Claiming I got turned vt was my best chance at getting gonzaw lynched, I just had to convince dandel that gonzaw was scum but I couldn't.

I got him to turn away from toad though, so eh....

This game was so hard for me

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:05 GMT

#646

I wonder if this setup is improved by adding one more town role so that a no lynch isnt forced, giving scum infinite time to figure stuff out.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:07 GMT

#649

Toad I never forwarded your pms to anyone but I told dandel I was medic so he obviously shrinked me.
This is why I agreed to your crappy plan of converting someone else first and then converting me (which you couldnt do) WHILE telling dandel that I would protect someone else and win the game cause you would die.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:08 GMT

#655

In order to make a lynch happen this cycle I had to claim that I turned town. If I try to lynch gonzaw and convince dandel to join me, then I instantly win if gonzaw was jester, or might still win if the scum believes my claim and hammered the gonzaw lynch.
If not then a no-lynch happens eventually.

This was the only situation where I got screwed over but I had to take the chance.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:10 GMT

#658

Toad is mad because I took a chance while playing to my wincondition? I had to get gonzaw lynched, I knew there was a really big chance he was pgo so he wasn't gonna get nightkilled. THIS WAS MY ONLY CHANCE WHY YOU RAGIN AT ME

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:12 GMT

#661

I understand dandel's vote because I talked him out of toad being scum but gonzaw's vote on iamp makes no sense to me at all

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:13 GMT

#663

On January 14 2013 02:12 Toadesstern wrote:

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because I had this won if everyone would have played accordingly to their wincons given knowledge of roles. So it's just that people didn't know what was going on and lynched randomly... which is frustrating.

I knew what was going on, you can ask palmar, I sent him the list of every role during n1 or n2 (don't remember)
I played to my wincon all the way

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:16 GMT

#669

On January 14 2013 02:15 gonzaw wrote:
Well clarity that "conspiracy thwory" i sent you would have tipped you at least wouldnt it?

Yeah, you were probably the pgo. I still had to lynch you though so I ignored it.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:16 GMT

#671

On January 14 2013 02:15 Toadesstern wrote:

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you had me down as mafia?

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:18 GMT

#676

No, with the new info of toad being scum you would have voted for him but I would not have hammered it, nor iamp. We wouldve been forced to no-lynch

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:19 GMT

#679

On January 14 2013 02:18 Toadesstern wrote:

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well he didn't know I can only convert once a game. And I actually didn't know either or I would have converted him n2 instead of clarity...

It was like being hit by a truck when Palmar told me I can't Yak anymore

The point is: Noone was able to win this with knowledge of what was going on anymore besides me and the jester won because town fucked up royally

Town fucks up or they don't. Isn't that every mafia game in existence?

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:21 GMT

#685

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:25 GMT

#693

Nobody can tell me I played bad, I feel really good about how I played. =]
gg guys, I really liked the setup, like I said though maybe add a 4th town role to not force a no-lynch till the end of time? Dunno.

Thanks for the game Palmar and co-host(s)!

What was this game like for obs?
Did you get to know what the night actions were?

Back later!

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:34 GMT

#710

I think your play made sense from a jester perspective, toad. If you are jester and you figure out who scum is and what their night actions are then you can claim them for yourself to everyone but scum and get yourself lynched.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:36 GMT

#712

Nah toad you also coulda won (in this setup) with Mafia + lyncher + pgo (since pgo is lyncher target)

Did you get my pm right before the game ended?

Okay, I need you to read this and not react yet in the thread since I haven't thought it through.
I am the lyncher, my target is gonzaw. You can't get lynched this cycle and you can kill dandel, then no lynch again and you can kill iamp (jester) then we lynch gonzaw and we win together.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:39 GMT

#718

At the very least I had lots of fun during the first cycle and the last cycle. Everything inbetween was sorta "eh"

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:40 GMT

#721

On January 14 2013 02:39 Dandel Ion wrote:
Again, I stopped the conversion and didn't kill myself uselessly on the PGO night 1 (which I was really afraid of), so I'm okay with my own play.

The end was YOLO, but sometimes you just gotta YOLO.

I called gonzaw's "masterplan" townie to get you to disagree with me, then I mentioned it again and expected you to push back harder and maybe get you to think gonzaw is scum but then YOU AGREED WITH ME.

Why do people only agree with me when I don't want them to.

Clarity_nl

Netherlands6826 Posts

January 13 2013 17:42 GMT

#724

On January 14 2013 02:39 Toadesstern wrote:

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yeah I could have. But there's no way to figure out the lynchers target by hard facts. So that would have been an incredible betting game. Joining forces with the Jester was possible no matter what and as already said, a mathematically won game...

No I didn't get that pm in time. Wouldn't have mattered though, because it was on gonzaw and Dandel to unvote the jester and not on you.
Also I don't think I would have trusted you. Again no way to confirm your target and if I bring you into lylo you could just as well be lying and it's PGO + VT vs mafia whereas lylo with jester is a win for me and jester, so no reason for him to stab me in the back either.

That's a fair point, but again my only chance at winning since the gonzaw lynch wasnt happening.
Were you actually convinced that I wasn't the lyncher when I claimed in thread?