGUS into a vote. Thats not consistent with town motives Annul. Not in my book at least.

On January 26 2013 09:58 Mocsta wrote:
(2) To all doubters of Chez being town due to PM because he may have convinced the masons he was town... before that post, everyone was saying Chez is unreadable, hence its VERY unlikely he convinced anyone he was town... so considering that, it doesnt make sense to me for the mafia to have kept the two masons alive (or at least one of them instead of JX) when they had two masons that most likely thought NULL of Chez

As for your random insert of Mad-Hatter

On January 26 2013 22:19 Mocsta wrote:
Right now im for bke.

As for 2nd vote. I would go annul.
If annul is mad hatter we take out chezI who could be scum
if annul is bullshitting than we take out a scum

looka like win win to me.

I still think this is the best course of action all The way Annul has reacted to my prodding, is completely over the top. If he isnt lying we take out Chezinu potential, and if he is lying then we have taken out scum.

AND.. if you want the PM I sent to FT regarding Chez before Night 2 ended here it is to confirm my thoughts on Chezinu

Mocsta: Subject: chezinu innocence
Date: 1/25/13 23:49
Hey. Last pm from me before cycle finishes.

I had a brain wave and wanted to pass it by u. If u agree with logic and i die tonight u r welcome to post this in the thread.

Day1 two masons contacted chez.
Day2 the same two masons contacted u.

U think both masons are town... If chez was mafia. Why werent me and the other mason killed?
Neither of us would have a chance to communicate we contacted chezinu.. So would be easy one or two blue kills...

I thought of this because someone suggested jx may have been an attempted blue snipe. If chez was scum it would make sense in my mind to hit me instead of jx...hence i think chezinu is now innocent.

P.s thanks for listening to my rambles on the pm . I enjoyed this cycle a lot. Good luck with day 3

Mocsta

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January 27 2013 13:55 GMT

#2991

Hey Axle, thanks for the detailed attempt at a meta.
(Sorry for the rant below, but this is kind of an issue that has been ongoing outside of this game)

Look, the post I issued to Oats said it all. (that you pasted above)

I wanted to change my meta after all the flaming I was getting.

Last game I rolled scum, so stuck with my old meta (lots of text walls, and low contribution)

This game, being town, I have been able to try something different. Maybe that is why you feel the language is different.

Either way, you are welcome to make meta judgements on me.. but, please keep in my what I have tried to drive and achieve this game.. If you think that is town related, think of me as town... if you think I have tried to drive issues that benefit scum, than think of me as scum.

Maybe not *Everything* I have done this game has been useful, but I would like to think I have a better post/content ratio than before.

Lastly, i dont think newbie meta should be held accountable for ppl outside newbie games.. those 3 games are a chance for people to experiment with what works, and what doesnt. my newbie game style didnt work, so now im trying something different.
[Yes I realise this is ironic to say considering I used meta against Oats.However, his character/style seems deeply entrenched already, still in hindsight I should have avoided taking that perspective and focus on the game at hand]