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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 00:44 GMT
#371
I feel pressured.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 00:47 GMT
#375
I can't do much if we're never lynching anybody...
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 01:03 GMT
#378
So when do you plan on lynching somebody?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 01:10 GMT
#382
Go ahead, Mr. CC.

Go ahead.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 01:11 GMT
#384
Your request is far too vague.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 02:07 GMT
#419
Hapa, you never said what you think of yourself.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 02:09 GMT
#421
##Vote: Hapahauli.

Afraid to comment on himself.

Probably scum.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 02:17 GMT
#423
I like to wait until the second day. c:
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 02:20 GMT
#426
It's hard to consider it the second day when nobody's died.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 02:23 GMT
#427
There's too little information to make an accurate lynch first day; we're just wasting time by delaying it.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 02:27 GMT
#430
Yeah, he's town.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 02:52 GMT
#435
On January 06 2013 11:29 jaybrundage wrote:
Btw zentor who do you want to lynch. Plz anyone just give a name at least if you cant give a case.

My idea is that we enact a new policy lynch called. Lynch Useless Mutha Fuckas called LUMF :D Ahem also wouldn't mind LUMFing CC

That or we can just lynch a lurker zzz


How would you guys feel about lynching a lurker then?


We have four confirmed townies so far.

MrZentor, Hapa, DP, and Jay

So I'd be fine with killing any of the others really. I just want to get to the second day already.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 03:40 GMT
#437
I am actually right. They are all confirmed town.

And your definition of what's "scummy" is really messed up.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 17:34 GMT
#513
The four main suspects are Mr. CC, Shiaopi, Yamato, and Xatalos.

Mr. CC

+ Show Spoiler +

He's probably town, and there are two main reasons for me to think that.

1. He's carefree and open, especially during the opening of the game.
On January 04 2013 12:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Mr.Z we're masoned you dummy. ShiaoPi obv scum right?

On January 05 2013 10:19 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hey yeah yeah yeah Hey yeah, I said HEY! What's going on?!

Home from my shift and such. Reading the shitfest that is DP-Hapa (kind of sounds like a porno) interaction atm and catching up.

Questions, people, questions. Anyone?

On January 05 2013 12:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Oh hey Hapa whats up. I need someone to talk to. Wanna cuddle? What you think of Yamato going full retard right now?


2. Two of the other suspects targeted him early in the game. Although it is possible one of them was faking this aggression, it is unlikely, because of all the risks that come with it. If the scum faking aggression toward Mr.CC gets lynched and doesn't do a good job of faking it, then it will be obvious that Mr. CC is scum with him.

On January 05 2013 12:37 yamato77 wrote:
Do people really think it was that difficult to understand what I said?

Anyway CC your case is bad and I think you're faking this read. I don't think Xatalos is that scummy, but he is an easy target.

CC is scummy.

##Vote: Mr Cheesecake



Mr. Cheesecake

Who was he again? I only remembered him after rereading the thread a couple of times. He hasn't actually taken stances on anything that matters (not counting obvious stuff like "we should lynch the scummiest player"). What I'm most worried about is his complete lack of presence - he's basically casually lurking without being too obvious. I'm unwilling to judge him yet, but he isn't looking good so far.

From Xatalos.

It is possible that he is scum with ShiaoPi, but I find this unlikely considering his early game behavior.


Yamato

+ Show Spoiler +

His early game play seems a lot like an earnest, noobie townie.

On January 04 2013 16:41 yamato77 wrote:
I'm not sure how the logic is strange.

You told me it was difficult to think in IRC because there was no time.

You advocate making longer, more thought out decisions in this game because of the instant lynch mechanic.

I don't know why you guys think this is a big deal.


On January 04 2013 17:32 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 17:16 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 04 2013 17:10 yamato77 wrote:
I agree, the hammer vote should definitely be looked at. With that in mind, I'm not sure why CC says this:

On January 04 2013 11:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:42 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 04 2013 11:01 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay

Any other thoughts on what Rise and I have discussed over the first pages of the thread? Day length, hammer votes, or anything really.


We should lynch someone when we feel confident they are mafia.

We should always be aware of the hammer vote. People should be responsible for there hammer vote.

We shouldn't rush a lynch cause we lost discussions to read people with.

Policy Lynches rarely work so we should refrain from doing them.

Pretty straight forward imo.


So the hammer vote takes full responsibility for the lynch? Everyone who votes is responsible, not just the hammering guy.

Why does CC not want us to put emphasis on the hammer vote? It is prime opportunity for differentiating scum from town yet he thinks it isn't?


Regarding the bolded, in what way would you say it is a "prime opportunity [to] differentiate" alignments? Give me some examples.

Also, I think you're just shoving words in CC's mouth. He's saying that we shouldn't shift disproportionate responsibility on the person who hammers on a lynch, and I don't see what's wrong about that statement.

What is disproportionate responsibility? I think there's plenty of reason to give the hammer more look than other votes. It is the act of making the decision to lynch someone, it makes the player into the executioner. The use of the hammer vote is perhaps the most important thing in this game.

You said so yourself and now you seem to disagree with me? Why?


On January 06 2013 00:06 yamato77 wrote:
I will admit I'm not paying as much attention to this game as I should.

Honestly my vote on CC was to get a better read on him. Up to that point I thought he was a bit scummy so I figured his reaction to me voting for him out of nowhere might reveal to me his alignment. It turns out it didn't, but some of the things he has said since then have swayed my opinion.

I'm fairly confident in Hapa being town, so as far as active scum I don't think there are any. Jay is the only one I would question because his posts have a quality that makes them seem quiet, almost like his opinion isn't something to be valued. Is he scum trying to stay under the radar or just a weak townie?

No I'm much more inclined to think a scum lies between Mr Zentor and Rise. Zentor hasn't contributed much besides a lot of setup talk and town reads. His filter is low content, low profile, very much like I think the scum are this game.

Rise simply hasn't posted much since the beginning if the game and it is starting to make me question his motivations.


Also, the way he pushes me makes me think he's a noob townie. I would expect newer players to think I'm scum, because of a lot of the things I do are obviously scummy.

On January 06 2013 17:58 yamato77 wrote:
Mr Zentor

He's only given a lot of town reads and acted impatient about lynching people. His filter is full of one liners that provide little reasoning for what he wants to do this game aside from Lynch people. He seems more preoccupied with there being a lynch than who is going to be lynched. He hasn't helped town find who they should lynch, either. Hapa says he's a bored townie but he looks like a scum just waiting for an excuse to hammer a townie lynch.





Xatalos
+ Show Spoiler +

He is pretty uptight, but he makes some good points in his massive cases; he and ShiaoPi are equally likely to be scum.

Well, for starters, I think you're most likely town. I can't believe a Mafia would outpost everyone in the thread and engage in every possible topic. Does that make DarthPunk Mafia in my eyes? Not really. I agree with many things he says, and his filter just reads fairly townish to me - this post for example:


In any case, I'm pretty satisfied with your responses. Your counter-arguments to my (pretty weak) arguments for your scumminess are what I'd expect from a townie: calm, collected, reasonable. Combined with Hapahauli's recommendation to wait on you, I don't see you as a good lynch at the moment.


Welcome, Z-Boson! I'm glad you're being very townish and contributive so far, which means we have one less player out of the lynching table (I didn't like lynching RiseAgain either, but this is a much easier judgement than that).




ShiaoPi

+ Show Spoiler +

Either he or Xatalos is scum, I'm not sure which. It's pretty unlikely that they're both scum, considering how they both made cases on why the other is scum.

He parks his vote on a lurker.

On January 05 2013 12:14 ShiaoPi wrote:
Hmm looks like RiseAgain has still not responded....
Anyway moving onto the matters more at hand for now.
I don't think that DP or Hapa are scum, it feels much more like townies at each others throats for minor things. While I can see where both are coming from during the exchange I does kind of worry me that DP does not follow up with a vote as Hapa does. Does not seem to fit when he calls him scum more than once earlier.

@Mr.CC
Xatalos is kind of a lynchbait in itself. He is not that easy to read (at least for me), but what I have seen so far from him does not really convince me on his scumminess. From time to time he does these 180-turns but usually it is because he lays his entire thoughtprocess out and therefore every nook and turn of his mind is in the thread. He is nullish right now.

I want to see more from RiseAgain, so

##Vote: RiseAgain
get in here and do something please!


But he also waffles over Xatalos, which makes me think he could be town.

On January 06 2013 17:15 ShiaoPi wrote:
Okay finally got some time to give out some thoughts.

First off welcome Z-Boson, good to have a active replacement!
Moving on to some housekeeping:
DP's reactions since I was gone seem to me pretty townie, by extension Hapa seems town as well with the entire thoughtprocess behind tunneling being revealed. So I am retracting my scum-leaning read that I had on DP earlier.

I am interested currently in these people:
yamato
Xatalos
MrZ

yamato:
There are many things which would probably be me reiterating stuff that was mentioned (discrepancy in behaviour as hapa said). Not being really present, throwing votes around with little reasoning. But that can be explained by his lack of time due to RL business. could really use more analysis and reasoning from him.

Xatalos:
I said earlier that Xatalos is a lynchbait. That is because he is hesitating a lot, laying out a lot of his thoughts in the thread and therefore opening himself up for harsh critique if he changes his mind and posts it. His lack of any stance is alarming though. While it is somewhat just his playstyle (IIRC) I still dislike it a lot, I mean day 1 has been going for quite a long time now already, while we did not get more information through lynching there is still a lot of content to search through and find something.

MrZ:
He is useless, which is stupidly just his meta with the lightheartedness he has shown. I don't like useless people but cannot condemn him based on this.

Actually I started this post with wanting to lynch into Xata/yamato preferrably yamato but now that I am writing those reads feel just unsatisfying...There is nothing really much that distinguishes one option from the other. I am reluctant to lynch yamato since he seems legitimately busy, also relcutant to lynch Xata for just playing as he does (same goes for MrZ).
Somehow this day 1 has not been really productive >_>





Who we should lynch.

+ Show Spoiler +

I don't know which one we should lynch, but I know what we should do if each one is lynched.

.....................................Xatalos.................................................................................................Shiaopi............
................................../.....................\........................................................................................./..........\............
........................flips scum..........flips town..................................................................flips scum.....flips town...........................
...........................|............................|............................................................................./...............................\..................................
......find scum partner..............lynch Shia.....................................................lynch MrCC..............lynch Xatalos-.flips.scum .....
................................................../............\....................................................../..................\..............................|........................|
.....................................flips town......flips scum.............................flips scum............flips town...........flips town.......find scum
....................................|.................................|.....................................|............................|........................../.......................partner
...start suspecting people......................lynch MrCC....................win..............start suspecting people....................
...like Hapa and Boson............................/...............\.........................................like Hapa and Boson
..........................................................flips scum.......flips town...........................................................................................
........................................................./............................|...................................................................
....................................................win...................start suspecting people.....................................
............................................................................like Hapa and Boson.....................................
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 17:35 GMT
#514
I'm obv town.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 18:08 GMT
#518
Yeah, I'm having a lot of difficulty reading the four of you, which is why I said for a long time that I'd be fine with any of you dying.

And people who push for my lynch are almost always scum. :/

idk
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 18:12 GMT
#521
I'm pretty sure it's all wrong.

##Unvote: Hapahauli
##Vote: Yamato
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 19:39 GMT
#535
Can we kill either yamato or Xatalos today?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 19:49 GMT
#540
But we can kill somebody today, right?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 06 2013 19:56 GMT
#546
Mr. CC

The person I want to lynch is probably the person I'm voting for.

And Hapa, you never answered me. Can we lynch somebody today, plleeeeeeasssssee?
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