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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 02:54 GMT
#227
the reasons I think xatalos could be scum

he's defending kush.... scum do that a lot
he's pushing jay.....scum do that a lot
he's participating in a lot of discussion that isn't related to scumhunting, it looks like he's arguing for the sake of arguing
i don't detect real suspicion in any of his posts

he's spending way too much time defending people and I don't think he's actually suspicious of anything
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 02:55 GMT
#228
On January 13 2013 11:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
hopeless comes away more scummy because if I look at each player objectively, without meta, and not thinking about them omgusing each other, hopeless is scummier. meta is a dumb reason to have a strong opinion on who to lynch, and hopeless actually seemed completely serious about wanting to lynch grush. his "wrong answer" post was strange as you've pointed out and "what would be the right answer" was the same question I thought about as soon as I read hopeless's post. no, he's not my top read. that title probably goes to xatalos/super. as I said, my thoughts on grush/hope have somewhat been reset back to null.


Regarding the bolded, if you were more concerned about Xatalos and Super, why would you feel obligated to "pick a side" on the Hopeless/Grush thing?


because my thoughts on xatalos and super came after my thoughts on grush/hopeless lol

On January 13 2013 11:51 Hapahauli wrote:
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On January 13 2013 11:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
...
-the reasoning hopeless gave for thinking grush is scum is pretty close to my own reasoning. if I HAD to pick out one of them as scum right now, it'd probably be hopeless


It reads as really forced. If you're leaning null on them, why would you even bring something like this up?


because you asked? o.0
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 03:03 GMT
#235
super why is zentor scum? red font is easy i can do it too

can you explain that read on zentor without quoting what he said about jay?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 03:15 GMT
#240
On January 13 2013 12:09 supersoft wrote:
why are you buddying zentor? He's scum. read his filter. He slipped so badly i dont even have to quote it.


idc about zentor atm, it's you

you've yet to talk about something that is actually constructive and not dumb or irrelevant.

can you actually convince me that you think zentor is scum? take me on a tour of his filter plz
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 03:28 GMT
#243
On January 13 2013 09:47 kushm4sta wrote:
fyi i dont read megacases, so keep that in mind.
k this is my last intro post.
Next time I post it will be telling you who i think is scum.



kush i'm waiting on this
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 03:38 GMT
#252
On January 13 2013 12:34 kushm4sta wrote:
hapa you aren't acting townie. You are actively pushing logical falsehoods for some reason and I don't get why. A more spammy version of the dumb or scum conundrum.

I'm just pointing out how your logic is bad. ---->I was useless as scum, i'm useless right now, therefore I must be scum.
Bad reasoning.. one example of many in the thread so far.

@hapa are you saying stupid shit just because you like to talk a lot? why are you using bad logic?


kush I want you to quote the logical falsehoods you're talking about
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 04:22 GMT
#276
PROM I MISS YOU WHERE ARE YOU

also no word from wbg/sloosh

if we really wanna talk about doing random lynches, those 3 should make up the lynch pool



lol fail on that one
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 05:38 GMT
#293
On January 13 2013 14:36 slOosh wrote:
Ok, enough second guessing, my case is gonna be on Xatalos. People should read up on his filter before reading my case so they can better look at it objectively. Next post will be case.


you said enough second guessing, what were your other thoughts about before deciding on xatalos?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 06:15 GMT
#299
hapa what your #1 scum read?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 06:24 GMT
#304
On January 13 2013 15:22 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 14:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:36 slOosh wrote:
Ok, enough second guessing, my case is gonna be on Xatalos. People should read up on his filter before reading my case so they can better look at it objectively. Next post will be case.


you said enough second guessing, what were your other thoughts about before deciding on xatalos?

"Maybe Xatalos is really really weird town" was my conflicting thought.


any comments on other stuff that's happened in the thread?

what do you think about hopeless, grush, super, zentor, and ruuch?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 14:56 GMT
#322
i would vote sloosh or prom right now
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 15:11 GMT
#324
his case on xatalos wasn't really anything that hadn't been said and therefore seemed like a huge waste of words to write about something that a lot of people are already thinking

I asked him for his opinions on a few other players and he failed the thread reading test with his response:

On January 13 2013 15:35 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 15:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 13 2013 15:22 slOosh wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 13 2013 14:36 slOosh wrote:
Ok, enough second guessing, my case is gonna be on Xatalos. People should read up on his filter before reading my case so they can better look at it objectively. Next post will be case.


you said enough second guessing, what were your other thoughts about before deciding on xatalos?

"Maybe Xatalos is really really weird town" was my conflicting thought.


any comments on other stuff that's happened in the thread?

what do you think about hopeless, grush, super, zentor, and ruuch?

super pulled some total bs with his second entry, which happened to coincide when you started your pressure on Xatalos. It's really dangerous to make such connections but the case stands well enough alone that it's something worth considering.

ruuch is totally new, and all he has to do is chime in with his most current thoughts now and again and we will all get along. Going after him right now makes no sense to me.

I wrote down somewhere hopeless was just echoing something someone else already said, and put down "acting useless".

I like grush. Mr Zentor is ok too. And by that I mean, unless someone shows me Xatalos and super is probably not scum, I won't be looking into these guys.



his read on super was based on his read on xatalos which is the easiest thing ever for scum to fake. his comments on ruuch do not mention the fact that he got voted for early on and did not respond in a townie way to the vote. he didn't mention anything relevant about hopeless, grush, or zentor either. I asked about those players specifically because there is stuff to say about them and they have all had their own impact on the thread, yet sloosh doesn't talk about anything they've actually done. he just spat out some generic statements about them.

He only had an opinion about xatalos and his opinions about other things were either extremely shortsighted or not at all relevant to what's actually happened in the game.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 15:46 GMT
#327
##Vote: slOosh
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 16:29 GMT
#333
hopeless can you get to talking about scumreads soon?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 17:02 GMT
#337
super....

how do i get points deducted for voting sloosh, yet i get town points for making a case on sloosh?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 17:22 GMT
#343
thrawn's current lynch list = sloosh/hopeless/prom
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 19:20 GMT
#368
wbg sir, I posit that you are scum

On January 14 2013 03:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
Alright, let's kill kush.

##vote kushm4sta

Beyond what has been said by other people about kush, note one important thing; he's been called scummy a hell of a lot but no one has actually put a vote on him. I don't recall anyone finding anything that really points in his favor either, and as I couldn't find anything on that front myself, I think that makes him a great lynch today.

In addition, there are very many reasons to call him scum, and different players have said different things. Indeed, what I noticed was different from all of them, in fact. If you would like to see for yourself, filter kush and go back into his posts. Note the number of times he comments on his own appearance. Note how he asks someone how his entrance into the thread was scummy. Note how he actually bothers to explain himself for even the tiniest accusations; things in previous games I would have expected him to either ignore or indignantly call someone stupid over.

Lastly, note how he never follows up on his reads, pushes his reads, or gives the impression that he is trying to strengthen or rationalize his reads. He certainly doesn't seem to care who scum are.


this post is remarkably devoid of actual comments on kush's play besides references to what other's have said

when questioned about your read, you have this to say:

On January 14 2013 03:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't understand how scum are excluded from making shitty posts.


you are not interested in the actual conversation about whether or not kush is scum

your filter lacks thoughts/reads on other issues. there is a lot in thread to talk about and you aren't talking about it, you have posted a weak case against kush....

##unvote
##Vote: Wherebugsgo
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 19:24 GMT
#370
On January 14 2013 04:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Cool story bro, you called my case weak without even showing how it is. I have no reason to even bother replying to you any further until you learn to read.


and that is what makes you scum
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 19:33 GMT
#372
attention thread, do not be dissuaded by wbg's attempts to avoid scumhunting by means of derailing the conversation by being an asshole. he's scum.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 19:35 GMT
#374
On January 14 2013 04:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Cool story bro, you called my case weak without even showing how it is. I have no reason to even bother replying to you any further until you learn to read.


in fact, it is you who have failed to read:

On January 14 2013 04:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
wbg sir, I posit that you are scum

Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
Alright, let's kill kush.

##vote kushm4sta

Beyond what has been said by other people about kush, note one important thing; he's been called scummy a hell of a lot but no one has actually put a vote on him. I don't recall anyone finding anything that really points in his favor either, and as I couldn't find anything on that front myself, I think that makes him a great lynch today.

In addition, there are very many reasons to call him scum, and different players have said different things. Indeed, what I noticed was different from all of them, in fact. If you would like to see for yourself, filter kush and go back into his posts. Note the number of times he comments on his own appearance. Note how he asks someone how his entrance into the thread was scummy. Note how he actually bothers to explain himself for even the tiniest accusations; things in previous games I would have expected him to either ignore or indignantly call someone stupid over.

Lastly, note how he never follows up on his reads, pushes his reads, or gives the impression that he is trying to strengthen or rationalize his reads. He certainly doesn't seem to care who scum are.


this post is remarkably devoid of actual comments on kush's play besides references to what other's have said

when questioned about your read, you have this to say:

Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 03:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't understand how scum are excluded from making shitty posts.


you are not interested in the actual conversation about whether or not kush is scum

your filter lacks thoughts/reads on other issues. there is a lot in thread to talk about and you aren't talking about it, you have posted a weak case against kush....

##unvote
##Vote: Wherebugsgo


I have said many things about your case on kush in this post
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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