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On January 13 2013 12:27 kushm4sta wrote: Bad reasoning is bad. Last time you used bad reasoning you were town. You must be town right? Your contributions to the thread right now are the following: 1) "I want to troll the thread, don't modkill me modzzzzz" 2) "The next post I make, it'll be about who I think is scum" 3) "Hapa, stop posting so much, you're acting too townie" | ||
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On January 13 2013 12:31 supersoft wrote: lol. teach me how to play this game. please. The rest of us want an answer too ya know. | ||
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On January 13 2013 12:34 kushm4sta wrote: hapa you aren't acting townie. You are actively pushing logical falsehoods for some reason and I don't get why. A more spammy version of the dumb or scum conundrum. I'm just pointing out how your logic is bad. ---->I was useless as scum, i'm useless right now, therefore I must be scum. Bad reasoning.. one example of many in the thread so far. @hapa are you saying stupid shit just because you like to talk a lot? why are you using bad logic? Is your play pro-town right now, true or false? | ||
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@ MrZ I don't think it's good to give Kush a town read based on the 180. If it was another player, I'd agree with you, but Kush is some who doesn't mind the spotlight at-all as scum. I don't know what to think of him yet, and I'm going to wait until I see his scumhunting before I make a judgement. @ Supersoft Have you looked into MrZ's meta at all? Because those early-game town reads are super-normal for him. Also, please reply to my previous post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=6#119 Regarding Xatalos His interaction with MrZ regarding Kush looks super-duper sketchy. He's balls-out convinced that Kush's 180 was scummy, then backs down to a "townish" read when confronted by MrZ. That, and he's been soft-defending a few players early in the game. His soft-defense of supersoft in particular reads as very forced: On January 13 2013 11:30 Xatalos wrote: What are you saying? You agree with hopeless so he's more scummy than grush whom you think is scummy with the same reasons as hopeless? Yeah, supersoft's focus on a single smilie was very overdone. But I think he looked pretty convinced about the matter. Why was it fake? Maybe he just wanted to pressure and get a reaction? I'm generally hesitant about him given that I mislynched him in British Mini Mafia for his "wishy-washiness," but his filter doesn't look very good right now. | ||
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On January 13 2013 12:45 MrZentor wrote: Also, I've already, although indirectly, pointed out that Hapa's play this game is different than usual, waaay before Kush said it. From me to Hapa So in a way, Kush is agreeing with me. I certainly took it out of context, but it wasn't intentional. That's what I do early on Day 1 - I'll go after anything I perceive as scummy early on and think of the consequences later. | ||
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On January 13 2013 15:15 thrawn2112 wrote: hapa what your #1 scum read? Xatalos for the reasons stated above, followed pretty closely by Hopeless. | ||
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On January 13 2013 15:28 slOosh wrote: I think the post you are thinking of is directed at kush (based on the next post in his filter). Yes that's what I said no? Xatalos direct a post towards Kush here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=14#280 At which point MrZ confronted him: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=15#282 At which point Xatalos backed down: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=15#287 | ||
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On January 13 2013 15:38 slOosh wrote: I'm looking at these, where he says "should have quoted this post". http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=15#287 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=15#289 On that note I also like jay on his ability to read and point out the ambiguity. Oh geezus I'm off today. Yeah that last bit was directed at Kush and not MrZ. X- out that bit, but the soft-defenses still stand. | ||
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I don't like his case on MrZ, but I'm unsure if that's scum motivated or ignorant-townie motivated. | ||
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On January 13 2013 16:37 slOosh wrote: I never make reads based on associations, and no one ever should. I think he is scum because of the stupid way he presented the whole thing. He an old school player, and from the little I've seen he is good. Not sure what you mean by ignorant. Ignorant in the sense that people unfamiliar with MrZ jump on him all the time. I'll have to look through super's meta some to get a feel for his play | ||
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I thought you were null on Kush? Why are you defending him? | ||
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On January 13 2013 20:09 Promethelax wrote: Lol at bugs, I'm scum because I was at work when the game started. Is there some unspoken rule about us not asking grush to give us his town breadcrumb? Because that is all I want from him right now. For those of you who haven't played with Kush assume he is similar to chezinu but without either the class or the ability to find scum. He is a troll who will troll all game long but it Isn't too hard to get a read on. I would like to hear both Hapa and thrawn's opinions of Kush. They know how to read him, as do I. Super, are you town? Zentor, can I expect you to be useful This game or should I put you into the troll column? Jay, what's your read of zentor? Slopsh, opinions on anyone who doesn't have a million point scrabble name. Hey Prome! As for my thoughts on Kush, he's going to be attention-whorey all game regardless of allignment. What's distinguishable about his scum/town play is his attitude (tends to be whinier as scum) and his willingness to contribute. In that regard, I disagree that he should be marked down as a "troll," because while he's good for the occasional "WTF" comment regardless of allignment, he can make some good contributions in his town game. As for now, I have nothing sufficient to on regarding his alignment. Kush is being kush, and he'll tip his hand in short order. | ||
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MrZentor "Super, Jay is town. -.-" scumslip ? is the older cousin. defend is naturally - how does he know he's town, is still the question says he can read jay because of one post of his -- wrong thought about what scum does and what not. confuses kush and jay even though jay is his cousin? slOosh calls my stuff BS, hides behind common opinions -- bad case on easy xatalos - really bad reasoning accusing me --- Earlier, you were convinced that MrZ scumslipped. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=12#231 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=13#256 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=14#270 So if you're convinced that MrZ scumslipped, how is SloOsh an even stronger scumread for you? It doesn't help that half the reason you're voting him is pure OMGUS. | ||
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On January 14 2013 04:15 MrZentor wrote: I'm not defending him; there are certain aspects of his play that I don't see as scum motivated, and I was wondering if WBG had considered this. Actually, if I were defending him, why would you question that? Why wouldn't you assume I had gone from being null on him to town? Why would you question me for defending him? Yeah, but it makes no sense to defend a null read. I want to hear kush speak for himself - we need the "null reads" to be speaking up and establishing their alignment. As for why I questioned you, because when I assumed you had a town-read on Kush earlier (based on one of your posts directed towards Xatalos), you replied that you had a null read. You're talking to WBG with the same logic. | ||
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Hey Lazer! I think we're about 24 hours until the end of Day 1. Try to catch up quick now | ||
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On January 14 2013 07:22 Xatalos wrote: Well, you already removed your first argument, so how did that affect your scumread on me? And I already explained that "soft defense" (stating a simple point about his probable intentions) in my previous post. How did that affect your read? I'm actually surprised how weak this reasoning is for your #1 scumread. Is that all there is to it? Talk to me a bit. The main thing I find scummy about you is your multitude of soft-defenses. The supersoft one I quoted earlier reads as especially strange. Also, you're pushing Jay right now, but pushing lynch-bait is something anyone can do. We were both playing in British Mini, and you saw how he acted. What makes his gameplay different now? I see a lot of similarities - spaminess, etc. | ||
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I keep asking you questions and you keep dodging them - whats the deal? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955¤tpage=19#363 Secondly, a lot of your suspicions right now are based on how much you like certain players rather than their scumminess. You think Prome and SloOsh have bad suspicions of you - so what? Townies do that all the time. I don't know what to think of those players yet, but they are far from scumreads for me. SloOsh in particular has an assertiveness about him that I associate with his town play. | ||
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