Dessert Mini Mafia - Page 7

On January 22 2013 11:24 jaybrundage wrote:

Reasoning. I wants it.

Also right you are about voting hapa. Fuck it ill vote him twice.

On January 24 2013 05:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
I went and read Hapa's filter from Mario Mini, and quite honestly iamp I can confidently say you are completely wrong.

He mentions Crossfire maybe...3 times, and all he does is ask people if he's a smurf or what, and then doesn't try to further a read on him. Then, he makes an offhand remark later in the game about something Crossfire did or said. Nothing there.

He doesn't mention his second teammate at all from what I could tell. His biggest concerns were debears, talking to marv, Z-Boson, and some others (yes, he was only alive d1, but still). I was curious to see who his other teammate was, so I went into the endgame and saw djodref. Having read Hapa's filter and small bits and pieces in context of his posts I would never have even guessed djo was playing that game.

I'm pretty confident in light of this that grush is hapa's scumbuddy.

On January 23 2013 05:40 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm kind of getting to the point where I think he is scum purely by the process of elimination.

Xata is probebly town.
You seem very town.
WBG does look far better than he did before in my eyes. Stuff like Seems to be comming from town. Had he been scum, I think he would've been more inclined to swap over to me. I think that Hopeless last minute post was looking very townie, and if WBG had actually pushed me I very well could've died. After that, we could risk exactly what WBG said. Even if Hopeless would survive today, he would have a hard time surviving tomorrow. And by that time he'd look even worse.

That leaves grush, Jay and Hapa. Atm I think grush is looking the worst, but I'm cool with Hapa lynch as well.

On January 24 2013 09:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
his switch from Hopeless to Hapa still makes absolutely no sense to me. I don't get it at all. It was such a convenient time for him to switch and I think almost everyone at that point perceived Hopeless as looking worse than Hapa.

On January 24 2013 09:58 grush57 wrote:
After you voted Hopeless, I was confident that he was going to get mislynched so I wanted to show that Hapa was scum :D

On January 20 2013 05:29 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hopeless is probebly scum after all... Sure, his play is similar to what it was last game but on the other hand him playing similar to last game when he was town is actually completely irrelevant because it actually doesn't tell us anything about his play as scum. Also, his play overall simply isn't townie at all. His posted some long posts some time ago but the first one was just him echoing what he said D2, Hapa + Lazer are scum. The second one was talking about setup. Why would you as town in this position do something like that? A townie who is just about to die would do ANYTHING to help his team get on the right track and give out all reads because when he flips, everyone will know that what he said was comming from a townie who at least wanted to hunt scum. Him repeating reads isn't helpfull at all. We would go through his filter anyway once he flips and find those reads. With that being said, Hopeless is going to get lynched today it seems, and spending more time explaining why he is scum seems

##Vote: Hopeless

WBG

Wbgs vote pattern yesterday is veeery funky indeed. He voted/unvoted between SlOosh and Hopeless no less than 5(!) times. Let's look a little bit closer at all this.

The first voteAfter this WBG goes on to put HEAVY pressure on SlOosh, points out several things in SlOosh play that makes him scum.

The second vote
While admittedly I think he is getting convinced by the guy he thinks he scum a little bit too fast, I don't really see any problem with this vote. He did state quite explicit that he had Hopeless down as scum.

The third voteNow, this is when things start to get fishy. WBG states that because he read my post about about Hopeless play last game and how its similar to last game, he is now much more inclined to belive that Hopeless looks town, or at least much better. However, I have a hard time thinking this is what actually happend. In last game, all of us three were town. Me and WBG were heavily suspicious of Hopeless that game(WBG filter). Both of us were pushing him hard core. I have a hard time seeing that WBG just forgot all this in a few days and needed my post as a reminder, especially since he seems to be a guy remembering things like this. For example, he was very fast at dissmissing my accusations against Jay PURELY based on meta from another game, a game that was played about a month ago.

Also note how during the time that he voted Hopeless, He doesn't really pressure him at all. He only has one post asking Hopeless about whether or not he is willing to lynch into SlOosh or not. This is in stark difference to when he was pushing SlOosh scum.

The forth vote

Once again, this is a very scummy vote. In just three hours he went from saying that he liked Hopeless posting much more, that he saw similarities to his last game and that SlOosh was scum to the opposite. Hopeless doesn't actually post even once during the time between the third and forth vote. WBG is instead convinced by Hapa's arguments on the issue. During the time between those two votes WBG goes on to say that Hopeless is a good lynch once again. But what happend with Hopeless improved posting? What happend with the meta read that made him look more town? And during this time, WBG still seems convinced that SlOosh is a good lynch, yet he votes Hopeless.

He also tells us to conolidate which is strange because the votecount at this point was looking like this:

The fifth and final vote

Not much to say. WBG doesn't really motivate this swap at all and would he have voted Hopeless, hopeless would've died.

Summary: WBG is flipping his vote like a mad man between Hopeless and SlOosh. However, while he is pushing SlOsh hard, he doesn't push hopeless at all. He even pushes SlOosh while he is voting Hopeless.

As for the last scum, I'm not sure. My best guess at this point is grush because of the simple explanation that I have a town read, albeit not too strong, on every else.