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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 02:29 GMT
#1114
Pushing me despite acknowledging more recent examples of my current play being indicative of me being town, claming our votes on Ruuch being equally scummy, when they are quite clearly not and again, on the assumption that you are town, his voteswitch looks terrible.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 02:55 GMT
#1116
Because he had a scumread on prom and dropped it for no good reason.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 22:43 GMT
#1243
On January 18 2013 07:41 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 07:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
my memories of playing with town hopeless is that I yell at him a lot for not scumhunting.

imo LM is such obvious scum, idk how people aren't voting for him. Prom was lynched instead of Lazer (i'm not counting any votes that happened after ruuch's entrance) and LM had 2 confirmed town (sloosh and prom) voting for him. lets lynch LM please

but he does take initiative in who's getting lynched. look at the end of day 1 in mario.

Okay, lets play then. WIFOM this, with the knowledge that plurality lynch will kill me even if I swap back:

##Unvote: SlOosh
##Vote: Lazermonkey
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 22:45 GMT
#1250
I'd hardly call that instant, but okay. P.S. Hapa is scum
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 22:47 GMT
#1253
On January 18 2013 07:46 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 07:45 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'd hardly call that instant, but okay. P.S. Hapa is scum

he's probably the sk but that is irrelevant for right now.

k fine, but he still needs to die
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 22:48 GMT
#1254
On January 18 2013 04:38 Hapahauli wrote:
Aughh... got the flu and I feel like hell. Fun fun fun.

I need to rest some, but I should be around from now until the deadline.



Regarding Hopeless

We still should be lynching him. What about his responses have convinced you that he's town? He's lurking, he's dropping reads with barely any justification, and he made a self-preservation vote 24-hours before the lynch deadline. Hell I can't see where he pulled his read on SloOsh from:

Show nested quote +
I'm more inclined to believe bugs and Ruuch(Lamp) are town, so right now my choices to vote are Lazer and SlOosh, and possibly Hapa for no other reason than his vote was in scummy places.

Show nested quote +
SlOosh, you asked me why I wasn't pushing my own read, but its not like I could have stopped you from voting Prom. The whole point of that exercise was to question my motives, not to see if I had anything new to contribute. Hapa is next to impossible to reason with, and when was the last time you saw grush respond to any form of logic? Attempting to get Lazer lynched when Prom was afk and super didn't give two shits (hell, he swapped onto a townread) wasn't remotely possible, and if you honestly believe I had a chance in hell, please tell me what you are smoking.

Show nested quote +
Bugs' vote was on Zentor, until Ruuch showed his face. Bugs didn't do much to stop the Prom lynch, other than trying to get Ruuch at the last minute. This move puts him under suspicion, same as Hapa, but based on the night conversations, I believe only 1 of SlOosh and wbg are scum. I'm not discounting the possibility that both sloosh and wbg are scum, but it seems far less likely, and I think sloosh is more suspicious (/sheep bugs).

Show nested quote +
Sloosh, LM, Hapa


That's everything in his filter that could be considered suspicion on slOosh. And none of it is suspicion. It's just name-dropping and/or defending himself from sloOsh's line of questioning.



Regarding SloOsh

We should not be lynching him over a guy that has displayed numerous inconsistencies that are incompatible with a town-mentality (Hopeless).

I have my doubts about SloOsh. He's interested in pushing Hopeless, and he's more active in his defense than you all give him credit for.

I think we need to give him another day to prove himself one way or the other. In the mean-time, we need to lynch the scummiest guy in the thread - Hopeless.

Uh no Hapa. Read my filter again. Sloosh himself asked me to qualify my read on him. While not the most elaborate discussion ever, its nice of you to just ignore the most relevant part of your accusation:
On January 17 2013 10:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 10:29 slOosh wrote:
You guys just gonna let hopeless skate by making a case on lazer and dropping it whenever he feels like it? He is gonna make it to lategame like that.

Hopeless, in your own words, what about me is scummy? Or are you purely looking out for yourself and you don't care about my alignment?

You're pressure on me when I was commenting on Zentor, and subsequently using it to paint me as scum is my primary motivator in calling you scum. I do not believe there was any sufficient action I could have taken to adequately steered Prom's lynch onto anyone else and you insisting I should have tried harder, when there are multiple players who fit that bill irks me.

There's also the night interactions with wbg. I'm not dissecting that discussion. I think you look scummier than bugs and I think there is at least 1 scum between the two of you. That is enough for me at the moment.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 22:48 GMT
#1256
On January 18 2013 07:48 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 07:47 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 18 2013 07:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 18 2013 07:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
Like seriously, what are the odds?


what are you talking about? you did the same thing several hours ago. do you want to lynch hopeless instead of sloosh? if not then what is your point?
You do realize BOTH hopeless and SlOosh came back the EXACT same minute?

do you have a point?

He's scum what makes you think he has a point?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 23:17 GMT
#1269
Sloosh, how bout dem reads?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 23:39 GMT
#1280
On January 18 2013 08:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
Note:

no read on hopeless.

rofl

its in there, just not outlined. It basically says I'm a lazy piece of shit and need to step up my game if he flips town and I'm also town.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 23:56 GMT
#1307
##Unvote: Lazermonkey
##Vote SlOosh
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 17 2013 23:59 GMT
#1310
p.s. why isn't hapa here being angry?
On January 18 2013 04:38 Hapahauli wrote:
Aughh... got the flu and I feel like hell. Fun fun fun.

I need to rest some, but I should be around from now until the deadline.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 18 2013 00:07 GMT
#1321
DAT flavor. Bugs am I being lynched based on meta?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 19 2013 00:40 GMT
#1370
On January 19 2013 09:38 Xatalos wrote:
MrZentor, you REALLY need to start benefiting town if you in fact are town. Your behaviour after D1 is starting to look like your scum meta - and I'm starting to suspect that you just put your best effort into appearing like your town meta during D1, but couldn't keep it up anymore. It's really scummy how your activity and contributions have dropped dramatically after the beginning.

He just claimed mason. No one is going to counter that, he's confirmed. Or if they do, hurray I get to live another day while we solve that problem. I'd love to see some more from him, but he's next to get shot at this point.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 19 2013 00:43 GMT
#1373
I'm confirmation biased, and have yet to properly make a case, so feel free to call this OMGUS until I substantiate:

##Vote: Hapahauli


Still willing to lynch Lazer.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 19 2013 00:49 GMT
#1376
On January 19 2013 09:44 Xatalos wrote:
I know that, it would be a suicide to fakeclaim now. I posted that pressure for MrZentor almost at the same time as he claimed Mason. But regardless of that, it's beyond stupid to deny useful information even if you are town.

Your post is stamped 2 minutes after Zentor's and reads as a direct response to his claim, in which you suggest he may not actually be town. Also, define useful. Scattered information doesn't do anything by itself, there needs to be a reason. What do you expect is in the logs? He needs to post the logs before he dies, but I don't think we need his logs ASAP.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 19 2013 00:49 GMT
#1377
On January 19 2013 09:47 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 09:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'm confirmation biased, and have yet to properly make a case, so feel free to call this OMGUS until I substantiate:

##Vote: Hapahauli


Still willing to lynch Lazer.


Translation:

"Since I haven't bothered to do so yet, I need to look through Hapa's filter and fling as much shit at him as I can."

Go away scum.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 19 2013 00:53 GMT
#1379
On January 19 2013 09:52 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 09:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'm confirmation biased, and have yet to properly make a case, so feel free to call this OMGUS until I substantiate:

##Vote: Hapahauli


Still willing to lynch Lazer.


WTF? That's pretty much the scummiest post so far. You just counter-voted your voter without any reason other than "I'm going to make up reasons in the future". Even then you're diminishing your own vote by offering to lynch another player instead....

Scumteam:
Hapahauli
Xatalos
Lazermonkey
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 19 2013 00:57 GMT
#1381
On January 19 2013 09:55 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 09:53 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 19 2013 09:52 Xatalos wrote:
On January 19 2013 09:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'm confirmation biased, and have yet to properly make a case, so feel free to call this OMGUS until I substantiate:

##Vote: Hapahauli


Still willing to lynch Lazer.


WTF? That's pretty much the scummiest post so far. You just counter-voted your voter without any reason other than "I'm going to make up reasons in the future". Even then you're diminishing your own vote by offering to lynch another player instead....

Scumteam:
Hapahauli
Xatalos
Lazermonkey

did you learn how to play scum from palmar?

No, that guy is terrible
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 19 2013 02:27 GMT
#1387
On January 18 2013 09:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
Final Votecount:

slOosh (6): jaybrundage, MrZentor, Lazermonkey, wherebugsgo, thrawn, Hopeless1der
Hopeless1der (5): Hapahauli, slOosh, Xatalos, iamperfection, grush57

slOosh has been lynched!
Stay tuned for the nightpost.


@Jay:

Obviously you'll claim to be town. With MrZ and Thrawn being masoned together, do you believe LM, wbg and me are the scumteam?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 19 2013 02:57 GMT
#1393
On January 19 2013 11:40 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2013 11:27 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 18 2013 09:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
Final Votecount:

slOosh (6): jaybrundage, MrZentor, Lazermonkey, wherebugsgo, thrawn, Hopeless1der
Hopeless1der (5): Hapahauli, slOosh, Xatalos, iamperfection, grush57

slOosh has been lynched!
Stay tuned for the nightpost.


@Jay:

Obviously you'll claim to be town. With MrZ and Thrawn being masoned together, do you believe LM, wbg and me are the scumteam?

I find it hard to see WBG as scum, while he does have an amazing scum game. I can't see him bussing you this hard.

I could see a Hopeless, Grush scum team

The third is a wild card LM Xatalos maybe Iamp? However IDK bussing you yesterday would of been a good play yesterday.

With my limited time, I dont have much ability to reread filters as much as i would like.

How do you feel about a grush lynch hopeless?

I have never seen STARSENSES fail, and I don't think grush is scum.
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