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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 25 2013 22:58 GMT
#1937
Grush, you aren't convincing me that you are town very well. Which is kinda bad because you will die.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 25 2013 23:45 GMT
#1940
On January 26 2013 08:43 grush57 wrote:
*Grush advice*
If you have a bad feeling about lynching someone, it is because it is a mislynch
*That has been, Grush advice*
##Unvote
##Vote: grush57
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 25 2013 23:51 GMT
#1941
you have almost exactly 24 hours to convince me and the rest of the town why we shouldn't lynch you. Right now, you might as well surrender like Hapa did if you are scum. You saying 60% of the remaining players may be scum does not cut it if you are town.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 10:44 GMT
#1947
Anyone here wants to do some chitty chatty?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 10:58 GMT
#1948
On January 26 2013 11:43 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 20:31 Lazermonkey wrote:
@Jay's response

1. I don't understand your logic here. Why is SlOosh flipping SK changing your read on Hopeless again?

2. My point still stands.

3. Okay, fair enough.

4. But why do you keep tunneling grush then? You get response that you say is scummy but yet you don't vote him...

Also:
You forget to mention that the person i tunneled in British MM was a town.
Scum slip? : ) Indicating grush is scum this game.


Eh I thought sloosh would flip scum. When he didn't and flipped SK it made sense for mafia to try to save a scum hopeless Or so i thought from my point of view. If i had been around for when hopeless started posting really townie then maybe it would of been different.

I kept tunneling grush because the more people post the better you can read them. Then today what lamp said about grush made a bit of sense of him being a coin flip. But as its coming down to the line. The only thing that makes much sense is lazer and grush. WBG and Xat dont make much sense.
You see, I think you are lying here. Note the bolded part in this post:
On January 17 2013 11:19 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 10:26 slOosh wrote:
jay, you haven't objectively commented on hopeless. Right now you have him as town because you think I'm scum. That won't do. What about his posts show that he is town?

Independent of you being scum voting for hopeless. I have a null tell/leaning townieon Hopeless. He has done some scummy things earlier on.

However I think more recent his posting has improved like his reasoning for voting for Ruuch when he thought he might be town does make sense. It shows reasoning and his thought process.

SlOosh In the small possibility that you are town. If you could give your reads on everyone and your other scum reads as well, I know that you think Hopeless and WBG are scum is there a third party that appeals to you? We have a whole day left. The more people post and be transparent the better of a chance town has towards winning.

Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 10:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 17 2013 09:51 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 17 2013 09:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
Question the first:
Why did Hapa vote for Ruuch?

Question the second:
Why did I vote for Ruuch?



@Lamp: Do you find my read of you suspicious, based on the posting, and circumstances surrounding the replacement, of Ruuch? By which I mean, do you think it is conceivable that I would arrive at a townread of you based on the limited information available?


Ill answer these. I think both of you voting for Ruunch was stupid. It was a dumb wagon. He is a completely new at this game. Doesn't know what hes doing. His late vote was completely a null tell. He doesnt know whats scummy and whats townie. He has never had experience playing this game before. He probably felt a bit overwhelmed (hence why he later quit.)

So my question to you is why did you vote Ruunch?

Also Ziggler why did you decide to vote SlOosh over say WBG or LM or Hopeless?

I asked the questions in that manner because my reasons were completely different than Hapa's. I was doing what little I could to save Prom, short of blowing up at the thread and calling everyone stupid, which seems to be the go-to response these days. Hapa on the other hand has been touting his scum-Prom read and all of the sudden feels its a good idea to go after Ruuch as a policy lynch. I won't deny it was a stupid wagon, but I felt it was a better to lose him than Prom. I didn't read Ruuch as scum, I read him as expendable, in comparison to Prom. Hapa trying to equate our votes as being equally scummy:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 17 2013 05:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 05:17 Lazermonkey wrote:
Bugs, how do you go from:
On January 17 2013 01:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright, let's go for it. I actually like Hopeless's thoughts in his last post and Lazer looks much better because he pointed out something that I noticed too; in Hopeless's last game he played somewhat similar to this.

slOosh, on the other hand, is still scum.

##unvote
##vote slOosh
to
On January 17 2013 04:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright.

I'm feeling lazy so let's just kill Hopeless. I don't think anything is going to happen in the near future to make either read stronger and so it's just best to consolidate our votes rather than continue to inflate the thread with further pointless back-and-forths.

##unvote
##vote Hopeless1der
In just a couple of hours? And Hopeless didn't even say a thing during this time. Just you talking with Hapa and him calling the thread bad for not wanting to lynch Hopeless.

@Hapa: did you read hopeless filter from LVIII?


Yes I did. However that's only one game out of the multitude of his recent town games in which he played very aggressively.

In addition, I can't rationalize his stance on iamp from a town perspective:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=392955&currentpage=52#1022

Votes Ruuch, afks for the entire night cycle, comes back and says he thinks iamperfection is town for no reasoning, then proceeds to make arguments against me based on the "assumption" of iamp being town.

Furthermore, he stated that he didn't understand my reasoning for voting Ruuch, which is incredibly scummy considering that he voted Ruuch himself.

is a massive load of bull. I appreciate your efforts to put words in my mouth, like my "implied" super strong town read of Prom, while simultaneously disregarding Question the First.

Furthermore, the "assume you're town" was specifically TO iamperfection because he asked me to explain myself. Are you going to jump down his throat for this post?:
On January 16 2013 06:10 iamperfection wrote:
Do you still mantain he is scum?

If he was scum he would have had access to other players in order to coach him. If you look at his posts he is clearly lost and has no clue what he is doing.

Ill have to go back to the vote swaping when I get home because I now know that people were jumping from town to town.

Or does he get a free pass because he was speaking about himself?


Anyways, it seems I need to look towards self-preservation
##Unvote: Lazermonkey
##Vote: SlOosh




On January 17 2013 10:14 iamperfection wrote:
so what was your reasoning for your town read on me hopeless?

Primarily based on Ruuch's limited interactions with the thread.


@Hapa given what Hopeless said. Why did you vote for Ruunch? If you thought Prom was scum?
You see, it actually doesn't make any sense for you to be swapping your reads on Hopeless just because SlOosh slips SK. From scum PoV SlOosh looks just like a townie, so why would you actually change your read (town hopeless -> scum hopeless) because SlOosh flipped SK? Had SlOosh been town and Hopeless been scum, scum would have been just as inclined to save Hopeless as if Hopeless were scum and SlOosh SK. I think this logical faliure is a quite strong proof of that you cannot be town...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 11:03 GMT
#1949
On January 26 2013 10:52 wherebugsgo wrote:
where the fuck is xata?

Xata I want to know if you think jay + lazer is more likely than jay + grush.

I'm pretty much gonna rule out grush + lazer, I think that might be too simple.

WBG, if your only possible scum teams involve Jay (+me or grush) at this point I suggest we we kill Jay today then.
##Unvote
##Vote: jaybrundage
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 18:55 GMT
#1973
I disagree with me being a better option than grush today...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 18:59 GMT
#1976
On January 27 2013 03:29 wherebugsgo wrote:
Actually I think my statement had an unintended effect.

I do now think it's grush + Lazer again, because when I said that, Lazer swapped to you. He's ultra willing to kill you (as is grush)

Grush is seemingly not really willing to kill Lazer though, and vice versa too. It seems if they are presented with alternatives, they go for those alternatives. Lazer definitely seems the most opportunistic right now.

The two scum teams you thought were most possible at that point were Jay + me and Jay + grush and then it makes total sense to kill Jay, don't you think...?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 19:04 GMT
#1979
That I do want to kill jay? Yhea, you already knew that...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 19:05 GMT
#1980
On January 27 2013 04:03 grush57 wrote:
I'm toooooown :D.
I could lynch Lazer, atleast I know we won't be mislynching then.
On January 27 2013 02:59 grush57 wrote:
Well, the thread pretty much died. Scum were the more active members and now they lurk cuz of ez win :'(
WBG and Jay, gogogo
Lol...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 19:06 GMT
#1982
On January 27 2013 04:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
you make no effort at convincing us you're town.

You also make no effort at figuring out who is scum.

At this point I think I'm the only one who has entertained the possibility that you are town, grush, and quite honestly given your play I feel pretty stupid for it.
No, I'm considering it too. That's why I want to kill Jay first...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 19:08 GMT
#1983
100 pages!

It's time for

Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 19:15 GMT
#1989
On January 27 2013 04:13 jaybrundage wrote:
Also the fact that lazer is resisting the grush lynch. Even when he thinks the scum team is me and grush. Makes me feel more confident in a grush lazer scum team.
Yhea, you didn't read anything.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 19:18 GMT
#1992
On January 27 2013 04:18 grush57 wrote:
COMMAN JAY OR LAZER WHO WE GOING FOR WBG
Wasn't WBG scum just minutes ago?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 19:41 GMT
#1996
On January 27 2013 04:35 grush57 wrote:
You guys consult him for everything so why not ask him>
Yhea but we think he is town...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 19:46 GMT
#1999
On January 27 2013 04:43 grush57 wrote:
Exactly. You guys are mislynching me. Both Lazer and Jay have a chance of flipping scum.
So instead of actually trying to convince us that you are a misslynch you ask your scum read on who to vote?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 19:51 GMT
#2000
You know what? fuck this

##Unvote
##Vote: grush57
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 20:52 GMT
#2025
So WBG, why wouldn't you want to kill Jay then? My brain isn't functioning very well atm.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 20:55 GMT
#2029
On January 27 2013 05:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
if grush is town then why would it matter which one of you I try to kill? you're both scum.
Yhea, so you are okay with Jay lynch then?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 26 2013 20:57 GMT
#2031
WBG thinks Jay is scum.
I think Jay is scum
Xata is okay with lynching Jay
grush think(?) Jay is scum

=

Let's kill Jay!
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