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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 00:14 GMT
#1028
On January 09 2013 08:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Pretty much Yamato's scumreads this game are people that have "done nothing"

I still haven't seen him ever mention Jay at all...

I honestly expect him to pull me up as his scumread. We have a pretty good town circle jerk atm.

@CC so who are your two top scum reads.

Who out of Shiapi and Yamato would you want to lynch?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 00:26 GMT
#1030
On January 09 2013 09:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I''ll be honest it's hard to read Yamato becacuse of our history. The fact that he's only ever wanted to lynch Mr. Z is not good, as he is probably the easiest person to call scum. His pressure on me feels... I can't really describe it. But it' somehow different than our other games. I really can't put my finger on it

SP is just a lurker. In my experience, hardcore lurkers like him end up flipping town. I already gave my stance on his paranoid defending himself, but he's still not a good lynch for today.

Jay, why did you let DP make a case on me,, when you said you would? Why would you let someone who could have been scum make that case instead of yourself?

Laziness
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 00:27 GMT
#1031
@CC also from what i heard about Shaiopi's meta he apparently lurks pretty hard as scum. I actually tend to do the same thing.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 01:16 GMT
#1041
Would you guys be down to lynch Yamato Tonite?

Unfortunetly Shiapi hasn't chimed in much.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 01:58 GMT
#1080
On January 09 2013 10:52 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 10:40 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'd totally lynch yamato.

Other scum most likely Zbo.


Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 10:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 09 2013 10:46 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 09 2013 10:44 Dandel Ion wrote:
On January 09 2013 10:43 Hapahauli wrote:
What, are you town? Cause I think your PM says the opposite >>

I am.
Tho i understand you thinking otherwise.


How caught-up are you into the game? You mentioned notes, but you basically called the two confirmed townies + the most obv-town player in the thread town so far. That's... not much.

I did follow pretty closely up to... uhm night 1? or so then I kinda stopped. still read it casually tho

I'm a bit tipsy atm, and not fully caught up, so I don't wanna vote pplz yet. Feel free to hammer him in the meantime if your so eager.

I'm just gonna post the notes i did so far straight.
I did em for me tho, so if ya dont understand something, jsut ask


:/

LOL
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 03:03 GMT
#1131
On January 09 2013 12:00 MrZentor wrote:
I'm starting to feel like Hapa is the only one who can read me. :/

Its ok Zentor i wont lynch you D:
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 04:52 GMT
#1141
Hapa I thought you were convinced on Zentor as a town read. Is there anything that changed your mind specifically. I think that DP's input was one of them. Was there anything else?

About ShaioPi he was pretty damn lurky, But i hear his scum meta is to lurk what gives do you still see him as a possible lynch. Replacement players throw a wrench in things cause its like the player is given a new slate and I find that its hard to use posts from before cause the new player has no idea why the previous player put them down. TBH havent played with much replacements and thats what I seem to b feeling.

CC you have been kinda lurky as late. Do you still want to lynch Yamato. Whats your thoughts on Shaio/Ion and Zentor atm?
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 04:54 GMT
#1142
On January 09 2013 12:03 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 11:58 DarthPunk wrote:
On January 09 2013 11:51 Hapahauli wrote:
@ DP

Who do you think is scum right now DP?


Two of dandel, Jay, MR Z

MAYBE, MAYBE ZB is in that group. But that is a far more difficult proposition.

Also. Hapa CC and I are all confirmed town. So you can trust our intentions completely if you are town.


I think Dandel has the highest chance of flipping scum. The problem is, lynching replacements early is generally a terrible play.

Why is that? Im assuming becasue they offer a different view of the players objective or motives are?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 06:03 GMT
#1145
On January 09 2013 14:27 yamato77 wrote:
Jay, who do you want to lynch?

At the moment I would vote for you or Ion. I actually agree with Zentor on his townie list. Its a process of elimination but tbh it think it should work fine. We have two confirmed blues with no scum counter claim, hapa who if scum then we all fucked.

That leaves Zentor, Yamato, Ion, Z-Boson. I agree with Zentors reads sporatic as they may b.

So that leaves You, Ion and Z-Boson.

I am not sure about Z-Boson but a couple of townies have a town read on him. So No go for that lynch today.

And that leaves you and Ion TBH i thought this would have been over with yet cause the lynch goes thru if its HAPA approved.



@Yamato
What was your motive for lynching Xatalos btw with out waiting for the town to come to an agreement?

Do you feel comfortable voting for Ion, Why or why not?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 18:17 GMT
#1157
On January 10 2013 02:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'm pretty sure the 2 scum are between Zentor, Zbo, and jay.

Now to try and figure out which.....

What made you change your read on ShiaoPi? Besides the obv ofc. Also you proclaimed Yamato was scum earlier what changed.

@Yamato My read changed after the process of elimination. I have done a bit of sheeping I admit, however I do kinda agree with Zentors reads of the town regardless if he can be occasionally trolly.

On my post after the lynch I already explained it. I said scummy wasn't the right word. I think really stupid or dumb would of sufficed better, and yes i was not happy after that lynch. You guys made a vote on someone that I had no real scum read on. Hammering when we hadn't reach an agreement as town wasn't smart. I also think that scum were on the wagon for Xatalos.

On January 07 2013 08:14 Blazinghand wrote:
Final Vote Count


Xatalos (5): Mr.Cheesecake, ShiaoPi, Z-Boson, Mr. Cheesecake, MrZentor, Yamato77
Mr. Cheesecake (2): Yamato77, jaybrundage, Xatalos
yamato77 (0): Xatalos, MrZentor

Hapahauli (0): Yamato77, MrZentor
Z-Boson (0): ShiaoPi, DarthPunk
jaybrundage (0): DarthPunk
DarthPunk (0): Hapahauli
MrZentor (0): Mr. Cheesecake
ShiaoPi (0): jaybrundage, Xatalos

-
Not Voting (2): Hapahauli, DarthPunk

5 votes are required to lynch.

No posting until night post.


Assuming Hapa is townie or da best scummy eva and assuming that the blue claims are real as they haven't been counter claimed then we have 3 townies. 4 including me as i know for my self that i am town. That leaves 2 scum on the Xatalos wagon.

Out of these 4 ShiaoPi, Z-Boson, Mr.Zentor, and Yamato.

I believe that Mr.Zentor is town atm.

So that leaves ShiaoPi, Z-Boson, and Yamato as possible scum. So that is a big reason I can see you being scum Yamato. Process of Elimination. I'm going to do more looking and see if I can't narrow my reads town.

Yamato I would very much like your reads on Z-Boson and ShiaoPi/Dandel plz

Also Z-boson and Dandel plz give reads on the other two people in this group. Thx
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 18:20 GMT
#1158
Man i feel like I missed a big opportunity to use red txt D:
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 18:36 GMT
#1162
Saying scum rarely pile all there members onto a single mislynch is WIFOM.

Also there is only two scum as well so it becomes alot easier to accomplish this.

Also I also have a PM and mine is actually green

We both know that regardless of your alignment you would have to claim town ofc.

Also Z-Boson you have kind of declined in activity. Thoughts on ShiaoPi and Dandel plz
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 18:41 GMT
#1165
On January 10 2013 03:37 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 08:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok so based on what we got we have two candidates for lynch today.

Shiaopi and Yamato

Shaiopi has been lurking alot still.

Yamato was going after CC but after the recent claim. Has decided to go after Zentor. A person that Im slowly beginning to appreciate. :D

Going after weak/lurky/trolly townies is a pretty big scum tell. As they aren't scum but are usually lurky and scummy so easy to mislynch. Its no small reason that I have been pushed by many a scum.

I have a third candidate in mind if one of yamato or shaiopi dont flip red.

Do we have a time/date we want to consolidate on?



Why are you ignoring any discussion on him, and just state that you are beginning to "appreciate" him? What is there to appreciate?

I think i get his play style more. And I would go so far as to say that i think he is a townie. Part of it is his town read on me. And part of it is his reads in general. Also this devil may care attitude while risky seems to me like a townie that was florishing under Hapa's town read. I don't think that someone scummy who gets a town read would be quite so bold.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 19:53 GMT
#1185
On January 10 2013 04:44 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 04:37 Z-BosoN wrote:
On January 10 2013 04:33 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 10 2013 04:25 Z-BosoN wrote:
On January 10 2013 03:41 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 10 2013 03:37 Z-BosoN wrote:
On January 09 2013 08:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok so based on what we got we have two candidates for lynch today.

Shiaopi and Yamato

Shaiopi has been lurking alot still.

Yamato was going after CC but after the recent claim. Has decided to go after Zentor. A person that Im slowly beginning to appreciate. :D

Going after weak/lurky/trolly townies is a pretty big scum tell. As they aren't scum but are usually lurky and scummy so easy to mislynch. Its no small reason that I have been pushed by many a scum.

I have a third candidate in mind if one of yamato or shaiopi dont flip red.

Do we have a time/date we want to consolidate on?



Why are you ignoring any discussion on him, and just state that you are beginning to "appreciate" him? What is there to appreciate?

I think i get his play style more. And I would go so far as to say that i think he is a townie. Part of it is his town read on me. And part of it is his reads in general. Also this devil may care attitude while risky seems to me like a townie that was florishing under Hapa's town read. I don't think that someone scummy who gets a town read would be quite so bold.


This makes zero sense. Scum are much more likely to give townreads. It is also troubling on how convinced he seems to be. I need some confirmation from you hapa, but in witchcraft did he also insistently just keep saying "I know he is town, I know he is scum, lynch him"? Because that sums up a large portion of what Mr.Z has been doing lately.
Also, his attitude is anti-town, he doesn't promote discussion with it and doesn't add anything.


Surely you can read through his Witchcraft game and find this out for yourself no?


Or I can save time by asking a quasi-confirmed townie who's played with him on something that's pretty much a yes or no question >.<

I'll add that to my todo list


Sorry, but I need to see you do analysis. It also would take all of 10 minutes.

Hapa do you want to consolidate on Dandel? I would prefer you spear headed this lynch instead of letting scum do it.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 20:49 GMT
#1201
On January 10 2013 05:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
Too bad jay doesn't have the balls to call me scum to my face.
He has to wait for mommy Hapa to do it for him.

Come on jayjay.
I'm sure you have VEEEEEEERY good resons for lynching me.
Bring em on.

Lol petty insulting really.
I think your scum. Is that enough for ya? I have given my reasons on my feelings for the lynch and they are very much using elimination to narrow down candidates. Im not sure how town view this way of scum hunting. But I think its perfectly applicable.
So you think that zbo could be scum and that yamato is town interesting...

The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 20:55 GMT
#1204
On January 10 2013 05:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
So why do you go for me, Hapas lynch of choice, with the reasoning that I just sheep Hapas opinion?

Have you heard of the principle of "hypocrisy"?
And how do you plan on explaining that it's such a sure scumtell on me, but doesn't apply to you?

What?

Your not even speaking coherently anymore....

No Im not planning to vote you cause your sheeping Hapa's opinion. I have never mentioned that before....

Have you heard the principle of "reading the thread"

Go read my posts if you want to know why i would be down for lynching you. Until you start reading my posts it's useless to try to defend your self. Until you know where im coming from. I'll give you a hint its the process of elimination.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 20:58 GMT
#1206
On January 10 2013 05:53 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 05:49 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 10 2013 05:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
Too bad jay doesn't have the balls to call me scum to my face.
He has to wait for mommy Hapa to do it for him.

Come on jayjay.
I'm sure you have VEEEEEEERY good resons for lynching me.
Bring em on.

Lol petty insulting really.
I think your scum. Is that enough for ya? I have given my reasons on my feelings for the lynch and they are very much using elimination to narrow down candidates. Im not sure how town view this way of scum hunting. But I think its perfectly applicable.
So you think that zbo could be scum and that yamato is town interesting...


No that is not enough by far.

You said the words, but it's probably the weakest reasoning I've seen. Even weaker than Zbobo's lolread.
If you wanna bus me, do it properly.

What??? rofl are you insinuating that your scum and that im your partner.... I dont even... Is this your ploy to make me look scummy after we lynch you. It doesnt even make sense tho. Cause you would be playing against your wincon...

As town why would you say this... I dont see any reasons.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 20:59 GMT
#1208
On January 10 2013 05:56 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 05:55 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 10 2013 05:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
So why do you go for me, Hapas lynch of choice, with the reasoning that I just sheep Hapas opinion?

Have you heard of the principle of "hypocrisy"?
And how do you plan on explaining that it's such a sure scumtell on me, but doesn't apply to you?

What?

Your not even speaking coherently anymore....

No Im not planning to vote you cause your sheeping Hapa's opinion. I have never mentioned that before....

Have you heard the principle of "reading the thread"

Go read my posts if you want to know why i would be down for lynching you. Until you start reading my posts it's useless to try to defend your self. Until you know where im coming from. I'll give you a hint its the process of elimination.

That was @Zbo.

In the future plz label open ended respones
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 21:16 GMT
#1215
On January 10 2013 06:05 Dandel Ion wrote:
@jay:
But since it's only process of elimination for you, jay.
Why don't you have more?
Why don't you make up something better?

If you want me lynched, you gotta do shit for it.
Make the case of ages. Since I'm apparantly such an obvious scummer, shouldn't be too hard for you to find something on me.

Or are you scared of how you will look after my flip? That shouldn't be necessary, you're so very sure I'm scum after all.

Take responsibility for your own action.

If you don't give me a good reason why I'm scum, then you're scum too.

Well were both scum according to you.

I never said your an obvious scummer don't put words in my mouth. I used who i thought was town to narrow down who is most likly scum. Similar to what Zentor did. You say that im very sure your scum again. I dont have an amazing read on you. Havent i made that clear? Its that I put out who i think is town. And i have three people left and your the scummiest atm.


I have nothing to fear about your flip. OMGUSing much.

People as scum usually go on me for an easy mislynch. Often times I would exclude them as scum for who knows what reason but im trying to learn to use it to my advantage. As scum you find me an easy mislynch.

Also i think that lynching you will give alot of information to the thread after you flip red. Then we can easily turn to Yamato or Z-Boson afterward and see whos next for scum. It will be interesting finding out if you tried to lynch your scum partner to make people think hes town or go the other way of WIFOM and say hes town so people think your trying ot make people look scummy.
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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 09 2013 21:21 GMT
#1220
On January 10 2013 06:18 MrZentor wrote:
So do you guys want to kill Yamato or Dandel?

I was planning on killing Yamato first, but recently Dandel has been spamming the thread with FIVE posts in a row.

And it's getting kind of annoying.

Hey Zentor Thoughts on the posts between dandel and me and Zbo and dandel?
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