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On January 09 2013 11:54 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 11:50 Hapahauli wrote:On January 09 2013 11:47 yamato77 wrote:On January 09 2013 11:44 Hapahauli wrote:On January 09 2013 11:42 yamato77 wrote:On January 09 2013 11:33 Hapahauli wrote:On January 09 2013 11:30 yamato77 wrote:On January 09 2013 11:25 Hapahauli wrote:On January 09 2013 11:23 yamato77 wrote:On January 09 2013 11:20 Hapahauli wrote:
Welp. If you're going to troll from here on out, I'm going to lynch you.
What will it be? What is it you think I should be doing, repeating myself over and over about why I want to lynch Zentor like he's doing with me? I'm gauging Dandel at the moment because the person he replaced could definitely have been the other scum. Otherwise, I highly doubt you, DP, or Zbo are scum. Jay probably isn't either, from what I've been reading of his filter. Any analysis would help. You screaming MrZ is useless/scum won't get you anywhere. Read filters, post cases, etc. Like you have a town read on Jay all of a sudden. Why? What's the reasoning? Why would you put Z-Bo in the same category as two confirmed townies? What is in Zentor's filter besides "lynch people, I'm confirmed town, you're confirmed town, lynch this guy"? It's a pretty accurate assessment IMO. Do you really want me to pick out all the posts where he does exactly this? Reasoning on Jay. Go. Hell you're trying to "gauge Dandel Ion" right now, but you haven't asked him a single question. How do you guage a guy who just replaced in without talking to him? I'm reading what you're asking him. There's not much for me to add to what you want him to do, heh. There's not a single thing you want to ask Dandel, who is apparently the only person you can see flipping scum other than MrZ? No, I said you're already asking him the questions I want answers to. Do you have free time tomorrow? Because I want you to take over for me in that regard. In the afternoon I have some. I'll make sure he's a contributing town member, Hapa.
Ya I wish you grand success.
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Aite, I'm gonna sleep.
Gonna do like, the thinking and reading stuff tomorrow.
Toodles.
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Oh DP is a non-counterclaimed blue, huh.
There goes that amazing sick scumread, I guess.
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Actually I changed my mind, I don't wanna lynch yamato today.
He might still be scum, but it's gotten pretty unlikely imo.
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DP's reasoning for his townread is still shit though.
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DP is so scummy, I still want to think he's scum even when he's confirmed town.
u should fix that brah
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Yeah no, yamato is prob town.
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I'm pretty sure the 2 scum are between Zentor, Zbo, and jay.
Now to try and figure out which.....
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On January 10 2013 03:17 jaybrundage wrote:
What made you change your read on ShiaoPi? Besides the obv ofc.
I read my role PM. Duh.
I don't envy y'all, the role PM was by and far the easiest way to find out.
Also you proclaimed Yamato was scum earlier what changed.
I am reading the thread.
Like, actually reading it.
Barring a major scumslip by him in the last ~5 pages before my grand entrance I still have to do (then filters), I am willing to assume him town, and not willing to lynch him.
Let me paint you a picture:
On January 07 2013 08:14 Blazinghand wrote:Final Vote Count Xatalos (5): Mr.Cheesecake, ShiaoPi, Z-Boson, Mr. Cheesecake, MrZentor, Yamato77Mr. Cheesecake (2): Yamato77,jaybrundage, Xatalosyamato77 (0): Xatalos, MrZentorHapahauli (0): Yamato77, MrZentorZ-Boson (0): ShiaoPi, DarthPunkjaybrundage (0): DarthPunkDarthPunk (0): HapahauliMrZentor (0): Mr. CheesecakeShiaoPi (0): jaybrundage, Xatalos- Not Voting (2): Hapahauli, DarthPunk5 votes are required to lynch.No posting until night post.
How curious.
Judging by experience, scum rarely pile all their members onto a single mislynch.
Which means that using only this voting pattern, jay is the most likely of the three to flip red, then a toss-up between Zentor and Zbo.
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On January 10 2013 03:52 Hapahauli wrote:@ DandelWon't lie, I really want to lynch you right now. Mainly for this: Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 10:40 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'd totally lynch yamato.
Other scum most likely Zbo. Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 10:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
btw I would have lynched Shiao after yamato too, but can we like, not do that now?
Would be nice. What is even the point of these comments? The only purpose for stuff like this is to agree with people, and not to serve any town objectives. You just replaced in, and you even admitted to not being fully caught up: Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 10:50 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 09 2013 10:46 Hapahauli wrote:On January 09 2013 10:44 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 09 2013 10:43 Hapahauli wrote:
What, are you town? Cause I think your PM says the opposite >> I am. Tho i understand you thinking otherwise. How caught-up are you into the game? You mentioned notes, but you basically called the two confirmed townies + the most obv-town player in the thread town so far. That's... not much. I did follow pretty closely up to... uhm night 1? or so then I kinda stopped. still read it casually thoI'm a bit tipsy atm, and not fully caught up, so I don't wanna vote pplz yet. Feel free to hammer him in the meantime if your so eager. I'm just gonna post the notes i did so far straight. I did em for me tho, so if ya dont understand something, jsut ask Basically, you're down for lynching Yamato (despite rarely mentioning Yamato in your "notes") despite only being caught up to page 17. Then all of a sudden when you "read" the game:
Yeah. That is an accurate recap of what happened.
See, I would've lynched yamato for his day 1 play.
When I was just reading this thread on the side, I still thought yam was being scummy for getting so irrationally angry and how he went about that anger.
Now I read more than that closely, it's likely to be a town anger. Also yam is just an irrationally angry dude, not a scumtell for him.
Kinda like Eywa, but without the modkills.
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And I said I would lynch yamato, but did I do something about it?
nah, cause I know that's stupid when you're not caught up.
Did it accomplish nothing?
That may be your opinion, but I'd disagree.
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On January 10 2013 04:19 Hapahauli wrote:
But that's such a horrendously irresponsible comment to make when you've just replaced in.
"Yes I'd be down for lynching a guy based on the first 33% of the game." WTF is the point of saying that?
what is the point in pointing this out?
If it was pointless, you wouldn't say it was scummy. You'd say it was pointless.
But you're not doing that.
So I think you understand that there is a merit to it.
Unfortunately for me, you assume a mafia merit, but whatevs. The point is, you don't even think yourself that they are pointless, as I pointed out.
So your question is redundant.
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On January 10 2013 04:21 Hapahauli wrote:
And so what if you didn't follow up on it with your vote? Fact is, you just fanned the flames in a situation where yamato was under a lot of heat.
Maybe I wanted to see if he was Icarus, and if his fake wings would burn under the glaring sun, but then it turned out he's a real bird with real wings.
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On January 10 2013 04:53 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 04:44 Hapahauli wrote:On January 10 2013 04:37 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 10 2013 04:33 Hapahauli wrote:On January 10 2013 04:25 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 10 2013 03:41 jaybrundage wrote:On January 10 2013 03:37 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 09 2013 08:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Ok so based on what we got we have two candidates for lynch today.
Shiaopi and Yamato
Shaiopi has been lurking alot still.
Yamato was going after CC but after the recent claim. Has decided to go after Zentor. A person that Im slowly beginning to appreciate. :D
Going after weak/lurky/trolly townies is a pretty big scum tell. As they aren't scum but are usually lurky and scummy so easy to mislynch. Its no small reason that I have been pushed by many a scum.
I have a third candidate in mind if one of yamato or shaiopi dont flip red.
Do we have a time/date we want to consolidate on?
Why are you ignoring any discussion on him, and just state that you are beginning to "appreciate" him? What is there to appreciate? I think i get his play style more. And I would go so far as to say that i think he is a townie. Part of it is his town read on me. And part of it is his reads in general. Also this devil may care attitude while risky seems to me like a townie that was florishing under Hapa's town read. I don't think that someone scummy who gets a town read would be quite so bold. This makes zero sense. Scum are much more likely to give townreads. It is also troubling on how convinced he seems to be. I need some confirmation from you hapa, but in witchcraft did he also insistently just keep saying "I know he is town, I know he is scum, lynch him"? Because that sums up a large portion of what Mr.Z has been doing lately. Also, his attitude is anti-town, he doesn't promote discussion with it and doesn't add anything. Surely you can read through his Witchcraft game and find this out for yourself no? Or I can save time by asking a quasi-confirmed townie who's played with him on something that's pretty much a yes or no question >.< I'll add that to my todo list Sorry, but I need to see you do analysis. It also would take all of 10 minutes. Hapa do you want to consolidate on Dandel? I would prefer you spear headed this lynch instead of letting scum do it.
Why does this read like
Hapa please push Dandel so that I can bandwagon on him comfortably without giving any good reasons and without getting suspected for it.
to me?
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On January 10 2013 04:56 Z-BosoN wrote:Dandel's entrance is very unsatisfactory, imo. His entire analysis ends with the conclusion that me and yamato are scum, and that we have a pretty easy game: Show nested quote +yamato or Rise should be day1 lynch candidates.
Looks like a pretty easy game, which means I prolly missed something. And in his entrance his opinions don't change all that much: Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 11:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Most likely is yamato + Zbo imo.
yamato + zentor possible, but I admit I have no clue how to read that guy. For some reason, he quickly changes his read on yamato: Show nested quote +On January 09 2013 22:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
Actually I changed my mind, I don't wanna lynch yamato today.
He might still be scum, but it's gotten pretty unlikely imo. I can't fathom what is it that yamato said in this 11-hour period that so quickly changed his mind. Which, was incidentally after this post from hapa: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391112¤tpage=57#1138In which he gave yama a slight town read DP has put forth his reasoning as to why he thinks yamato is town, and dandel heavily disagreed with it, but didn't include any reasoning of his own. I am wondering right now what changed Dandel's mind so quickly in 11 hours as to supplant a read that came with more than a day's worth of analysis.
lol learn reading.
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On January 10 2013 05:12 Z-BosoN wrote:@DandelIf you mean this post: Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 04:09 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 10 2013 03:52 Hapahauli wrote:@ DandelWon't lie, I really want to lynch you right now. Mainly for this: On January 09 2013 10:40 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'd totally lynch yamato.
Other scum most likely Zbo. On January 09 2013 10:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
btw I would have lynched Shiao after yamato too, but can we like, not do that now?
Would be nice. What is even the point of these comments? The only purpose for stuff like this is to agree with people, and not to serve any town objectives. You just replaced in, and you even admitted to not being fully caught up: On January 09 2013 10:50 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 09 2013 10:46 Hapahauli wrote:On January 09 2013 10:44 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 09 2013 10:43 Hapahauli wrote:
What, are you town? Cause I think your PM says the opposite >> I am. Tho i understand you thinking otherwise. How caught-up are you into the game? You mentioned notes, but you basically called the two confirmed townies + the most obv-town player in the thread town so far. That's... not much. I did follow pretty closely up to... uhm night 1? or so then I kinda stopped. still read it casually thoI'm a bit tipsy atm, and not fully caught up, so I don't wanna vote pplz yet. Feel free to hammer him in the meantime if your so eager. I'm just gonna post the notes i did so far straight. I did em for me tho, so if ya dont understand something, jsut ask Basically, you're down for lynching Yamato (despite rarely mentioning Yamato in your "notes") despite only being caught up to page 17. Then all of a sudden when you "read" the game: On January 09 2013 23:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yeah no, yamato is prob town. Yeah. That is an accurate recap of what happened. See, I would've lynched yamato for his day 1 play. When I was just reading this thread on the side, I still thought yam was being scummy for getting so irrationally angry and how he went about that anger. Now I read more than that closely, it's likely to be a town anger. Also yam is just an irrationally angry dude, not a scumtell for him. Kinda like Eywa, but without the modkills. You add a reasoning that basically warps the same thing you used as a scumread into one that is a townread. That's awfully convenient once hapa changed his mind. Are there more reasons as to why you suddenly changed your mind, or is this it?
Ya okay, you're scum.
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On January 10 2013 05:19 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 05:17 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 10 2013 05:12 Z-BosoN wrote:@DandelIf you mean this post: On January 10 2013 04:09 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 10 2013 03:52 Hapahauli wrote:@ DandelWon't lie, I really want to lynch you right now. Mainly for this: On January 09 2013 10:40 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'd totally lynch yamato.
Other scum most likely Zbo. On January 09 2013 10:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
btw I would have lynched Shiao after yamato too, but can we like, not do that now?
Would be nice. What is even the point of these comments? The only purpose for stuff like this is to agree with people, and not to serve any town objectives. You just replaced in, and you even admitted to not being fully caught up: On January 09 2013 10:50 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 09 2013 10:46 Hapahauli wrote:On January 09 2013 10:44 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 09 2013 10:43 Hapahauli wrote:
What, are you town? Cause I think your PM says the opposite >> I am. Tho i understand you thinking otherwise. How caught-up are you into the game? You mentioned notes, but you basically called the two confirmed townies + the most obv-town player in the thread town so far. That's... not much. I did follow pretty closely up to... uhm night 1? or so then I kinda stopped. still read it casually thoI'm a bit tipsy atm, and not fully caught up, so I don't wanna vote pplz yet. Feel free to hammer him in the meantime if your so eager. I'm just gonna post the notes i did so far straight. I did em for me tho, so if ya dont understand something, jsut ask Basically, you're down for lynching Yamato (despite rarely mentioning Yamato in your "notes") despite only being caught up to page 17. Then all of a sudden when you "read" the game: On January 09 2013 23:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yeah no, yamato is prob town. Yeah. That is an accurate recap of what happened. See, I would've lynched yamato for his day 1 play. When I was just reading this thread on the side, I still thought yam was being scummy for getting so irrationally angry and how he went about that anger. Now I read more than that closely, it's likely to be a town anger. Also yam is just an irrationally angry dude, not a scumtell for him. Kinda like Eywa, but without the modkills. You add a reasoning that basically warps the same thing you used as a scumread into one that is a townread. That's awfully convenient once hapa changed his mind. Are there more reasons as to why you suddenly changed your mind, or is this it? Ya okay, you're scum. Answer me, please.
Tell you what, a while back you said you'd go through yamato's filter, but you didn't say shit about it.
Which means you were doing nothing and you were waiting to gauge if you should pile shit on yamato, or, if he wasn't looking likely, on somebody else.
I'm "pleased" to see you chose me.
Now, share with me, when you looked at yamato's filter like you said you did, what made you shut up and not say anything about it, only to start flinging shit on me?
Also, you mention how I somehow molded my read after Hapa, and since I personally know this to be incorrect, I have uncovered your own strategy.
You've seen Hapa's willingness to lynch me, so now you want a piece of it.
Just like jay does.
Jay and Zbo
jay and zbo
hmmmmmmm
looks legit.
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Too bad jay doesn't have the balls to call me scum to my face.
He has to wait for mommy Hapa to do it for him.
Come on jayjay.
I'm sure you have VEEEEEEERY good resons for lynching me.
Bring em on.
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On January 10 2013 05:35 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 05:25 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 10 2013 05:19 Z-BosoN wrote:On January 10 2013 05:17 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 10 2013 05:12 Z-BosoN wrote:@DandelIf you mean this post: On January 10 2013 04:09 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 10 2013 03:52 Hapahauli wrote:@ DandelWon't lie, I really want to lynch you right now. Mainly for this: On January 09 2013 10:40 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'd totally lynch yamato.
Other scum most likely Zbo. On January 09 2013 10:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
btw I would have lynched Shiao after yamato too, but can we like, not do that now?
Would be nice. What is even the point of these comments? The only purpose for stuff like this is to agree with people, and not to serve any town objectives. You just replaced in, and you even admitted to not being fully caught up: On January 09 2013 10:50 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 09 2013 10:46 Hapahauli wrote:On January 09 2013 10:44 Dandel Ion wrote:
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I am.
Tho i understand you thinking otherwise. How caught-up are you into the game? You mentioned notes, but you basically called the two confirmed townies + the most obv-town player in the thread town so far. That's... not much. I did follow pretty closely up to... uhm night 1? or so then I kinda stopped. still read it casually thoI'm a bit tipsy atm, and not fully caught up, so I don't wanna vote pplz yet. Feel free to hammer him in the meantime if your so eager. I'm just gonna post the notes i did so far straight. I did em for me tho, so if ya dont understand something, jsut ask Basically, you're down for lynching Yamato (despite rarely mentioning Yamato in your "notes") despite only being caught up to page 17. Then all of a sudden when you "read" the game: On January 09 2013 23:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
Yeah no, yamato is prob town. Yeah. That is an accurate recap of what happened. See, I would've lynched yamato for his day 1 play. When I was just reading this thread on the side, I still thought yam was being scummy for getting so irrationally angry and how he went about that anger. Now I read more than that closely, it's likely to be a town anger. Also yam is just an irrationally angry dude, not a scumtell for him. Kinda like Eywa, but without the modkills. You add a reasoning that basically warps the same thing you used as a scumread into one that is a townread. That's awfully convenient once hapa changed his mind. Are there more reasons as to why you suddenly changed your mind, or is this it? Ya okay, you're scum. Answer me, please. Tell you what, a while back you said you'd go through yamato's filter, but you didn't say shit about it. Which means you were doing nothing and you were waiting to gauge if you should pile shit on yamato, or, if he wasn't looking likely, on somebody else. I'm "pleased" to see you chose me. Now, share with me, when you looked at yamato's filter like you said you did, what made you shut up and not say anything about it, only to start flinging shit on me? Also, you mention how I somehow molded my read after Hapa, and since I personally know this to be incorrect, I have uncovered your own strategy. You've seen Hapa's willingness to lynch me, so now you want a piece of it. Just like jay does. Jay and Zbo jay and zbo hmmmmmmm looks legit. I'm not too interested in yamato, his play has been pretty active, and was very persistent in his reads. Newer players generally don't behave so, especially with someone like hapa pressuring them the other way. I started flinging shit at you as soon as I caught up the thread, in which I saw a fairly understandable scum read turn into a "prob town read" for.... crap. ShiaoPi became suspicious to me much before you came here, in an interaction with hapa I'm sure you've read. If there is anything unnatural or "opportunistic" about me agreeing with hapa with said discussion, let me know. Otherwise you can keep saying I'm scum without arguing or giving any reasoning and I'm sure that's gonna suit you well. Why are you dodging the question? Still trying to think on what you can say?
Yeah I have no reasons at all. I just make stuff up.
NOW:
YAMATO
TOWN OR SCUM
I'm feeling nice, so you don't even have to explain your townread either. No need to really.
But what I want you to do, and you still haven't done, is give a stance on yamato.
This is a time where stances have to be taken, and scum is the party that benefits the most from not doing that.
So take a stance.
You've said nothing about yamato, in neither direction. Even though you promised to look through his filter and stuff.
So I want you to say one of those words:
1) town
2) scum
Don't take too long, else I'll assume you'll have to go look for reasons.
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