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OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 17:53 GMT

#737

sounds good. I'm going to go out for lunch and catch up afterwards. Based on Zare's case though it seems more concrete than jampi tbh. Most of what I've pointed out on Jampi is just his lack of everything and what he has done seems to be hurtful.. but Zare makes some excellent points on what has been said/done on a regular basis. It's a tough decision, switching to Spag would be a lot of WIFOM where Jampi I feel is a safer choice to look for a lynch. I don't know... I need to look through everything again after lunch.

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 21:04 GMT

#747

I must admit I've played with the idea of Mocsta being scum all game long. When he started making those posts on how to scum hunt ect. I was extremely uncomfortable but I had the same feeling from him in XXXIII it was just this time with no Aqua to push for the lynch Mocsta made the case himself so the feeling I had was a bit worse. I've constantly wondered if I were being manipulated by Mocsta and if everybody was being fooled by his treatment to us. He is playing the type of scum game I would attempt. At the same time he is playing the town game I would have liked to if I wasn't so passive-aggressive.

I do have a few problems with your case

"Mocsta is trying to make others think for him. Asking others to do something for you is scummy."

On January 05 2013 19:27 jampidampi wrote:
@Mocsta
Do you still think Omni is scum? If you do, please pressure him more.

On January 04 2013 22:26 jampidampi wrote:
@StriX
I have yet to see an action of yours that doesn't fall into the category of arguably scum or town. That is to say every action of yours could have scum or town motives behind them. In my mind you are the scummiest player so the vote stays.

but in his case you say "Overall, he has no contributions to speak of and some of his plays are scummy."

Overall I think I would find your case more compelling if it weren't riddled with lies or hypocrisy. If what you say, and what I fear is true, and Mocsta is scum, this case has not convinced me. The only thing that might save you today from my vote is if Mocsta believes his read on Spag is strong enough to justify changing the vote. Otherwise my vote will be staying on you.

One other thing that might save you is if you can claim JK and prove that you were the one who RB'd me. (I assume it was town as mafia RB just does NOT make sense on me.)

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 21:07 GMT

#748

hm... I'm sorry I was incorrect. I just checked and you indeed never said I was suspicious. I got mixed up and made a mistake on that point.

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 21:18 GMT

#750

I think we should stay on Jampi. when everybody else comes back I'm expecting we'll most likely be discussing who we'll be voting for all the way up to the end though.

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 22:22 GMT

#756

can anybody counter claim Spag's cop claim? its important. I'm not moving my vote if nobody can. It also means we have a JK and scum has a RB. If nobody cop claims to counter Spag it means both RB and JK blocked me N1

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 22:27 GMT

#757

We have roughly an hour and a half till the lynch from the time of this post right?

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 22:45 GMT

#764

if its Jampi and TeMiL I wouldn't be surprised. Jampi wont be getting much help in that scenario. TeMiL saw that Jampi would not be lynched no matter what D1, voted him to try and separate the two of them from suspicion? It's a possibility.

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 22:51 GMT

#770

alright Mocsta, but what do we make of the cop claim? that its fake and there is no cop?

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 22:53 GMT

#771

ah um if it is Jampi and TeMiL and we lynch spag and he's telling the truth we'll be missing a cop and they'll have a RB. We'll still have JK but if TeMiL isn't scum it might be syl. I have a town read on him but he might just be playing a good game. TeMiL throws a wrench in it for us no matter what.

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 23:01 GMT

#777

I'm really uncomfortable voting for a blue role who hasn't been proven wrong. I'll change my vote when we get closer to the lynch time if I have to but if nobody claims against him it will be against my better judgement.

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 23:03 GMT

#778

well, ... shit... ... I DONT KNOW HOW TO PHRASE THIS QUESTION. lol... uh How much can we talk about advice we got from our coaches? Can we rephrase what they said and present it as they told it to us?

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 23:08 GMT

#782

I agree completely with you, and a TON of what I'm basing this on is that we have no counter-claim to his cop claim. That is the ONLY thing bothering me. I am willing to admit Syl or TeMiL could be cop but neither of them are coming forward. If you myself or Zare were cop I wouldn't be having this difficulty cause he would be proven a liar immediately. His cop claim MUST have been either true, or a massive chance that its TeMiL.

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 23:09 GMT

#784

[green]I'm just going to PM you what I'm going to say because it might be a iffy statement. If its wrong I won't get in trouble for just PMing you right?[/bold]

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 23:10 GMT

#785

EBWOP: oops... just pretend that /bold is /green

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 23:21 GMT

#791

@Mocsta I mean if we lynch spag and he's town we know Zare is town... but... if Zare is town shouldn't he trust Spag? Zare was one of the three we were suspecting... this is getting really confusing.. mission accomplished scum =/

So do we just assume its a fake claim?

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 23:23 GMT

#793

OK with Syl being here I'm willing to just go with the statistics. The chance TeMiL rolled Cop is small. Do we risk lynching our cop over a 7~% chance that he's lying?

I think we should lynch Jampi.

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 23:26 GMT

#798

EBWOP: I should say I come up with 7% (its really more like 11% IDK why I thought we started with 13 people) but we KNOW its none of us, TeMiL is the only person who could be cop left... meaning its 50-50 between the two of them. I got RB so as long as they aren't lying... Spag took a risk based on a 11% chance that none of us were the cop... that's risky as hell.

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 23:29 GMT

#801

wait you're right Mocsta. He kept saying Zare was one of the three people he suspected...

##Unvote
##Vote: Spaghetticus

That's enough to make me believe he's fake claiming. I'll keep going through to find all of it and post it for you.

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 23:34 GMT

#804

Here is the post. If he knows Zare is town its odd that he puts him on the list.

On January 08 2013 01:59 Spaghetticus wrote:
I am going to bed. My preferred candidates are Omni, Zare, and TeMiL, and I will settle for any of them. I'll try and get up in three hours so I can influence the lynch if it is not going the way I intend. I have certain changes to my plan if particular events happen.

OmniEulogy

Canada6592 Posts

January 07 2013 23:37 GMT

#809

the post I quoted was literally 2 posts before his case where he claims he knew Zare was town... Good catch Mocsta. literally 6 hours later he's completely changed what he was saying. If he's scum he knows Zare is town even without checking him. Now the only question is if he's bussing Jampi.

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