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On January 05 2013 08:23 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Xatalos
Well keep in mind that the only reason that DP is active is because I've been tunneling him rather adamantly.
As for MrZ, well we can agree to disagree on him. If you do find him suspicious, I do encourage you to tunnel him and get something out of him.
This is bullshit by the way. I started going after hapa and then he omgus'd me straight up. It is not like hapa called me scum and I started scumhunting. The opposite actually I called hapa scum and he roared into the thread and started flaming and OMGUSING me.
On January 05 2013 08:56 Hapahauli wrote:
Saying "lurking suckzzz" is non-alignment indicative alone, but when you don't follow up on it at all, it's scummy. Especially when you chose to go after the guy with 40% of the Day 1 posts instead of the lurkers. What has he done to encourage lurkers to post? Nothing!
Everyone said lurking sucks. and not everyone has gone after lurkers. In fact the only difference between me and those others are that I think you are scum and they do not. You are now trying to find justification for your flames and omgus but are not following through on that with others either.
Others have said lurking sucks and not pursued lurkers. Does that make them scum also? You in fact said the same thing about lurkers and are now tunneling the most active person aside from yourself, and have not touched on the lurkers.
I am pursuing my number one scum read. that is not scummy. I have before as town said Lynch all lurkers and then ignored them and pursued my number one scum read vigorously. MANY MANY MANY townies decry lurkers and then ignore them in pursuit of their biggest scum read. That is perfectly normal behavior for town. is CERTAINLY not alignment indicative nor enough grounds for a lynch as you well know.
The fact of the matter is you are just grasping at anything to justify your OMGUS of me and to flame me with.
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On January 05 2013 14:02 ShiaoPi wrote:
@DP:
Why do you cal Hapa scum if you were not sure on him? There were plenty of examples?
If you think someone is probably scum but are not positive, do you go in with the mindset DP could be scum or DP is scum and then go from there?
The fact is, if you want people to take you seriously you do not say ummm DP could be scum but I am not sure but these things here and here and here are all scummy. But maybe I am wrong.
That would not succeed in placing pressure on that person or even be taken seriously at all. If you are pressuring someone you want to call them scum. you are trying to make them uncomfortable and gauge their reactions.
I was scared of voting hapa, being wrong and being responsible for a sudden bandwagon and lynch of a strong townie. I am more than happy to take as much time as I need to learn the facts and be fucking certain of my vote before it is cast. There is no deadline I have no need to rush these things.
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On January 05 2013 14:06 Hapahauli wrote:You seem to be bursting at the seams DP. You've been balls out convinced that I'm scum. You've explicitly called me scum over and over throughout the thread. And now... you're not convinced that I'm scum? And not only that... you want to go after Xalatos. Mmmmmhm. Show nested quote +Moving on Xatalos is scummy as fuck. First there is his list post.
Then he defends me and calls me townie. Hapa says a few things and he has the complete opposite position. He sheeps hapa and starts calling me his number 1 scum read. That is so off. I probably want to lynch Xatalos more than I want to lynch hapa today. Oh wait, then derp I'm back to being your #1 scumread: Show nested quote +I am pursuing my number one scum read. that is not scummy. I have before as town said Lynch all lurkers and then ignored them and pursued my number one scum read vigorously. MANY MANY MANY townies decry lurkers and then ignore them in pursuit of their biggest scum read. That is perfectly normal behavior for town. is CERTAINLY not alignment indicative nor enough grounds for a lynch as you well know.
The fact of the matter is you are just grasping at anything to justify your OMGUS of me and to flame me with.
I'll get to some more specifics in that reply of yours, but I just had to post this. Also DP, please outline your "case" on me, so I can rip it apart for how incoherent it is. Just give me a bullet list.
You think that being unsure and inconsistent is a scum tell? You are out of your mind. I am unsure because I am unsure. If I was scum I could fucking fake certainty twist everything you say into something scummy and then tunnel you to death all the while sounding like the most confident person in the world. I have done it before. it is easy. It is exactly what you are doing with me.
With you I am trying to figure shit out still. And I wouldn't like to mislynch you if I happen to be wrong. So I am taking my sweet time. you WERE my number one scum read during the time I was arguing with you. Then I saw xatalos acting all scummy and would probably prefer to lynch him. It is fairly obvious what I was saying no need to twist it into something else entirely.
I know it aids your cause but do try to stop being dense sweetie.
I have no interest in repeating myself for you hapa. I will respond to others but I refuse to get into a flame war with you. My position can be found easily within my filter.
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On January 05 2013 14:13 ShiaoPi wrote:
@DP: Well I do in fact go with XX could be scum unless I feel sure then I am willing to commit and tunnel to oblivion. But I think you know that already. I would have thought you to be more of the tunnelfest-type as soon as you pick up a trail, but that might be me remembering wrong. Well I would like to see your case on hapa then as soon as you can post it...
I suggest you read my filter. Everything on hapa is contained within those posts.
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Well you linked to something that wasn't page one. So grats. And you are using my meta wrong, again. Seriously you guys need to stop using meta when you clearly can't read me accurately with it.
The key point is not pushing another townie that is weaker. The key point of my meta is DROPPING the STRONGER case for a WEAKER case that is on a weaker player. The fact is I am clearly not dropping the stronger case on you. I am still quite determined to go after you. That does not mean I want to ignore everything else in the thread.
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On January 05 2013 14:22 ShiaoPi wrote:
I read your filter DP, not convincing...
If you are really certain on Hapa then I would like you to condense it into a post and try convincing us. While it is true that you have time since there is no deadline, I would rather see it sooner or later, also taking into account the recent interactions.
Otherwise if you would decide to drop Hapa then tell us why and why Xatalos is the scummier person
what was not convincing about it exactly? And I really don't have the time to condense it down though I probably should. I will do so when I get home from my mothers later tonight.
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hmmm. Last game I got into it with hapa he gave me a town read. This game he is tunneling me to the death it seems. I am town both games. Hapa is the altered variable.
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ugh I am not scum. So there is that.
Case on hapa very simply
Pushes weak as shit wagons for weak as shit reasons when he should know better. Look at original post.
When Questioned he states that it was for the purposes of promoting activity and discussion. Which is fine. But then I ask why not push lurkers as they are hurting the game more than yamato or Rise were at that point as both had posted pretty recently.
Tries to say that not pushing lurkers makes me scum which is fucking absurd.
Hapa proceeds to go apeshit and omgus me and tunnel me which is not the reaction I would expect from a town hapa who almost always gives me a town read in similar circumstances.
He then misinterprets and misrepresents things that I say in order to paint me as scummy and discredit my view of his scummines to the point in which it seems as if it is deliberate and pushing an agenda rather than scumhunting and searching genuinely for my alignment.
He flames and omgus' away regardless of what I say. Which is unlike any town hapa ever. He has never not called me town correctly aside from his scum game in mario.
A lot of it is gut feeling and a complete wtf?!?! reaction to hapa going apeshit at the lightest and IMO justified pressure originally.
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how about everyone who is down for voting for me votes for me? Don't hammer but then I know where I stand at least.
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On January 05 2013 14:40 ShiaoPi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 14:38 DarthPunk wrote:
ugh I am not scum. So there is that.
Case on hapa very simply
Pushes weak as shit wagons for weak as shit reasons when he should know better. Look at original post.
When Questioned he states that it was for the purposes of promoting activity and discussion. Which is fine. But then I ask why not push lurkers as they are hurting the game more than yamato or Rise were at that point as both had posted pretty recently.
Tries to say that not pushing lurkers makes me scum which is fucking absurd.
Hapa proceeds to go apeshit and omgus me and tunnel me which is not the reaction I would expect from a town hapa who almost always gives me a town read in similar circumstances.
He then misinterprets and misrepresents things that I say in order to paint me as scummy and discredit my view of his scummines to the point in which it seems as if it is deliberate and pushing an agenda rather than scumhunting and searching genuinely for my alignment.
He flames and omgus' away regardless of what I say. Which is unlike any town hapa ever. He has never not called me town correctly aside from his scum game in mario.
A lot of it is gut feeling and a complete wtf?!?! reaction to hapa going apeshit at the lightest and IMO justified pressure originally.
Okay so basically it is more of a meta-read on Hapa you have? Why be so inconsistent then? Another question, Hapa is not in this game anymore, who do you want to lynch?
It was a gut feeling. I was trying to fucking push and gauge his reaction. His reaction was to go fucking crazy with flames and OMGUS. Then IM like. Oh that is weird. Flame back a bit and here we are. Everyone fucking sheeping hapa with no actual input or case and me being on the table for a day one mislynch for the fourth game in a row rofl.
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but I am not going to be mislynched. And If I am I take a scummer with me so that would be cool also.
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On January 05 2013 14:42 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 14:39 DarthPunk wrote:
how about everyone who is down for voting for me votes for me? Don't hammer but then I know where I stand at least. So far phantom votes on you Me Hapa ShiaoPi And possible Xantols
and it takes 5 to hammer. ew. I can't believe I am this bad as town day one always.
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oh and If I had to lynch now and hapa was dead. hmmm. dunno I would need to read more filters. Actually I would wait to vote until something solid comes up.
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Hapa. If you could day vig me right now. Would you do it?
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On January 05 2013 14:46 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 14:45 DarthPunk wrote:
oh and If I had to lynch now and hapa was dead. hmmm. dunno I would need to read more filters. Actually I would wait to vote until something solid comes up. Remember when you called Xatalos scummy as shit? Yeah I guess you forgot about that huh?
Yeah. He is. But I am not certain. Holy fuck dude I change my mind and am unsure as a townie with no info on day one. That doesn't sound plausible at all now does it?
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Oh and another reason I am not voting is because I would rather it be me that hammers than some lurker.
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On January 05 2013 14:49 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 14:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Hapa. If you could day vig me right now. Would you do it? Honestly no. The tunneling process is how I vindicate my read on someone. I'm leaning very heavily scum on you, but I'm not 100% convinced. The percentage is ticking up rather quickly though.
lovely. :/
well don't try and hammer me while I am gone that's all I can ask. I can tell you right now though. If you are town. I am town, I am not being mislynched and we should be friends.
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Oh and for the record. I think cheesecake is probably Town for not jumping on either hapa or myself. I am sure scum would love to get me or hapa if he is town for free.
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On January 05 2013 14:52 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 14:48 DarthPunk wrote:On January 05 2013 14:46 Hapahauli wrote:On January 05 2013 14:45 DarthPunk wrote:
oh and If I had to lynch now and hapa was dead. hmmm. dunno I would need to read more filters. Actually I would wait to vote until something solid comes up. Remember when you called Xatalos scummy as shit? Yeah I guess you forgot about that huh? Yeah. He is. But I am not certain. Holy fuck dude I change my mind and am unsure as a townie with no info on day one. That doesn't sound plausible at all now does it? Yeah, but how the hell did you change your mind so quickly? You just called Xatalos "scummy as shit" barely an hour ago. Then all of a sudden you're unsure again?
Holy fuck. What do you not understand about this. I am town. I have no additional info. I have to figure shit out. The way I figure shit out is to have ideas and then alter these ideas with changing info or more thought applied to the problem.
Whilst I was flaming with you I was thinking about Xatalos. Now the thing about Xatalos is that he is a pretty bad townie. He likes to sheep and he changes his mind.
Changing your mind is a pretty bad thing to do as scum because people such as yourself for some reason view it as scummy, and as scum you don't need to change your mind. You can defend someone you know will flip town and be fully justified in doing that later when he flips. You can also tunnel people as long as they aren't your buddies, and even then you can do so.
So changing his mind/sheeping was originally scummy but not with some further thought applied.
His list post irks me as all lists post do in general HOWEVER re reading it actually contained decent content and seemed to fit someone trying to figure shit out. Not scummy.
So. He is back to null after reevaluation and I need to figure some other shit out.
Savvy?
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On January 05 2013 14:58 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2013 14:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Oh and for the record. I think cheesecake is probably Town for not jumping on either hapa or myself. I am sure scum would love to get me or hapa if he is town for free. now your assuming hapa is town again....
Yep. Fuck you.
##Vote: jaybrundage
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