|
On February 05 2013 06:01 RockHydra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 21:19 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Second, I agree that Aperture needs to die. ... Why not advising Xfire doesn't make him town: if I were scum I would advise Xfire to blow shit up at the end of the attack phase (before damage resolution of course). This has 2 advantages: the first is that town might spend extra resources in killing you and the second is that you know exactly how much damage you need to prevent. The disadvantage is that town might blow up your creatures before you can blow shit up, meaning you might need to sac more lands.
/Acro hmmm I disagree with this. You might be right about that it would actually be better to wait, but then why DIDN'T he wait? /zebezt His point is that GreY and I are good at MtG, therefore we would have told Xfire to wait.
At least I think thats it
|
I am much more comfortable killing stutters than suck. The analysis you provided us clock really hints at a lot of the same things I talked about. However, I will be the first to admit that suck has for some reason slipped under my radar all game, and thats probably not a good sign. I'll take a look at him tonight. I will help town do whatever needs to be done, which from my standpoint I assume is forking that damage onto cross. Just let me know when you need it.
-GreY
|
I am actually a little disappointed that the image of us isn't just two forks.
I hate what my hand has become -_-
~grok
|
On February 06 2013 06:01 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 03:13 RockHydra wrote:On February 06 2013 03:08 Nova_Terra wrote: I'm not even going to try to defend this cause if you want to see it that way go ahead, im not gonna stop you. However I think that I can use a Marv defense here and say that my scum play is much better than what you give credit it for If this is your town play, then your scum play probably sucks as well.  /zebezt Didnt notice this You should go choke on a large cryptoplasm Perhaps... THE MIMEOPLASM
|
I'm not actually here, just goofing off at work.
Basically, I got like 1/3 through rock's filter and felt enough towniness to convince GreY.
|
Now give me a damn two forks picture! <3
|
Attacking me is a waste of time since I still cannot do anything. I have 6 lands and a brightstone ritual. There is not a single card I could draw that would let me do anything next turn either.
Kill off suck and stutters, suck because theres a good case on him, and stutters because I still think he's scum and if he is, next turn he''ll be unkillable.
|
On February 07 2013 00:44 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 00:39 Aperture Science wrote: Attacking me is a waste of time since I still cannot do anything. I have 6 lands and a brightstone ritual. There is not a single card I could draw that would let me do anything next turn either.
Kill off suck and stutters, suck because theres a good case on him, and stutters because I still think he's scum and if he is, next turn he''ll be unkillable. it's too late, we're both doomed This is so dumb.
It has been an honor, and a privilege.
|
On February 07 2013 01:01 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 00:54 Aperture Science wrote:On February 07 2013 00:44 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:On February 07 2013 00:39 Aperture Science wrote: Attacking me is a waste of time since I still cannot do anything. I have 6 lands and a brightstone ritual. There is not a single card I could draw that would let me do anything next turn either.
Kill off suck and stutters, suck because theres a good case on him, and stutters because I still think he's scum and if he is, next turn he''ll be unkillable. it's too late, we're both doomed This is so dumb. It has been an honor, and a privilege. given we're both deaded this turn, tell me straight. you mafia broski? Nope.
##"Accidentally" drop all cards in my hand to the table, revealing them iGrok reveals: Mountain Mountain Mountain Scalding Tarn Brightstone Ritual
4 lands and brightstone. I forgot GreY played a land this turn.
|
He contradicts himself multiple times, and (to me at least) it seems like he's always trying to be on whatever bandwagon is rolling (but never on it TOO hard).
I read a lot of people say stutters was a town read, but I didn't really think there were convincing arguments for that. I still think he is on the FBI's Most Wanted list
|
On February 07 2013 01:27 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: And you're fairly sure Rock is town, right? Hasn't he gone with the flow in a very similar way to Stutters?
This all kinda matters because if we both flip town and CH/DFTP are taking Stutters to be sure town when he isn't, then that really will be throwing away a won game. Rock felt extremely town for the first half of the game. I cannot imagine him being scum.
|
On February 07 2013 01:37 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: So you two, what about Nova?
/G Nova is the kinda guy that everyone has found scummy but just keeps slipping down the priority list.
|
On February 07 2013 01:53 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:Anyways, when Clock isn't around there seems to be quite civil conversations here lol. So Suck/Aperture, better post your reads/thoughts etc before they get here  I have a feeling both of you will flip town....but meh this still feels like the right choice (at least with what we have, i.e all the attacks already made, or at least when Clock made his initial attack) /G How is it the right choice when you think BOTH of us will flip town?
Like, do what you think is right, but what?
|
If I hadn't randomly discarded Epic Experiment, you were all dead. Artanis told me my draw list.
That would have been game this turn.
EE for 7, pulling Grapeshot, Grapeshot, Braid, Volcanic, Cascade, Psychic, Mind's Desire.
Cast Braid, Grapeshot(3), Grapeshot(4), Psychic, Mind's Desire(6).
Pull Mind's Desire, Empty the Warrens, Cunning Wish, Minds Desire, Braid, Psychic, Reverberate.
Cast Cunning Wish (put Comet Storm in my hand), Braid, Psychic, Empty the Warrens(10), Mind's Desire(11)
Pull Grapeshot, Cunning Wish, Cascade Bluffs, Brightstone Ritual, Grapeshot, Scalding Tarn, Brightstone Ritual, Cunning Wish, Braid of Fire, Empty the Warrens, Mind's Desire
Cast Wish, Braid, Brightstone, Brightstone, Grapeshot(16), Empty the Warrens(17).
Allow both Brightstones to resolve, generating 38 R mana.
Cast Comet Storm from hand targeting all other players, deal 32 damage to each.
GG.
|
On February 07 2013 03:07 Stutters695 wrote: My hand really was ass after I got those random discards going into t2 That really fucked my shit up.
AS were you being honest about your hand or did you have some serious stuff up your sleeve if we didn't kill you? No my hand was shit because I randomly discarded Epic Experiment. Its the engine of my deck, without it this deck is worthless.
And the reason i discarded it was because, as I said, I was working 12 hour days and thought I sent in the discards but didn't.
So I blame this game loss on RNG and am extremely frustrated.
|
Seriously that one thing pissed me off more than any other thing in a mafia game ever.
I know Artanis is a stickler when it comes to RNG. But there comes a point when as a host, you look at the RNGs and say, "This will completely ruin the game.", and re-roll. I do this all the time in my games.
Yes, I had a really good combo deck. But I could do literally nothing except fork and reverberate until then. I traded any capability to defend myself for a game-ending combo (which isn't infinite - unless I allow the psychic spirals to resolve and build my storm count up to 60). I left myself WIDE OPEN to attack all game long. And to get fucked over by an RNG, right after coming home exhausted, really set me off.
|
tl;dr: scum should have won this game, Its my fault they didn't, and so I am town MVP.
|
On February 07 2013 03:17 MidnightGladius wrote: lol, I can't believe you were allowed to play an alignment-disregarding finisher in Comet Storm. I have no sympathy for you :3 Oh, so MTG should only cater to people who just want to play big monsters and swing? (Or lots of little ones I guess)
|
On February 07 2013 03:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 03:16 Aperture Science wrote: tl;dr: scum should have won this game, Its my fault they didn't, and so I am town MVP. Scum shouldn't have won this game. Artanis should've never allowed iGrok's deck because if Artanis actually paid attention and noticed the Collective Voyage things and paid greater attention to Braid of Fire earlier iGrok's deck would have never been in the game. Mafia wise, Town demolished Scum and deserves the victory. Horse-shit.
Crossfire claimed scum, and I only died at the end because of momentum. The only person who had me as their #1 scumread was NOBODY.
Clock -> Suck Stutters -> Nova DFTP -> no one. Nova -> Stutters
|
|
|
|