• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:47
CEST 15:47
KST 22:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202531Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder7EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced38BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings EWC 2025 - Replay Pack #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 664 users

Newbie Mini Mafia XXXIV - Page 22

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 50 Next All
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
January 05 2013 00:18 GMT
#421
Wait really?

Strix (3) - Spag, Jamp, Omni
Jamp (3) - Syl, Corazon, Strix
Omni (2) - Zare, Moc

Jampi is currently set to get lynched due to plurality.
StriX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia42 Posts
January 05 2013 00:18 GMT
#422
@Mocsta
I did read that. Call it a test in consistency.
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 05 2013 00:20 GMT
#423
Right now, I'm going with StriX. OE's case against StriX has some very good points, and I think that we should reserve judgement on OE until we see what happens with StriX.

Moc, Syl has a very excellent point. If you are not willing to follow your own advice to others, how am I supposed to take you seriously?

OE gave StriX time to defend. However, you have not. It's not very fair, so I believe I am going to examine this case post-lynch, and StriX's flip will have a huge impact on my read of OE

##Unvote
##Vote: StriX
Grubby's #1 Fan
StriX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia42 Posts
January 05 2013 00:23 GMT
#424
I'm satisfied with that outcome. As mocsta said OE's case is really a rehash. Being repetitive isn't my nature and it will become clear if you read my response to jampidampi that I clear up most of the points.
StriX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia42 Posts
January 05 2013 00:24 GMT
#425
##Unvote:jampidampi
##Vote: OmniEulogy
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
January 05 2013 00:26 GMT
#426
Mocsta's entire case against me can boil down to him not liking my thought process, and me explaining myself as I vote and search for information. It is not a lack of information or fluff about policy as he is saying.

It's almost like he didn't read my case on StriX or wants to even mention it. Why would Mocsta not bring up this case? It brings up very good arguments against StriX which he has not even tried to respond to and he criticizes me for play he made (much worse) on TeMiL. Why does he not address such an important case?

Ask yourself if Mocsta's "case" has been made attempting to hunt scum when what I have been doing all game is giving out my reads on people and trying to pressure with votes and gain town information or if its an attempt to save StriX.

Mocsta votes on TeMiL - useless vote, changes to me with NO real scum indication or facts. All of his "scum reads" are his personal opinion.

I could claim Mocsta has personally delivered very little to the conversation himself, he asks a lot of questions but answers very vaguely and does not contribute unless it has been on TeMiL or other players who have been lurking. He's been called out on it already and tried to sidestep the accusation. This is very easy for scum to do.

He has also conveniently left so he can't expand on any of his idea's further. His block of text says very little for so much writing. He claims no contribution when I have pushed more aggressively than some people feel comfortable with against Zare, and now StriX.

He claims that switching my vote from Zare to StriX is me not caring who gets lynched. This is simply not the case. Zare began to contribute more and as the day progressed he became less likely to be scum and as such my scum reads changed. I unvoted and went over filters, read through countless posts again to come to a conclusion. That is not carelessly voting as he would like you to believe based on his opinion. I say him voting for TeMiL and then switching to me is much worse than what he has accused me of. He went from a lurker who has not even defended himself to a player who is possibly on to scum and has been scum hunting and giving his input on the top scum reads all game long.

Mocsta is wrong and I strongly advise you to not confuse his reads for facts.
LiquidDota Staff
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
January 05 2013 00:28 GMT
#427
Please note that I believe StriX' most recent action is purely for survival. He perceives the stagnant state of the Jamp wagon, but sees new hope in the spontaneous Omni wagon.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
January 05 2013 00:29 GMT
#428
I should also add on, and I fking HATE to say this but I need to. If I am right about StriX and he is scum. This is EXACTLY what his scum buddy would need to do to get him off the firing line. Create massive confusion with an hour left in D1 and save his mafia buddy.
LiquidDota Staff
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-05 00:30:18
January 05 2013 00:30 GMT
#429
Votecount:

StriX (4): jampidampi, OmniEulogy, Spaghetticus, cDgCorazon
jampidampi (1): Sylencia
OmniEulogy (3): Mocsta, zarepath, StriX

Not voting (1): TeMiL

Currently, StriX is set to be lynched! 30 minutes until deadline.
Just as a reminder, day 1 deadline will be at 01:00 GMT (+00:00), because of the performed YOLO.

All Vote plz.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
StriX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia42 Posts
January 05 2013 00:32 GMT
#430
Survival = bad?
It's weird also that you are basically saying with your vote that I lurk more than TeMiL.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 05 2013 00:32 GMT
#431
Yeah. I know I said not to make posts 1 hr behind.

Remeber this..
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389091&currentpage=21#404

Took me 1 hr to make the argument against OmniEulogy.

Anyways, I am not available @ lynch deadline, as I am leaving the house in 2min.
I was set on TeMiL.. i asked the coaches overnight for advice on whether to pursue the scum read, or vote the useless townie.

The advice they gave me, I took it under consideration and along with the other points I identified, I decided to make the post against Omni.

StriX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia42 Posts
January 05 2013 00:33 GMT
#432
@OmniEulogy
And Mocsta is also a good enough player that he can use my flip to clear his name. As I mentioned before if he doesn't die during the night it should become more and more suspicious.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
January 05 2013 00:34 GMT
#433
On January 05 2013 09:32 StriX wrote:
Survival = bad?
It's weird also that you are basically saying with your vote that I lurk more than TeMiL.


last game I refused to vote for somebody I believed was town because I knew it would lead to a win. You voting for somebody you didn't have a read on to live is extremely selfish. You didn't even try to convince us of your read afterwards. You just jumped on me. It's not a townie way of dying. You haven't given us any of the information you've built. You didn't even make a case on ME because you couldn't find one. This is NOT town behavior.
LiquidDota Staff
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
January 05 2013 00:35 GMT
#434
Unfortunately I have to go now,

if you want to keep your vote on StriX.. fine.. but my vote isnt going there.

when he flips town, i would be looking carefully . VERY carefully @ jampidampi and OmniEulogy.

Is it not interesting with such a small filter, Omni declares jampi (slight) town read, and then sheeps his vote on StriX.


Spag/Cora.,,, whether you agree with me or disagree, we will find out post-deadline.. but if Strix is voted off, and he is town, you guys are coming under serious fire from me Night 1 (dw, i dont expect to live Day 2)

Peace OUT.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
January 05 2013 00:37 GMT
#435
I'll be back in 10~ minutes. Guys trust me. I am town. Cora/Spag if you guys have any questions that I need to answer for you to be sure please ask. I have nothing to hide.
LiquidDota Staff
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 05 2013 00:38 GMT
#436
On January 05 2013 09:35 Mocsta wrote:
Unfortunately I have to go now,

if you want to keep your vote on StriX.. fine.. but my vote isnt going there.

when he flips town, i would be looking carefully . VERY carefully @ jampidampi and OmniEulogy.

Is it not interesting with such a small filter, Omni declares jampi (slight) town read, and then sheeps his vote on StriX.


Spag/Cora.,,, whether you agree with me or disagree, we will find out post-deadline.. but if Strix is voted off, and he is town, you guys are coming under serious fire from me Night 1 (dw, i dont expect to live Day 2)

Peace OUT.


Same goes for you if StriX flips scum. I've been holding off a case for you because I don't want to create a chaotic town environment right before the lynch, unlike yourself.

If StriX flips town, then I'm all for going after OE. I didn't have very many good reads, and OE presented a convincing case and allowed StriX to have time to defend himself.
Grubby's #1 Fan
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
January 05 2013 00:38 GMT
#437
On January 05 2013 09:37 OmniEulogy wrote:
I'll be back in 10~ minutes. Guys trust me. I am town. Cora/Spag if you guys have any questions that I need to answer for you to be sure please ask. I have nothing to hide.


I'll save my questions until after the flip.
Grubby's #1 Fan
StriX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia42 Posts
January 05 2013 00:38 GMT
#438
Seems the fire is burning full flame. You're very good at baiting me into responding.
I now believe the mafia pair to be Omni + Mocsta. Mocsta until this point has been baiting jampidampi into me and is using this vote to clear himself. Mocsta also very cleverly uses this out of character last minute post case on OmniEulogy to clear himself after my flip. It becomes even more suspicious when I mention IF mocsta doesn't die as if I am the one who chooses (mia cupla).

Be very careful of the leading nature of Mocsta's Question time. OmniEulogy is very good at rehashing made points.

That is all.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
January 05 2013 00:39 GMT
#439
Omni: Associate after flips, not before.

My vote will not go to Omni, because this has happened too many times in the past, where things get brought up in the last hour, and everyone rushes to change - causing a bandwagon that makes it hard to tell what the hell happened. It would not change who would be lynched, but it is better to be left fully analysed after the lynch rather than before.

My vote will stay on jampi because 1) I want to reinforce that he cannot continue posting once per 12 hours (exaggeration, obviously) and expect to get away with it. 2) For future votes, at least this can be noted for the future if that is the case that is required.

Also, just on this point:
On January 05 2013 09:28 Spaghetticus wrote:
Please note that I believe StriX' most recent action is purely for survival. He perceives the stagnant state of the Jamp wagon, but sees new hope in the spontaneous Omni wagon.


It is his only option, because he cannot vote for himself if he wants to leave, and so the only action is to go to the person with the most votes. It isn't necessarily telling of anything, because everyone would do the same thing.
Spaghetticus
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia451 Posts
January 05 2013 00:41 GMT
#440
On January 05 2013 09:32 StriX wrote:
Survival = bad?
It's weird also that you are basically saying with your vote that I lurk more than TeMiL.


As a town or scum it's semi-expected of you. What I was implying is that while people see the vote numbers, they should disregard yours as it does not lay at the same place as your top scum read.

@Omni
While I'm deliberately keeping away from you, it's not because I don't see a case. If StriX had tunneled you instead of being scummy/lazy it would probably be your head. Don't mistake my abstaining from scum-hunting you as you not coming across as scummy. I would have been more than happy with a lynch on you, I just don't trust myself to find the townsign if it is there.
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 50 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 56
CranKy Ducklings68
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 552
mcanning 35
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 36854
Bisu 3194
BeSt 2158
Flash 1506
Jaedong 1231
EffOrt 1023
Barracks 987
ggaemo 804
Mini 473
firebathero 409
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 352
Larva 248
Last 191
Soma 110
hero 102
Mind 95
TY 92
ToSsGirL 87
Snow 86
Hyun 52
Sea.KH 42
JYJ38
Sacsri 38
[sc1f]eonzerg 38
Movie 37
sSak 36
Free 35
sorry 25
soO 17
Icarus 16
sas.Sziky 14
Bale 12
Hm[arnc] 10
Terrorterran 8
IntoTheRainbow 6
ivOry 4
GuemChi 0
Dota 2
Gorgc4303
qojqva3628
KheZu256
XcaliburYe244
420jenkins241
League of Legends
Reynor94
Counter-Strike
ScreaM3688
byalli413
markeloff338
edward55
kRYSTAL_35
Heroes of the Storm
XaKoH 212
Other Games
singsing2321
B2W.Neo1023
hiko1002
DeMusliM427
crisheroes408
Fuzer 296
Lowko223
Hui .212
oskar199
Happy173
QueenE49
rGuardiaN30
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 31
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta174
• StrangeGG 68
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3481
• WagamamaTV476
League of Legends
• Jankos1006
Upcoming Events
Online Event
2h 13m
Wayne vs ArT
Strange vs Nicoract
Shameless vs GgMaChine
YoungYakov vs MilkiCow
OSC
4h 13m
Cham vs Bunny
ByuN vs TriGGeR
SHIN vs Krystianer
ShoWTimE vs Spirit
WardiTV European League
1d 2h
MaNa vs NightPhoenix
ByuN vs YoungYakov
ShoWTimE vs Nicoract
Harstem vs ArT
Korean StarCraft League
1d 13h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 20h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 22h
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
WardiTV European League
2 days
Online Event
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
3 days
Bonyth vs TBD
[ Show More ]
WardiTV European League
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
OSC
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
Roobet Cup 2025
Yuqilin POB S2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.