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I am in favor of lynching the players that seem to be very clearly scum.
But as you said, they could be very easily town players. There are lurkers in both town and scum parties you know, and they all display the same outward behavior.
##FoS Mandalor
The reason why you arnt going after Acid~ or glurio is because you know that town wont lynch them today so there is no point is trying to push. HOWEVER, town may lynch your 2 'easy' targets and because they are 'easy', Easy meaning obvious scum lolololol. Your words, not mine.
We cant use today's lynch very beneficially.
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Im going to sleep now,
leaving you guys with 1 final thought,
Why do you think Mandalor was so active when I was questioning him but not really so active earlier when there was actually more to comment on, my vote on Mocsta, Mocsta's vote on me, bringaniga's nonsense.
See yall tmr.
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But I'm thinking town is going to lynch Trotske or laguerta? Noone ever mentioned any suspicions on them except for me afaik.
I've told you about what I think is pretty clearly scum behavior. It's not just being a lurker, it's the combination of lurking AND not contributing in the few posts they are making. I don't know what's so hard to understand about this.
And I very VERY much disagree with this:
We cant use today's lynch very beneficially.
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Vote Count!
If your vote is not properly formatted it will not be counted. Everyone is required to vote.
bringaniga (2) - shz, Oatsmaster
Acid~ (1) - OmniEulogy
Mocsta (0) - Oatsmaster
Oatsmaster (0) - Mocsta
Sn0 Man (1) - Mocsta
Not Voting (9) - lots of people
Currently, bringaniga is set to be lynched! If you see that your vote is incorrect then pm me. You have about 11 hours 30 minutes left to vote! Deadline is at 04:00 GMT (+00:00)
Count done via phone so let me know if I missed anyone.
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Mocsta:
On Mandalor:
He was gone the first day, but this seems excusable since anyone can have a busy saturday. After that he seems to be trying to contribute. I don't read his play as particulary scummy just yet.
On your confirmation bias:
You did seem to be stuck on Oats a little too long. You gave that up though which I think is a good sign.
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I'm gonna be posting more later. Going to be voting either sn0 or oats I think. I'll give the lurkers and bringaniga one more day and hope they get killed by a vigilante or SK.
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##Vote Acid~
I am voting for a lurker for a couple of reasons:
1) If they haven't found reason to post yet, a push to lynch them had better; otherwise, we know that they will NEVER post
2) While I like to think scum would have posted by now, last game proves that isn't necessarily true; the worst lurkers are just as likely to be scum.
3) I worry that lurkers who are let go will continue to taint reads for the rest of the game -- the possibility of them being scum will always be in the back of town's minds, and scum can get away with "pressuring" them as a "contribution," and the thread will be stuffed full of lurker pressuring and absent of the lurker's discussion.
4) We will be absent of their contributions either way
5) Scum will know they can't get away with super-minimal contribution, and that the town is aware of how much they participate, potentially forcing them to post more
That's what's going through my head. I want to avoid getting wrapped up in the stupid OMGUSing and encourage others to be active in the thread. Right now the best way I see to do that is to punish the person who is contributing the least, and through inaction, acting directly against the town.
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I'm gonna put in my vote, in case I don't have a chance to get it in later:
##Vote: Sn0_Man
There is a lot of lurky people that also should be kicked out of this game if they keep it up, but I'm gonna give them a little more time.
I detailed my problems with Sn0 in an earlier post and since then he added only more lurkiness to his resume.
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Vote Count: Because I Can.
If your vote is not properly formatted it will not be counted. Everyone is required to vote.
bringaniga (2) - shz, Oatsmaster
Acid~ (2) - OmniEulogy, Zarepath
Mocsta (0) - Oatsmaster
Oatsmaster (0) - Mocsta
Sn0 Man (2) - Mocsta, Zebezt
Not Voting (7) - Mandalor, Shz, Laguerta, Trotske, Acid~, Glurio, Bringaniga
Currently, bringaniga is set to be lynched! If you see that your vote is incorrect then pm me. You have about 10 hours left to vote! Deadline is at 04:00 GMT (+00:00).
Give me a shout if the time tag works/doesn't work for you guys, or if I missed any votes. Thanks!
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The following players have not met the word count minimum and must be replaced or terminated in indiscriminate order:
Acid~
glurio
bringaniga
Approximately two hours before the end of day 1, I will submit a vote for whichever of the above three have the most votes at the time.
My methods are complex, remember! Players who refuse to participate exponentially compound my uncertainty.
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On January 13 2013 22:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
A question for you zebezt,
Why wouldnt our top 2 vote targets be our top scum reads??
Forgot to answer this.
Some people like to policy vote out lurkers.
For example Acid has a vote now, while he didnt even post a thing, making it impossible to have any read on him at all.
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I was asleep then out shopping, I Am catching up on the last four pages then will post my take on the more scummy people / lurkers.
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First I'm going to respond to Mandalor and his read about me.
On January 14 2013 00:49 Mandalor wrote:
Please read my my post concerning my reads on them again.
They show standard scum traits:
* low quality posts, no reads
* lurky, but not to a point where they're completely inactive
I feel that my posts are pretty good when it comes to Quality and I don't care about Quantity because I feel that if I post fluff it is useless and posting just so people won't try to lynch me is not pro town. I felt the I didn't have anything to contribute earlier and then went to bed before like 4 pages of posts came up I
I feel that lynching anyone day1 that is active is a waste because the more they talk the more likely there will be a scum slip.
The person I want to lynch as of right now is Sn0_man.
Sn0_man made a bad environment at the start of the game by attacking players instead of answering questions polity and then hasn't posted in the last 36 hours? Not only is that lurking that also scummy and then not active make him the most useless player in the game only hurting town the leaving.
##Vote Sn0_Man
This may change if he posts more before the deadline.
I don't have much of a read on a lot of other people but If bringaniga doesn't shape up his game I want to lynch him or one of the other full time professional lurkers aka Acid or glurio.
I would like to wait to go after the more active players until we can build stronger cases on them.
I am honestly having a hard time deciding who looks scummy I plan on going in depth on the people who have posted more in the next few hours
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On January 14 2013 03:04 bringaniga wrote:
The following players have not met the word count minimum and must be replaced or terminated in indiscriminate order:
Acid~
glurio
bringaniga
Approximately two hours before the end of day 1, I will submit a vote for whichever of the above three have the most votes at the time.
My methods are complex, remember! Players who refuse to participate exponentially compound my uncertainty.
So, basically apart from trolling, you want to lynch a lurker which gives us 0 information. I'm not a huge fan of lynching annoying people to get rid of them, but you make a damn good case for it.
##Vote: bringaniga
Shape up and I'll change my vote.
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I will be here for another 2 or 3 hours.
I like your last post, Trotske, but I'd still like to hear your opinion on the other players.
Concerning my vote (and I'm sorry I'm using two posts for this): We absolutely need to pressure trolls. This is unacceptable behavior if he's town and he's not going to help us at all if he continues to play like this. I would LOVE if he starts contributing and I'd switch in an instant.
Considering there's not much support for my semi-case against laguerta, bringaniga is my best candidate for now.
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I will present a hypothesis for one possible solution if the players wish.
Give me time to prepare.
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##Unvote I'm happy that there is a lot to read, and that I didn't have to work till 7  (lynch deadline) I'm going through it all right now, it's quite a bit of reading but I should be done shortly.
I did notice something while I was reading so I'll address it.
@Mocsta I was in a rush and the thought of a no-lynch didn't actually cross my mind. I put my vote on Acid~ because I felt positive that nobody would follow it. If I hadn't been able to come back and he did get lynched though, even if he flipped town it would do 0 damage to us, that was my thought process behind voting for him as I had about 5 minutes to decide who to vote for at the time that I did.
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I have no idea who that is.
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On January 14 2013 05:12 Mandalor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2013 03:04 bringaniga wrote:
The following players have not met the word count minimum and must be replaced or terminated in indiscriminate order:
Acid~
glurio
bringaniga
Approximately two hours before the end of day 1, I will submit a vote for whichever of the above three have the most votes at the time.
My methods are complex, remember! Players who refuse to participate exponentially compound my uncertainty. So, basically apart from trolling, you want to lynch a lurker which gives us 0 information. I'm not a huge fan of lynching annoying people to get rid of them, but you make a damn good case for it. ##Vote: bringanigaShape up and I'll change my vote.
How do you feel about sn0_man and my case for him.
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