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On January 05 2013 15:37 Hapahauli wrote:
So regarding Jay's stuff on DP... it doesn't look very good. It looks a lot like he's trying to shovel shit on DP.
After Hero Mini, my view on Jay is that he's lynch-bait, so I'm rather hesitant about lynching him. Right now, I'm unsure how likely his behavior is coming from a "town-Jay." His play on it's face is scummy, but I really need to hear more from him.
@ Jay
What do you make of my newly disclosed town-read on DP? Agree or disagree?
Secondly, your quote accusing DP of assuming I was town was very clearly mis-interpreting his actions (in which he very clearly qualified as only IF I was town). It doesn't look very good. Explain yourself.
First off you said you have done this before how many times have you done this tunneling on DP and out of the times you have done it how many times have you been wrong. If you play with DP alot and you can read him consistently then I will reconsider my position.
The reason I find him scummy as been said before. Is his flip flopping on Hapa from hes obv completly with out a doubt scum to i have no fucking idea. It seemed to me like scum backing off of a mislynch they were pushing gone wrong. I personally put alot less faith in reading people's reactions to when they are about to be or going to be lynched.
The quote was me being frustrated with DP's flip flopping he has gone from scum to town to scum now giving someone townie cred for the possibility of one of his scum reads being town. So yes he did change his opinion on hapa again. I didnt say anything wrong.
Also I dont like CC hes doing absolutely nothing this game.
He has made some worthless comments about concentrating on finding scum. He was mentioning the DP-Hapa conversations early one with out giving his opinion on him hasn't commentated much on it when DP was doing some scummy stuff.
On January 05 2013 11:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
So Xatalos is scummy yo
So now DarthPunk is possibly scum and he provides a quote with a bunch of dem bolded statements to back it up. But didn't Xatalos just say that DP was looking town? That he agreed with a lot of what he had to say? This is a huuuuuge 180 right here. He just felt very comfortable with DP being town. Now he feels uneasy.
Dat 180 on DP. Explain.
He makes a case on Xalatos for making a 180 on DP and calls him scummy for it. However when DP does so many 180s on Hapa hes trying to pull off a 900. CC doesn't give it a second thought although DP is doing the samething as Xalatos CC ignores it. CC has played like he has more knowledge on other townies. He would of known if DP and Hapa were town or not so he played accordingly. Also his lack of anything in his filter is really disconcerting. He has said useless 1 liners. And made a case of 180s that were exactly what DP was doing.
##Unvote
##Vote Mr.CheeseCake
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Oh and Wtf Rise post some shit
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On January 06 2013 03:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 03:32 jaybrundage wrote:On January 05 2013 15:37 Hapahauli wrote:
So regarding Jay's stuff on DP... it doesn't look very good. It looks a lot like he's trying to shovel shit on DP.
After Hero Mini, my view on Jay is that he's lynch-bait, so I'm rather hesitant about lynching him. Right now, I'm unsure how likely his behavior is coming from a "town-Jay." His play on it's face is scummy, but I really need to hear more from him.
@ Jay
What do you make of my newly disclosed town-read on DP? Agree or disagree?
Secondly, your quote accusing DP of assuming I was town was very clearly mis-interpreting his actions (in which he very clearly qualified as only IF I was town). It doesn't look very good. Explain yourself. First off you said you have done this before how many times have you done this tunneling on DP and out of the times you have done it how many times have you been wrong. If you play with DP alot and you can read him consistently then I will reconsider my position. The reason I find him scummy as been said before. Is his flip flopping on Hapa from hes obv completly with out a doubt scum to i have no fucking idea. It seemed to me like scum backing off of a mislynch they were pushing gone wrong. I personally put alot less faith in reading people's reactions to when they are about to be or going to be lynched. The quote was me being frustrated with DP's flip flopping he has gone from scum to town to scum now giving someone townie cred for the possibility of one of his scum reads being town. So yes he did change his opinion on hapa again. I didnt say anything wrong. Also I dont like CC hes doing absolutely nothing this game. He has made some worthless comments about concentrating on finding scum. He was mentioning the DP-Hapa conversations early one with out giving his opinion on him hasn't commentated much on it when DP was doing some scummy stuff. On January 05 2013 11:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
So Xatalos is scummy yo
So now DarthPunk is possibly scum and he provides a quote with a bunch of dem bolded statements to back it up. But didn't Xatalos just say that DP was looking town? That he agreed with a lot of what he had to say? This is a huuuuuge 180 right here. He just felt very comfortable with DP being town. Now he feels uneasy.
Dat 180 on DP. Explain. He makes a case on Xalatos for making a 180 on DP and calls him scummy for it. However when DP does so many 180s on Hapa hes trying to pull off a 900. CC doesn't give it a second thought although DP is doing the samething as Xalatos CC ignores it. CC has played like he has more knowledge on other townies. He would of known if DP and Hapa were town or not so he played accordingly. Also his lack of anything in his filter is really disconcerting. He has said useless 1 liners. And made a case of 180s that were exactly what DP was doing. ##Unvote
##Vote Mr.CheeseCake I've done absolutely nothing? Watch your tongue, scumster, you've done nothing as well. Your vote is pretty lulzy considering I called you out on your attempted cheap shot at DP. Also, anything DP-Hapa related is completely independent of Xalatos. DP's 180s aren't the same as his by any means.
Thats not the reason I wrote a case on you. I didnt even commentate it in my case as its irrelevant as why you are scummy. You have wrote a crap load of one liners and things that should be obvious. You seem to me lacking presence in this thread. You are calling me scummy. But you fail to follow thru with your read. Just as you have done with ShaioPi and Mr.Zentor.
You make glib comments with no substance so you seem to be contributing.
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On January 06 2013 07:49 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay
What are your feelings on ShaioPi now? I can't figure out at all why you unvoted him, especially since Shaio hasn't even replied to you.
Secondly, you've been gunning after DP for a while now, and have basically been calling out his "scumslips." Yet it's really strange that you've never had your vote on him.
Reread the thread he responded to me I then asked him another set of questions, Which he also responded too as well. The tunnel is strong in this one T_T
And no I haven't been gunning after DP that was you btw. I thought the case on him you made wasn't decent. I also asked you question regarding you and DP and your past games. Plz answer it.
Comon Hapa Read the thread Brah.
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I thought the case on him you made was* decent.
EBWODP
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On January 06 2013 08:37 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 08:36 jaybrundage wrote:
I thought the case on him you made was* decent.
EBWODP You have no idea how fast I was about to red text that lololol
Jesus CC
That's a cheat shot bra
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On January 06 2013 08:42 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 08:35 jaybrundage wrote:On January 06 2013 07:49 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay
What are your feelings on ShaioPi now? I can't figure out at all why you unvoted him, especially since Shaio hasn't even replied to you.
Secondly, you've been gunning after DP for a while now, and have basically been calling out his "scumslips." Yet it's really strange that you've never had your vote on him. Reread the thread he responded to me I then asked him another set of questions, Which he also responded too as well. The tunnel is strong in this one T_T Oh yes you did ask him some questions, however I'm still not sure what your current suspicions on Shaio are. You voted him early, and after asking him a couple of questions, I haven't heard you talk about Shaio since. Show nested quote +And no I haven't been gunning after DP that was you btw. I thought the case on him you made wasn't decent. I also asked you question regarding you and DP and your past games. Plz answer it. DP and I have played in a couple of games. From my memory... TL Mafia LVII (DP = scum, Hapa = town) Rockband Mini Mafia (Both town) Mario Mini Mafia (DP = town, Hapa = scum) Witchcraft Mini Mafia (DP = town, Hapa = town)
This is what I asked you
First off you said you have done this before how many times have you done this tunneling on DP and out of the times you have done it how many times have you been wrong. If you play with DP alot and you can read him consistently then I will reconsider my position.
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I plan to lynch my biggest scum read. And at the moment its CC.
I think that ShaoiPi could still be scum. But atm I believe i have a better read on CC. His lack of substance in his posts. And his continual lack of conviction, makes it seem to me that he is a scum trying to look like he is contributing with out really doing so.
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Hapa
Plz reread my case on him. It seems you missed some stuff before
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On January 06 2013 09:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 09:10 Hapahauli wrote:Mr.CC, why the crap are you voting MrZ, when you posted this barely an hour ago: You kidding? He has been a floundering neutral playing PoS this game so far and literally hasn't done anything but teeter on the fence of null on DP. Xatalos scum. Jay scummy as fk. Yamato is pretty meh considering he's Yamato. That vote was just out there but, you know, it's him and i can't exactly blow up on him over his work schedule because mines pretty fucked up too. CC also pretty scummy. Pressure voting is fun. Nobody is getting lynched right now anyway. Just a pressure vote so he does stuff.
You dont follow a pressure vote with stating that it's a pressure vote, because then there is no fucking pressure. Look at the results
On January 06 2013 09:44 MrZentor wrote:
I feel pressured.
CC would rather do nothing with his vote and never write a case, because as scum he would rather not really stand out. The only case he actually did write on Xaltos he backs down from. Then instead of writing a new case on someone he insteads decides to throw his vote on Zentor for pressure instead of making a case on the two people he calls scum me and Xaltos.
On January 06 2013 09:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 09:34 Hapahauli wrote:
Btw CC, you mind building a case on Xatalos? He may be indecisive, but I don't see how it's scummy. Tbh I think everyone was overstating my read on Xatalos. My original "case" was just a read post with vote pressure and it kind of got blown out of proportion both by myself and others. Allow me to rationalize why his indecision struck me so: Oats as scum in XXXII. I caught him flip flopping his read on Yamato so hard and lynch him for it. Xatalos did the same thing by contradicting himself within the frame of ~20mins with only 1 post from you inbetween. I'm starting to realize the two situations are different (as scum are more refined in these non-newbie games). But my concern stands that he's only really done that the entire game so far; saying he could be scum because this, but it could also be town. My experience with such play has been that it is scum. Tell me: Is it different?
This entire game he has been poking at people with accusations that there scum with no backing
Here are some instances from his filter.
On January 05 2013 14:51 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Anyone read Mr.Z's comment about "I'm easy to read because I do stuff scum never would do!" To be scummy as fk?
On January 06 2013 08:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
snip* Xatalos scum. Jay scummy as fk.
On January 05 2013 15:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:What's it to me? That's a scummy as shit move you pulled right thar sonny boy.
On January 06 2013 03:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 03:32 jaybrundage wrote:On January 05 2013 15:37 Hapahauli wrote:
So regarding Jay's stuff on DP... it doesn't look very good. It looks a lot like he's trying to shovel shit on DP.
After Hero Mini, my view on Jay is that he's lynch-bait, so I'm rather hesitant about lynching him. Right now, I'm unsure how likely his behavior is coming from a "town-Jay." His play on it's face is scummy, but I really need to hear more from him.
@ Jay
What do you make of my newly disclosed town-read on DP? Agree or disagree?
Secondly, your quote accusing DP of assuming I was town was very clearly mis-interpreting his actions (in which he very clearly qualified as only IF I was town). It doesn't look very good. Explain yourself. First off you said you have done this before how many times have you done this tunneling on DP and out of the times you have done it how many times have you been wrong. If you play with DP alot and you can read him consistently then I will reconsider my position. The reason I find him scummy as been said before. Is his flip flopping on Hapa from hes obv completly with out a doubt scum to i have no fucking idea. It seemed to me like scum backing off of a mislynch they were pushing gone wrong. I personally put alot less faith in reading people's reactions to when they are about to be or going to be lynched. The quote was me being frustrated with DP's flip flopping he has gone from scum to town to scum now giving someone townie cred for the possibility of one of his scum reads being town. So yes he did change his opinion on hapa again. I didnt say anything wrong. Also I dont like CC hes doing absolutely nothing this game. He has made some worthless comments about concentrating on finding scum. He was mentioning the DP-Hapa conversations early one with out giving his opinion on him hasn't commentated much on it when DP was doing some scummy stuff. On January 05 2013 11:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
So Xatalos is scummy yo
So now DarthPunk is possibly scum and he provides a quote with a bunch of dem bolded statements to back it up. But didn't Xatalos just say that DP was looking town? That he agreed with a lot of what he had to say? This is a huuuuuge 180 right here. He just felt very comfortable with DP being town. Now he feels uneasy.
Dat 180 on DP. Explain. He makes a case on Xalatos for making a 180 on DP and calls him scummy for it. However when DP does so many 180s on Hapa hes trying to pull off a 900. CC doesn't give it a second thought although DP is doing the samething as Xalatos CC ignores it. CC has played like he has more knowledge on other townies. He would of known if DP and Hapa were town or not so he played accordingly. Also his lack of anything in his filter is really disconcerting. He has said useless 1 liners. And made a case of 180s that were exactly what DP was doing. ##Unvote
##Vote Mr.CheeseCake I've done absolutely nothing? Watch your tongue, scumster, you've done nothing as well.
Even his latest post i just saw before I was gonna post this reeks of a fucking politican.
Oh thats a scum slip. Oh wait nvm hah hah ha im joking. Lemme ask someone something so i look like im contributing with out giving any reads.
On January 06 2013 10:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 10:07 Hapahauli wrote:
I'd rather not lynch MrZ either. He's a pretty classic example of a bored townie. Hapa, you know how much I want to call that a scumslip right? Hehehe. Oh lordy you get me riled up. But seriously Mr.Z -- your opinions please.
CC has refused to make any waves. He isn't writing cases. He's not putting out any good thoughts all he is doing is setting in the back row making pot shots when he can. Has a single thing of what CC wrote even impacted the thread at all?
I think that as him being mafia he has chosen not to do much because of a less chance of him being caught.
Hes to scared to lead a mislynch so instead he carefully goes on his way with out tredding on anyones toes. He does do his best to appear to be contributing. But everything he does or says is unsubstantial.
Thoughts?
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On January 06 2013 10:12 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 10:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 06 2013 10:07 Hapahauli wrote:
I'd rather not lynch MrZ either. He's a pretty classic example of a bored townie. Hapa, you know how much I want to call that a scumslip right? Hehehe. Oh lordy you get me riled up. But seriously Mr.Z -- your opinions please. Well do you agree with me or disagree? And take your vote off him if you're unwilling to lynch him. Your pressure is better directed at your actual scumreads right now (Jay/Xatalos) than someone who clearly doesn't give a shit about your vote.
Do you see his lack of conviction yet?
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On January 06 2013 10:15 yamato77 wrote:
I'm tired of this Hapa tunnel shit.
Either vote me or not. I've been up front about my play this game and yet you continue to act suspicious of me.
You have yet to vote me. It seems to me you're sitting on the idea of voting me just to look like you have scum reads.
Fuck that.
##Vote: Hapahauli
You stated you were fairly certain Hapa was town i understand your frustrated with him calling you scum and not making a substantial case but then ask for a fucking case. I want to know your scum reads what are they.
Also Mr.Z who do you wanna lynch today
And Rise help town plz stop lurking
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On January 06 2013 10:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Jay tunneling me, haha.
Hey look a post with out substance lollll
How about you write a case on someone you wanna lynch plz
I find it ironic that you think im tunneling you, as I have called DP scummy and said I would vote him at the time.
And I have made a case on ShaioPi.
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ugh im frustrated non else things that CC is scummy. DP thoughts on my two cc cases?
And hapa why are you convinced CC is townie he hasn't wrote a single case on his reads.
It would also suck if Rise got replaced. I just want him to come back tho. ShaioPi lets see ya
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On January 06 2013 11:04 Hapahauli wrote:
To map out my thoughts a bit:
People that are useless:
Yamato, RiseAgain, ShaioPi
People I wouldn't lynch above the useless d00ds:
Xatalos
People that are likely town, but I'm just infinitely paranoid about:
DarthPunk
People that are likely town:
MrZ, MrCC, Jay
I feel like two scum have to come from the useless category (possibly including Xatalos). Pretty much everyone else has given me some reason to think they're town except for three players.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLll
Feel like a just ran a marathon.
Hapa this is like the first time someone has called me prolly town. In any game I have ever played.
And not like a wtf hes so terrible at this game and scummy he has to be town.
Ah sweet sweet success  Improvement OP
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Btw zentor who do you want to lynch. Plz anyone just give a name at least if you cant give a case.
My idea is that we enact a new policy lynch called. Lynch Useless Mutha Fuckas called LUMF :D Ahem also wouldn't mind LUMFing CC
That or we can just lynch a lurker zzz
How would you guys feel about lynching a lurker then?
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On January 06 2013 11:52 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 11:29 jaybrundage wrote:
Btw zentor who do you want to lynch. Plz anyone just give a name at least if you cant give a case.
My idea is that we enact a new policy lynch called. Lynch Useless Mutha Fuckas called LUMF :D Ahem also wouldn't mind LUMFing CC
That or we can just lynch a lurker zzz
How would you guys feel about lynching a lurker then? We have four confirmed townies so far. MrZentor, Hapa, DP, and Jay So I'd be fine with killing any of the others really. I just want to get to the second day already.
Your wrong no one is a confirmed town. Don't start throwing the term around either. Thats honeslty pretty damn scummy.
Plz who do you wanna lynch today not careing who gets lynch is also scummy
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On January 06 2013 15:56 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 15:48 yamato77 wrote:
Also, hello Z-Boson.
I see you have a town read on MrZ, care to explain why? I don't think he's town and honestly he's been favoring the scummier path of action this game what with his impatience and such. Finally, a living soul around these part! Hi there ^^ I agree that Mr.Z has very few good looking posts, I've read somewhere that his meta isn't one to be taken too seriously. He has also been open with his thoughts, if you look at my spreadsheet. He's not a particular strong town read, but I don't want to lynch into him today. What I don't understand is that you are finding him to be scum for the very same actions that you yourself took! You took a vote at CC. You took a vote at hapa. I find it hypocritical for you to use that sole fact for judging someone scum. Why is Mr.Z scum for placing his vote non-seriously if thats the same thing you are doing?
Hey Z-Boson Wanna kill CC with me :3
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On January 06 2013 17:11 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 17:02 Hapahauli wrote:
What's most concerning about you right now Yamato is the relatively little analysis in your filter. I would better accept a play-style change if the scumhunting came with it. It hasn't yet, and I don't know if that's due to RL stuff or more sinister motives.
Like really, I'm most interested in seeing you scum-hunt and building cases. Every time I'm on I don't really get to interact with anyone but you so hopefully at some point this changes. From here on out I'll be able to devote more time to this game so it will get better.
So whos your biggest scum read atm?
Do you plan to write a case today?
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On January 06 2013 17:15 ShiaoPi wrote:
Okay finally got some time to give out some thoughts.
First off welcome Z-Boson, good to have a active replacement!
Moving on to some housekeeping:
DP's reactions since I was gone seem to me pretty townie, by extension Hapa seems town as well with the entire thoughtprocess behind tunneling being revealed. So I am retracting my scum-leaning read that I had on DP earlier.
I am interested currently in these people:
yamato
Xatalos
MrZ
yamato:
There are many things which would probably be me reiterating stuff that was mentioned (discrepancy in behaviour as hapa said). Not being really present, throwing votes around with little reasoning. But that can be explained by his lack of time due to RL business. could really use more analysis and reasoning from him.
Xatalos:
I said earlier that Xatalos is a lynchbait. That is because he is hesitating a lot, laying out a lot of his thoughts in the thread and therefore opening himself up for harsh critique if he changes his mind and posts it. His lack of any stance is alarming though. While it is somewhat just his playstyle (IIRC) I still dislike it a lot, I mean day 1 has been going for quite a long time now already, while we did not get more information through lynching there is still a lot of content to search through and find something.
MrZ:
He is useless, which is stupidly just his meta with the lightheartedness he has shown. I don't like useless people but cannot condemn him based on this.
Actually I started this post with wanting to lynch into Xata/yamato preferrably yamato but now that I am writing those reads feel just unsatisfying...There is nothing really much that distinguishes one option from the other. I am reluctant to lynch yamato since he seems legitimately busy, also relcutant to lynch Xata for just playing as he does (same goes for MrZ).
Somehow this day 1 has not been really productive >_>
So start scum hunting :O
Whats your opinion of The Replacement.
Also plz read my Cases on CC and comment on them.
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