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On January 29 2013 13:56 warbaby wrote:
I don't, and I've made exactly one list in this game, which was the will I linked.
Why did you ignore my scumreads from that will and accuse me of tunelling Acid~? Explain this.
You didn't make scum reads, you made a whole bunch of null reads and some "maybe scum reads". You, Sn0, and Acid spent half of Day 1 arguing with each other. Acid has been tunneling you the whole game. I know its tempting to just OMGUS and vote for him, but that's just throwing in the towel for D2. Maybe if you didn't spend so much time talking about how Acid is scum, you could pursue your other "leads"?
If you make two comments about why you don't like lists, why do you make one? It's so fucking hypocritical.
You're acting like a cross the little boy who stands on the corner selling newspapers and 6 girls gossiping at a sleepover...
"Extra! Extra! Corazon accused me of doing something! OMG, like what do you think about this guys? OMG, that totally looks bad! Do you all think we should tunnel Corazon?"
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Just like when you argued with Acid the first time: I like the idea, I just disagree with the execution. The difference is the first time the execution was not detrimental to town because we had 2 lurkers. This time, it is being detrimental to town.
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I'm not throwing the towel in for D2. I never said I wouldn't unvote Acid~. Why are you implying I said these things?
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Because you voted him instead of FoS-ing, which is what you really should have done. By voting, you are saying you want to lynch him today. Saying it 10 minutes into D2 is throwing in the towel.
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It's fine if you want to pressure me Cora, but your case is so shitty it doesn't even make sense. How am I supposed to make a will without listing my thoughts?
Zarepath suggested we write wills, although I was then the only one to do so. Maybe you should jump on Zare now for being a hypocrite too.
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On January 29 2013 14:09 cDgCorazon wrote:
Because you voted him instead of FoS-ing, which is what you really should have done. By voting, you are saying you want to lynch him today. Saying it 10 minutes into D2 is throwing in the towel.
How many minutes exactly must I wait before casting my vote, then? And why don't you criticize Acid~ for casting a vote immediately as well.
Again, your case is so bad it doesn't even make sense. Please try harder.
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On January 29 2013 14:04 cDgCorazon wrote:
You didn't make scum reads, you made a whole bunch of null reads and some "maybe scum reads".
How is calling Sn0man "my #1 scum candidate" not a scum read. I even FoS'd him. Why has nobody responded to my FoS on Sn0man? It still stands.
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I am going to spell it out one more time for you. If you can't understand after this, then I'm done arguing with you.
First off, this is not a case against you. It's a plea to stop wasting our time.
You and Acid have been tunneling each other all game. Sure you have made other posts (whereas Acid has not), but the majority of your game has been preaching to us how Acid is an infidel and needs to be slain (you can tell how not agitated I am with you?).
If you were town, you would realize that you're either risking to not be taken seriously by unvoting for Acid after you've tunneled him so hard, or you're throwing in the towel for D2. Neither are good.
All I have asked for is for you to let things develop more in D2, and save your vote until you are sure you cannot find any stronger leads than Acid after seeing the events of D2. Imagine if everyone just sheeped with you when you voted Acid, this day would basically be useless for discussion.
I said with my very first post in the game that voting should be taken seriously, and pressure voting should be used after an FoS. You're obviously not listening to me, which has become a common theme in this game.
If you want to play the town fool, go ahead. You're just dragging us down.
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On January 29 2013 14:23 warbaby wrote:
Why has nobody responded to my FoS on Sn0man? It still stands.
"Extra! Extra! I'm suspicious Sn0man is scum! OMG, like what do you think about this guys? OMG, that totally looks bad! Do you all think we should vote for Sn0?"
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On January 29 2013 14:30 cDgCorazon wrote:Sure you have made other posts (whereas Acid has not), but the majority of your game has been preaching to us how Acid is an infidel and needs to be slain (you can tell how not agitated I am with you?).
If anyone other than Corazon is reading this, look at my will again: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17656568
If I thought Acid~ was an "infidel and needs to be slain" for "the majority of the game" then why didn't I say so, for the majority of the game?
Corazon is clearly making shit up, and he is dodging my other accusations that his case FoS on me is also factually incorrect.
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"Extra! Extra! Corazon asking me to do something! OMG, like what do you think about this guys? OMG, Corazon is totally scum! I'm totally not overreacting, am I?"
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Whatever, man. Glad I got you to pick up your post rate for a while. You sure I didn't get a rise?
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I think your contributions would be more worthwhile if you made lists.
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I'll take that into consideration, thanks.
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On January 29 2013 14:09 cDgCorazon wrote:By voting, you are saying you want to lynch him today. Saying it 10 minutes into D2 is throwing in the towel.
OK, fine. I can't come up with any reason you're wrong about this. I don't currently think Zare is scum, and he's telling me to do this as well.
[b]##Unvote: Acid~
##FoS: Acid~
By my own logic I find Acid~ scummier than Sn0man, currently. So I'm switching my middle finger of suspicion to Acid~.
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On January 29 2013 15:30 warbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 14:09 cDgCorazon wrote:By voting, you are saying you want to lynch him today. Saying it 10 minutes into D2 is throwing in the towel. OK, fine. I can't come up with any reason you're wrong about this. I don't currently think Zare is scum, and he's telling me to do this as well.
Noted....
I'll be looking through filters today between tasks at work, everybody's filter but warbaby for now. We are very focused on him right now as a town (not necessarily undeservedly) and I worry that too many are getting by without contributing because of that.
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On January 29 2013 20:15 zarepath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 15:30 warbaby wrote:On January 29 2013 14:09 cDgCorazon wrote:By voting, you are saying you want to lynch him today. Saying it 10 minutes into D2 is throwing in the towel. OK, fine. I can't come up with any reason you're wrong about this. I don't currently think Zare is scum, and he's telling me to do this as well. Noted.... I'll be looking through filters today between tasks at work, everybody's filter but warbaby for now. We are very focused on him right now as a town (not necessarily undeservedly) and I worry that too many are getting by without contributing because of that.
Sure, but in the main they haven't contributed anyway. At this point, I've pretty much decided, we are lynching warbaby if I can make it happen today. I'm sure I can be convinced otherwise but at this point I don't see what evidence is really gonna come up that is worse than warbaby's play.
What I would like to discuss right now is the night action. Remember that NOBODY DIED last night. The scenarios that I can think of for that are:
A) Mafia shit the bed (pretty unlikely given that they have a coach),
B) Both mafia members are/were inactive (Cakepie...  )
C) Town has a JailKeeper/Doctor who is a clairvoyant (this one seems the most likely).
In the case of C, however, there is an interesting distinction between having a JK and a Doc. If we have a Doc, they have a confirmed townie on their hands, although that isn't necessarily that helpful. If we have a JK, then they know that their target is EITHER mafia OR the mafia target last night. But they can't be certain which. That again is interesting.
I don't think B) could happen either, since Cakepie is the only TRULY afk player over the course of all of Night 1... although if anybody can come up with a plausible scumteam that was simply afk all night 1 I'm listening.
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And warbaby's case against Acid basically comes down to "He isn't checking back every hour posting pointless responses to my inane accusations. CLEARLY SCUM"
Admittedly, it would be nice to see consistent contribution with wide-ranging analysis from, well, everybody, but some people have other obligations.
Still kinda waiting on the big "I'm here" post from Cakepie. Having 0 posts (worth mentioning) between you and your predecessor is not a good pedigree.
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On January 30 2013 00:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
Admittedly, it would be nice to see consistent contribution with wide-ranging analysis from, well, everybody, but some people have other obligations.
Having other obligations (SlayAlot) is different from being warned for playing the game improperly (Acid~). Acid~ has still not explained why he signed up for this game knowing he had 24 hour work shifts coming up, or why he thinks this is OK.
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