Every man for himself Mafia

On January 08 2013 08:38 Dandel Ion wrote:

Okay, screw you, I'm not going to partner with you </3

On January 08 2013 23:04 iamperfection wrote:
want to just vote for no lynch?

Clearly that is what is going to happen why not just get it over with?

On January 08 2013 23:28 JieXian wrote:


how so? shoot me some theories please

On January 08 2013 23:48 iamperfection wrote:

what do you mean

On January 09 2013 00:31 JieXian wrote:
toad's calling himself the jester right there >_>



iamp how would know know that clarity knows his role?


dandel, don't get you:

On January 09 2013 23:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
Is clarity not here, or does he just not like me.

If he doesn't like me, I'm gonna be a sad panda.

On January 10 2013 00:24 Toadesstern wrote:

that's the sadest question I ever saw and I believe the answer is going to be even more sad.

On January 10 2013 01:26 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, let me get this straight:
Toad and Jiexian are anti-town roles right?

I take it iamp is the remaining one then?

Okay that makes the game easier for us I think

On January 13 2013 05:47 Dandel Ion wrote:

what if jie was the lyncher's target and we actually have 3 townies?

WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LYNCH!!!!
SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN
HOLY BALLS

On January 14 2013 00:53 Toadesstern wrote:

lies

On January 14 2013 02:00 Toadesstern wrote:

I didn't think you're the medic. I knew jieXiann was medic all along. He helped me after all

On January 14 2013 02:12 Toadesstern wrote:

because I had this won if everyone would have played accordingly to their wincons given knowledge of roles. So it's just that people didn't know what was going on and lynched randomly... which is frustrating.

On January 14 2013 02:15 gonzaw wrote:
Well clarity that "conspiracy thwory" i sent you would have tipped you at least wouldnt it?

On January 14 2013 02:15 Toadesstern wrote:


you had me down as mafia?

On January 14 2013 02:18 Toadesstern wrote:

well he didn't know I can only convert once a game. And I actually didn't know either or I would have converted him n2 instead of clarity...

It was like being hit by a truck when Palmar told me I can't Yak anymore

The point is: Noone was able to win this with knowledge of what was going on anymore besides me and the jester won because town fucked up royally

Okay, I need you to read this and not react yet in the thread since I haven't thought it through.
I am the lyncher, my target is gonzaw. You can't get lynched this cycle and you can kill dandel, then no lynch again and you can kill iamp (jester) then we lynch gonzaw and we win together.

On January 14 2013 02:39 Dandel Ion wrote:
Again, I stopped the conversion and didn't kill myself uselessly on the PGO night 1 (which I was really afraid of), so I'm okay with my own play.

The end was YOLO, but sometimes you just gotta YOLO.

On January 14 2013 02:39 Toadesstern wrote:


yeah I could have. But there's no way to figure out the lynchers target by hard facts. So that would have been an incredible betting game. Joining forces with the Jester was possible no matter what and as already said, a mathematically won game...

No I didn't get that pm in time. Wouldn't have mattered though, because it was on gonzaw and Dandel to unvote the jester and not on you.
Also I don't think I would have trusted you. Again no way to confirm your target and if I bring you into lylo you could just as well be lying and it's PGO + VT vs mafia whereas lylo with jester is a win for me and jester, so no reason for him to stab me in the back either.

On January 14 2013 02:47 JieXian wrote:


Ya.. after the first few trolls I had you as 3rd Party I ended up trolling too and it gets really boring after sometime because we knew nobody believed each other >_>

I had no idea who was the shrink

On January 14 2013 02:50 Dandel Ion wrote:

why was this even your goal?

You'd have had a better chance to win if you got converted.

On January 14 2013 02:52 Toadesstern wrote:

well as I just said...pretty much everything I told people in pm's about what I did at nights was true. And people kept telling me I'm a liar....

On January 14 2013 02:53 JieXian wrote:


ya when I told dandel that you told me he was the shrink he went on trolling

It worked. But I didn't really believe you (clairty) in the first place after knowing that you lied N1 =(

On January 14 2013 02:55 Toadesstern wrote:

I don't know? People realizing there isn't a need to play like a not-Yak for the Yak when the game is already over?

On January 14 2013 03:00 Toadesstern wrote:

I got really lucky n1 that I figured out everyone's role (besides screwing up lyncher <-> shrink). Without that it's fairly decent.

You've got a 1 in 3 chance to lynch into jester / lynchers target if you lynch d1 (assuming it'l work and as we just saw it does when people don't know what's going on...).

I've got a 1 in 5 chance to hit the PGO at night which makes town win.
I've got a 1 in 5 chance to convert the shrinked guy which is PRETTY much gg unless mafia has perfect knowledge of roles.

On January 14 2013 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote:

If you read the OP, you could also have

On January 14 2013 03:04 Toadesstern wrote:


same goes for you. I have infinite time to figure out people by pm'ing them, you can do the EXACT same thing as town.
I figured out people by taking the risk to shoot n1 because I thought I have to with everyone calling me a liar and the general unwillingness to talk with me in pms...

Wether I take the risk and shoot / convert into town or you take the risk and lynch doesn't change that much.

On January 14 2013 03:09 Toadesstern wrote:

You literally could not have lynched Jester or mafia this cycle either, yet it happened.

On January 14 2013 03:14 Toadesstern wrote:

the difference is that town thought you're a townie and thought it's possible to lynch mafia this cycle, which was not true?
Same could happen with the lyncher thinking someone is town REALLY strongly d1 and therefore giving into lynching the mafia.

On January 14 2013 03:17 JieXian wrote:


If they had went for toad you'd have lost right?

Then why did you claim

On January 14 2013 03:22 Toadesstern wrote:

a 4th townie makes it impossible for mafia to win.

On January 14 2013 03:25 JieXian wrote:


Hmm ok. Thing is he was convinced that you are the shrink and I don't know what you 2 said to each other. That's how you knew you were going to get NKed?

On January 14 2013 03:31 Toadesstern wrote:

change it to "either way it's a mafia win from his point of vie2 unless he wins right now himself".
I mean, I get what clarity did and he only had 2 options left to win. Sadly for me, he chose this one....

Had he just pm'ed me earlier about him being the lyncher he would have had a 50% chance to win because I win with either jester or lyncher and had to make one of those 2 lose. But that's still a 50% chance to win for him, hoping I'd pick him or hoping I wasn't in contact with the jester instead of his 1% chance to lynch gonzaw

On January 14 2013 03:33 JieXian wrote:


Town could have easily won with night actions alone

On January 14 2013 03:37 gonzaw wrote:
This game was kind of boring to.me.i had no night action and either nobody pmed.me/responded to my pms or they bullshited the hell out of me

i knew jiexian ciuld be fucking wiy me, but he.was the only one pming me so i still told him stuff

On January 14 2013 03:40 JieXian wrote:


They're supposed to make reads.....

eg, as the shrink, make yak think you're Doc and get him to convert you.
Yak must find out who is the PGO to survive NKs.
Doc must find out who is the yak to get turned to mafia or who is the shrink to lure the yak

and most of all, convince them.

I really like this game really, fucking shame I missed out that small part

On January 14 2013 03:47 Toadesstern wrote:

Didn't exactly help me either that I told everyone I'm going to kill you n1 to prove I'm mafia and yes, I actually did that :p

On January 14 2013 05:42 Dandel Ion wrote:

I call Worth It on the ending of this game, if just to make Toad salty.

Worth it.

On January 14 2013 06:41 gonzaw wrote:
In hindsight I think it would have been better to force Clarity to make the first vote on Toad/iamp "just in case".

If he refused to vote well we know we had no chance to do anything but maybe with the pressure he could give in and cast 1 vote, then me+dandel quickly hammer it (if it was on toad for instance)

On January 14 2013 06:45 JieXian wrote:


:D you were asking for it actually hahaha at that time I was supposedly teaming up with toad