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On January 25 2013 15:42 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 15:35 DearestSnot wrote:On January 25 2013 15:31 Chezinu wrote:On January 25 2013 15:18 DearestSnot wrote:On January 25 2013 15:10 Chezinu wrote:On January 25 2013 15:07 DearestSnot wrote:On January 25 2013 15:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok WBG,
I think grush could be scum.
Because, he is trolling the thread, has no actual scum reads. He still hasnt explained why he masoned yamato. I'll give you a 7/10 for effort but I'm willing to upgrade it to 9.5 if you can figure out my reasoning for why I disagree with you Are you a detective? no, are you? Some people called me a mad detective in the past. humour me, Chezinu. Who is scum? mommy dearest and the "nonconfirmed" towns on this list. 6. oatsmaster 7. debears 11. axlegreaser 17. Grush - innocent if mocsta is mafia 20. mocsta - innocent if grush is mafia 21. Broodkingexe have Fun!
That list is hillarious... wheres mkfuba? hes confirmed town for Chezinu?
I love the setup between me n Grush as well.
Nicely played Chez
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Chezinu.. do you think Grush still likes Yamato?
If you had a peg one mafia between Toad/DearestSnot, who is the mafia?
Before you referenced someone caleld "masta" was this FT?
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On January 25 2013 16:22 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 16:13 Mocsta wrote:
Chezinu.. do you think Grush still likes Yamato?
If you had a peg one mafia between Toad/DearestSnot, who is the mafia?
Before you referenced someone caleld "masta" was this FT? If you asked me earlier, I would have said toad. But now, I would say mommy dearest cause he no likes me since day 1. Though I liked him day 1. But its already over if that's the case. You of all people should know who masta is....mocsta
Chezinu
(1) Do you think Grush still likes Yamato?
(2) Do you really think Bugs is scum; even though he was a driving force behind prplhz lynch?
Are you suggesting Bugs took a bus approach to get town cred for Day1 gambit?
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On January 25 2013 16:32 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 16:28 Mocsta wrote:On January 25 2013 16:22 Chezinu wrote:On January 25 2013 16:13 Mocsta wrote:
Chezinu.. do you think Grush still likes Yamato?
If you had a peg one mafia between Toad/DearestSnot, who is the mafia?
Before you referenced someone caleld "masta" was this FT? If you asked me earlier, I would have said toad. But now, I would say mommy dearest cause he no likes me since day 1. Though I liked him day 1. But its already over if that's the case. You of all people should know who masta is....mocsta Chezinu(1) Do you think Grush still likes Yamato? (2) Do you really think Bugs is scum; even though he was a driving force behind prplhz lynch? Are you suggesting Bugs took a bus approach to get town cred for Day1 gambit? Is 5touch bugs? I thought he was palmar...
Masta = me
mommy Dearest = DearestSnot?? = Bugs?
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On January 25 2013 16:33 Chezinu wrote:
question 1
#1.. well i think u already answered it.. something u want me to answer instead perhaps?
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On January 25 2013 16:35 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 16:34 Mocsta wrote:On January 25 2013 16:32 Chezinu wrote:On January 25 2013 16:28 Mocsta wrote:On January 25 2013 16:22 Chezinu wrote:On January 25 2013 16:13 Mocsta wrote:
Chezinu.. do you think Grush still likes Yamato?
If you had a peg one mafia between Toad/DearestSnot, who is the mafia?
Before you referenced someone caleld "masta" was this FT? If you asked me earlier, I would have said toad. But now, I would say mommy dearest cause he no likes me since day 1. Though I liked him day 1. But its already over if that's the case. You of all people should know who masta is....mocsta Chezinu(1) Do you think Grush still likes Yamato? (2) Do you really think Bugs is scum; even though he was a driving force behind prplhz lynch? Are you suggesting Bugs took a bus approach to get town cred for Day1 gambit? Is 5touch bugs? I thought he was palmar... Masta = me mommy Dearest = DearestSnot?? = Bugs? Was he really the driving force? To me, 5touch was more of the driving force.
Its ok you prob read in haste
On January 25 2013 16:28 Mocsta wrote:
he was a driving force behind prplhz lynch?
Are you suggesting Bugs took a bus approach to get town cred for Day1 gambit?
Chez.. do you think Bugs who contributed in lynching prplhz would be scum? I.e. playing a gambit to get town cred?
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Chezinu
When the game started, you held a lot of authority. Supplementing this, many seemed to like you.
As the game progressed your contributions became scarce.
I think you blamed the lack of commitment due to midterms.
Now that 2 mafia have been lynched, your activity has spruced.. coincidence? What are you planning to reciprocate back to town, now that your activity has increased?
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Axle ur a null to leaning scum read for me.
At the same time with ur style i actualy dont want to pressure u either.
Seriously though. If u think 5T was elected due to mason circle. U r not reading the thread from over 40hrs ago.
5T was a voice of reason. Thats why he was elected.. He summarises it all in a post addressed to oats.
Stop being lazy and read the game..
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On January 25 2013 17:24 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 16:56 Mocsta wrote:
Chezinu
When the game started, you held a lot of authority. Supplementing this, many seemed to like you.
As the game progressed your contributions became scarce.
I think you blamed the lack of commitment due to midterms.
Now that 2 mafia have been lynched, your activity has spruced.. coincidence? What are you planning to reciprocate back to town, now that your activity has increased? I wasn't planning on reciprocating. I have to entertain the Great Observers you know. oh and it was a single midterm not midterms. "many seemed to like you." Really? the votes said the contrary. Knowing that I couldn't get mayor and finding out it wouldn't be best for town if I was, I decided to play the brown.
Chezinu. If u dont reciprocate how else do u plan to influence our read on u?
Also can u pls share your thoughts on axlegreaser.
P.s. Many liked u d1. U barely posted and received several votes. U also said 2 ppl masoned u. So there must have been some attraction.
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On January 25 2013 18:05 Toadesstern wrote:
Ok I'll put this out here for possible vigs and medics
I'll flip a coin tonight. If it's heads I'll jail BKE. If it's tails I'll jail Vivax.
Just don't want vigs to shoot BKE when I'm jailing him and I don't want medics to waste protection on Vivax when there's about 0 chance he's getting shot because mafia will just RB him, assuming they have an RB like in 99% of every game on TL that isn't a pure vanilla game.
One interesting thing to remember for possible medics: I can medic a person only ONCE per game, so if you're not sure what to do just protect WBG. I'd still say he's likely to be shot and there's exactly 0% chance for me to change my mind and protect him tonight.
This logic doesnt make sense to me.
If mafia RB vivax, why would they burn KP on him?
Its one or the other, either way he doesnt get a DT check.
You jailing him, he still doesnt get a DT check.
Wheres the value?
The only value i can see is if you think he will add value to scum hunting day3 without DT information.
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On January 25 2013 19:03 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 17:17 yamato77 wrote:On January 25 2013 16:47 AxleGreaser wrote:
@YAMato77
Why did you vote for an Annul lynch at the start of D2?
perhaps more importantly why did you vote for it when you did? If you read the game you would know why, but it's because he looked red to me N1 and I wanted him dead early D2. That weakened, I found a better read, and now I'm left to consider the possibility of mafia Annul yet again. Ok. Yam that might be true but what is the effect on our ability to find scum if the wagon on Annul Starts early in D2 gathers a lot of momentum. Is that likely to be good for the amount of information scum is forced to give away or not? Even if Annul is scum, an early fast wagon will lead to less effective scum hunting that can act as resource for subsequent days? Would you agree with those statements?
Axle,
I see the point you are raising, but this is normal play.
Annul was a weak scum read. You pressure on, and determine if he comes null to town; or strong scum read.
I dont see a problem with this move.
Axle.. i see you questioning many people over their behaviour and direction they are trying to give.
Could you please indicate who your top scum read is, and why.
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On January 25 2013 19:37 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 19:30 Mocsta wrote:On January 25 2013 18:05 Toadesstern wrote:
Ok I'll put this out here for possible vigs and medics
I'll flip a coin tonight. If it's heads I'll jail BKE. If it's tails I'll jail Vivax.
Just don't want vigs to shoot BKE when I'm jailing him and I don't want medics to waste protection on Vivax when there's about 0 chance he's getting shot because mafia will just RB him, assuming they have an RB like in 99% of every game on TL that isn't a pure vanilla game.
One interesting thing to remember for possible medics: I can medic a person only ONCE per game, so if you're not sure what to do just protect WBG. I'd still say he's likely to be shot and there's exactly 0% chance for me to change my mind and protect him tonight.
This logic doesnt make sense to me. If mafia RB vivax, why would they burn KP on him? Its one or the other, either way he doesnt get a DT check. You jailing him, he still doesnt get a DT check. Wheres the value? The only value i can see is if you think he will add value to scum hunting day3 without DT information. the value is that I think someone might be stupid enough to think vivax needs a protection. I'm forcing medics to protect something else with that statement :p I roleblock townies while protection so IF someone is going to waste protection on vivax let it at least be me in case I get tails that is.
hmm OK, I have faith in your experience and decision making. 
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On January 25 2013 21:22 AxleGreaser wrote:
On January 25 2013 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
Axle ur a null to leaning scum read for me.
At the same time with ur style i actualy dont want to pressure u either.
Seriously though. If u think 5T was elected due to mason circle. U r not reading the thread from over 40hrs ago.
5T was a voice of reason. Thats why he was elected.. He summarises it all in a post addressed to oats.
Stop being lazy and read the game..
Given that you appear to be responding to post where i did not suggest what you claim I did please stop being lazy and read my post.
Are you being serious?
On January 25 2013 17:15 AxleGreaser wrote:
In the end it seemed to me that Five touch got elected for reasons that I simply am not privy to.
Dont like mason games.....
Are you telling me those two sentences are not directly related?
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[fluff]
I thought ad-hominem only applies if instead of attacking your argument, he attacks your character.
Hes just pointing out a statement "I cant believe how bad you're at this game"
Its not used directly to debunk your argument
So technically speaking, its not ad-hominem
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Im tend to use ad-hom too
its very effective in persuading others not in the argument to join a side;
But.. usually its also indicative of conceding the argument; all good at least your in a better mood today Vivax
thats what matters
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On January 25 2013 22:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
What is with the sudden spike of the phrase, ad-hominem? like a month ago it was nowhere, now it is everywhere.
Like whats wrong with personal attacks?
Lol
you used fallacy this game, its no diff
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hehe yeah I know what you mean;
I guess because it implies authority (via education).
So using the word becomes condescending for the recipient.
but this is all post-game talk, so thats the last im speaking of it.
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Night Guys. I prob won't be around much for the next 24hrs.
I dont have any spreadsheets to share.
If I am around Day3, I would vote BKE
and 2nd vote
split between Chez & Axle, depending on how questions go.
Ciao.
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Gents, popped in before shooting off because I had a brainwave.
(1) To all doubters of BKE... compare him to Annul and the activity difference when questioned about lurking.. Annul has been helpful since Day2 IMHO - even if its focussed only on his areas of interest... BKE completely different
(2) To all doubters of Chez being town due to PM because he may have convinced the masons he was town... before that post, everyone was saying Chez is unreadable, hence its VERY unlikely he convinced anyone he was town... so considering that, it doesnt make sense to me for the mafia to have kept the two masons alive (or at least one of them instead of JX) when they had two masons that most likely thought NULL of Chez
(3) Axle, Im OK leaving him for the next day.. though his activity level dropped it actulaly COULD be because we are at 135 pages (and the newbies would be 50 pages) its a big difference in commitment. But he really needs this Day3 to prove himself
(4) Someone mentioned AustinMCC I think, I agree with this, hes null on the verge of either side for me. Somethigns he says are helpful, but IIRC its all setup speculation (and we all know what DjoDref did with setup speculation).. he needs to be questioned regardless of whether you think he is town/scum.
Peace out and best of luck. Wont be back for like 12hrs (if I am alive)
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OOOO.. the other thing with Austin is him developing the framer informatoin.
look at what he speculated, vs'd what I raised about Gonzaw and the framing issue (in particular the VT timing)
Im a newbie.. Austin is a vet.... why am I picking up on the points I did?
On January 25 2013 09:25 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 03:25 gonzaw wrote:
If this was a "legit" frame/attempt to misslynch me it's weird as fuck because "jack mason" doesn't make any sense.
So gonzaw throws in the frame stuff to potentially play some WIFOM (In my last game (played scum).. we had already discussed if any of us was cop checked, we would play the frame card.. just like Gonzaw did now.. its a WIFOM bomb and very hard to dispute with the information in the thread) Whats interesting however is his initial response to being under the pump Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 03:24 gonzaw wrote:
WTF?
That's so obviously bullshit. I didn't mason anybody at all that doesn't make sense?
Wow holy shit let me think about this Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 03:40 gonzaw wrote:
I am also a VT, which doesn't matter at all anyways so might as well claim.
If I was VT. I would know straight away I been framed.. “hey guys I didn’t mason anybody.. im a vt” It takes him 15 min to post he is a VT.. this is suspect (if he was framed) Now, if we assume the frame is debuffed. This is interesting too Show nested quote +On January 23 2013 10:36 gonzaw wrote:
Kind of saw this coming to be honest (except the sandro kill).
Unless some of them were a vig shot.
Oats, you seem to be active, why haven't you addressed my response to your "case"?
Everyone was shocked ppl like JX were killed.. and his response is “I saw this coming” and immediately has the clarity of mind to assume vig… This is fishy as, and to me, with the jack check, makes sense.. he was already prepared to throw out vig before the kills occurred.
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