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On January 18 2013 02:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
lazermonkey, i really don't care at all about this conversation. All I care about right now are your reads, and you clearly don't have any. You are more than willing to engage in conversation about semantics and definitions of scumslips/wifom/etc but you are not willing to engage in scumhunting. Ask yourself this Thrawn, as scum would I be more or less inclined to ''have'' scum reads in case guys like you asks me to out scum reads? And it is you who brought up the wifom shit so why are you blaming me for it? In fact, this is the first time in the game where you are thinking I'm scum for anything else but the slip.
I do have reads, everyone that I didn't list in my post I think is town to one degree or another. I am reading the game intensly and the reason I haven't been posting too to much the last two days is because I felt that I wasn't in danger of getting lynched so I've been spending more time reading filters rather than spending time to defend myself against retarded stuff like scum slips.
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On January 18 2013 03:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
i didnt even read that last post. i read "ask yourself this" so i skimmed the rest and saw stuff such as "wifom" but i didn't see anything about scumreads. you know what? walking about wifim is like wifom^2. you said you have reads. talk about them. Nice mentality. You just said I was scum but then you don't even read my posts...
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On January 18 2013 03:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
had you truly been reading the game intensely you'd be able to contribute to discussion, and at the very least you would be able to give a reason to vote slOosh other than "I'm sheeping SS and that's not scummy."
I'm not buying that, try putting in more effort next time, scum. WTF, do you even read what I post?
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On January 18 2013 03:12 thrawn2112 wrote:
lazer i do not want you to argue with me about the scumread I have on you. I want you to talk about your reads. we've already been through this I DO want to talk about it tho.
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On January 18 2013 03:16 thrawn2112 wrote:scumslip Show nested quote +On January 18 2013 03:06 Lazermonkey wrote: I am reading the game intensly and the reason I haven't been posting too to much the last two days is because I felt that I wasn't in danger of getting lynched so I've been spending more time reading filters rather than spending time to defend myself against retarded stuff like scum slips.
He feels that he doesn't need to post that much. Why? Because he felt that he wasn't in danger of getting lynched. and as mentioned. if you had been studying the thread for 48 hours you would be able to talk about your reads on the spot, when asked to do so. My main scum read died N1 you know. I had to reevaluate my reads alot after that.
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Okay, I am going to post a list of reads because arguing about this is bad and doesn't actually help anyone.
Thrawn: town. I played vs him last game when he was scum and I town. His play D1 was very active and he pushed a lots of reads in a genuine way I think. Besides, last game he opted to tunnel me for all of D1 pretty much. If he were to be scum he would be less inclined to play this way because I'd be naturally suspicious of it.
Hapa: Activ and open about his reads. Town.
Hopeless: town for reasons I've already said.
Grush: Grush is hard to read as he trolls no matter what alignment he got. I sincerely do not know
Jay: I actually got a town read on this guy now. He is doing way better at posting than he originally did. The way he responded to Xata about his scum read on him is something I specially like as Iike. He said that Xata lynch probebly wasn't going to happend and that other players were more suspicious than him, which to me looks very geniun and town.
SlOosh: Scum. Sheeping WBG on this pretty much. And look at his most recent post:On January 18 2013 03:17 slOosh wrote:
Ehh ... disappointing.
You guys let Mr Zentor and grush lurk away, you guys vote me on a comparison basis of WBG, many of you totally ignoring / avoiding commenting on hopeless (I can't tell the difference) and none of you seem to be concerned that hopeless is lurking now that the lynch is pretty much set.
I'll read dump later tonight when I have time, and with my flip you maybe you guys will finally get it together, cause this has got to be the most frustrating town I have ever played with. Why does he feel the need to say this? Wouldn't town in his position do just about anything to try to hunt scum because if you are going to die, you might as well give out some reads that is going to be 100% confirmed once you die? Why isn't he attacking WBG who he thought were scum?
WBG: Town on WBG. He is scum hunting ALOT. Trying to get the thread onto the right track. For example he was defending Jay early on because of meta reasons even if Jay looked quite bad back then. I don't see why scum WBG would be defending Jay when he easily just could've just pushed him or just ignored him for a potential misslynch. Same thing with me when I ''slipped'' earlier in the thread.
Iamp/Ruush: slight town. It seems a bit unlikely that Ruush would play in the way he played if he had been scum. Scum would probebly coach him way more.
Xatalos: Scum. Didn't care for shit about D1 lynch. Said he wasn't too sure about Prom flipping scum and didn't think I was scum either but yet ends up voting him because he has to go to sleep. However, he didn't even try to swap the lynch to one of his higher scum reads but just stood by.
MrZentor: Slight town. He is just way more active than he usually is when he is scum. And his reads actually seems quite legit this game. His interactions with WBG near deadline D1 seems really good in fact.
If I had to guess, scum team is grush/Xatalos/SlOosh.
I really need to study now, but I'll be back in some time, at least an hour before the lynch. Most likely more.
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Okay, I'm back. Isn't the lynch in 01.00 AM CET? That is what it says on front page at least.
On January 18 2013 05:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm inclined to believe LM on his read of Hopeless because I do actually remember him saying that Hopeless played like this last game.
I do also recall that Hopeless played somewhat similarly to this in another game as well, but I'm not quite sure what to think of it, given that I think he was playing like that because of lack of time. He seemed to not be willing to comment on much and he wasn't around at all, but he was town.
LM what do you think of Xatalos attacking me? I think his case is quite bad. The attack itself however could be seen as a slight town tell maybe as I'm less inclined to belive that scum would attack one of the strongest players rather than focusing on easier misslynches so to speak. However, I think it's a quite small point and it comes down alot to WIFOM as we can only specualte on which targets scum would push. In contrast to what he has done so far he still looks scummy to me.
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EBWOP: missed host post : /
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On January 18 2013 07:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
also note that neither of them are around right now.
I know Prom wasn't around either but he actually said in thread that he'd be at work before leaving. (something I had missed earlier) Neither slOosh nor Hopeless have taken an active role in either
a.) defending themselves
or
b.) trying to find scum.
This is, IMO, pretty uncharacteristic of BOTH of their town games. slOosh as town is one of the better players in the game, and I know from cohosting with Hopeless and playing with him in past games that he sometimes has similar ideas to me when it comes to scumhunting and playing. So why are they both playing so out of character?
I AM glad, though, that we were able to get the vote so close. Even if we lynch wrongly today the votes and the changes should at least give a better idea of how to proceed.
Given that SlOosh is a better player than Hopeless, I'd say this makes SlOosh looks worse than Hopeless.
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Like seriously, what are the odds?
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On January 18 2013 07:45 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2013 07:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
Like seriously, what are the odds? what are you talking about? you did the same thing several hours ago. do you want to lynch hopeless instead of sloosh? if not then what is your point? You do realize BOTH hopeless and SlOosh came back the EXACT same minute?
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On January 18 2013 07:48 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2013 07:47 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 18 2013 07:45 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 18 2013 07:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
Like seriously, what are the odds? what are you talking about? you did the same thing several hours ago. do you want to lynch hopeless instead of sloosh? if not then what is your point? You do realize BOTH hopeless and SlOosh came back the EXACT same minute? do you have a point? Of course not... I just found it funny!
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SlOosh, if your life (IRL, that is Lol) would depend on it, who would you say are the three scum?
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On January 18 2013 08:42 slOosh wrote:
Do you even read my posts? I clearly state exactly why I didn't do exactly that. I did read that.
I don't want you to be giving out a case or anything. Just three names no explanation.
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its 6-6 I think but hopeless getting lynched.
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I can live with that. Its okay.
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btw, I'm going to bed. see you tomorrow.
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On January 18 2013 06:27 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2013 02:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
also xatalos is still abstaining, which is hilarious.
You're not going to lynch me today, or probably ever. Pick between slOosh and Hopeless. It really seems like Sloosh vs Hopeless at this point, yeah... That wasn't (at least completely) the case before I went to sleep + work, but now it's pretty much a waste to vote anyone else. Considering Sloosh / Hopeless: I think one of them is likely scum, but it's very unlikely that they are both scum. Sloosh lurked all of N1 and only returned to the thread during D2 after he was pressured to give his opinions... And lately he's just talked about lurkers or how this lynch might affect people's scumreads. Hopeless looks worse though with his self-proclaimed townread on Prom (while at the same time soft pushing him and really not caring about him getting lynched), clear apathy towards scumhunting, switching his reads around very easily depending on the thread, inactivity... The list just goes on and on. Hopeless should be the one to get lynched. ##Unvote wherebugsgo
##Vote Hopeless1der This is actually quite interesting, Xata realizes that WBG isn't happening and says that both looks scummy but it's unlikely that both are scum. He then chooses to vote Hopeless, even tho my impression from the post is that he just as well could've voted hopeless. I don't think Hopeless and Xatalos are scum together. It makes no sense with the lynch this close to buss.
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