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On February 02 2013 05:02 Crossfire99 wrote: ##Sacrifice: Goblin Guide: Activate The Abyss, targeting Basking Rootwalla ##Sacrifice: Deathrite Shaman: Activate The Abyss, targeting Zombie Infestation
Okay now I think I hate this game:
-Scum has super beast that kills townies every single turn -We don't have a flip or anything until way late in the game -Even if a scum outs himself we can't kill him until like 10 turns later
Fuck this shit.
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Although to be honest I think if S&B hadn't mentioned that maybe Xfire wouldn't have realized it >_>
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@Grey: Your buddy seems to think a hydra scum is more likely, and most of us seemed to think that way as well. Is your "suspicion" on Stutters enough to overcome all that?
On February 02 2013 05:11 marvellosity wrote: so Crossfire has a card that instantly deals 16 damage and gives himself 16 life
This I don't know why Artanis would allow that kind of card, specially on SCUM.
On February 02 2013 05:21 Crossfire99 wrote: ##Sacrifice: Mountain: Activate The Abyss, targeting a Zombie token
...HGHHGHGHH ASDFASjidhakjsdhbakjhfbskjhLIDSANHLFKASDNFOKAJSDHLASJNLKASDFASFAS
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AND THAT IS NOT "FAKE" RAGE XFIRE, UNLIKE YOURS
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Well at least it confirms CH and Suck as town, like 100% basically.
Silver lining I FUCKING GUESS
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Okay, how about:
"I don't know why Artanis would allow that kind of card. PERIOD Specially if there is a chance based on RNG that it falls on scum"
Also Grey, are you like fazed at all about Xfire surviving 1 more day, or do you not give a shit about it?
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On February 02 2013 05:28 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 05:25 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: Well at least it confirms CH and Suck as town, like 100% basically.
Silver lining I FUCKING GUESS how much damage can Crossfire do to us if he survives another turn?
How the fuck should I know?
He may have another of those "Syphon Soul" in his hand, thus he can play another Swamp tomorrow, cast it, and survive even longer.
Guess what? If he gets ANOTHER Syphon Soul he can SURVIVE EVEN LONGER
NICE. REAL FUCKING NICE
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I mean, Xfire isn't sacking other lands, thus it's a possibility he's planning on casting another "3 mana" card tomorrow, which could very well be Syphon Soul
If he didn't have that card, or another "card that can totally fuck town for shizzle" in his hand, then I think he would have sacked at least 1 more land, just to be sure he wouldn't die.
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How can Aperture guarantee his death?
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On February 02 2013 05:32 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Well, I guess now there's no rush. Xfire has 2 lands and nothing in play anymore. I guess Nova can sort his own deck out, and we'll just do 9 damage in the attack phase, leaving Xfire at 3 life. Presumably people can actually do stuff next turn.
Btw, we will probably need 2 turns to recover from the loss of ZI, but if we are lucky, we might draw another one next turn (we will have some help).
Yeah, it's not like he'll do this as soon as the next Main Phase starts:
##Cast: Swamp ##Tap Badlands for 1 black mana ##Tap Badlands for 1 black mana ##Tap Swamp ##Cast Syphon Soul
In fact, I PREDICT that's what he'll do, just because it's the only way things can get worse for us, therefore it will happen
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On February 02 2013 05:34 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 05:32 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: How can Aperture guarantee his death? I thought he could do a certain amount of damage by sacrificing some card? If not, I'm just gonna shut up talking about Magic things.
He already did, check the Board thread. He dealt 3 damage to Xfire by copying my Chain Lightning
Anyways, Yeah, Appy is posting and doesn't even seem to give a shit that A CONFIRMED SCUM WILL LIVE ANOTHER DAY. Like....h...waht.....aahasd
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On February 02 2013 05:36 Clockwork Hydra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 05:34 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:On February 02 2013 05:32 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Well, I guess now there's no rush. Xfire has 2 lands and nothing in play anymore. I guess Nova can sort his own deck out, and we'll just do 9 damage in the attack phase, leaving Xfire at 3 life. Presumably people can actually do stuff next turn.
Btw, we will probably need 2 turns to recover from the loss of ZI, but if we are lucky, we might draw another one next turn (we will have some help). Yeah, it's not like he'll do this as soon as the next Main Phase starts: ##Cast: Swamp ##Tap Badlands for 1 black mana ##Tap Badlands for 1 black mana ##Tap Swamp ##Cast Syphon SoulIn fact, I PREDICT that's what he'll do, just because it's the only way things can get worse for us, therefore it will happen So let's think about ways to outdamage that.A kill is not going to happen this turn. So, you guys build up for the next one. Keep in mind, if they kill bin this turn, Syphon "only" does 14 damage / heal, which is really very balanced and totally okay. ~dandel
Yeah you guys think about that, I have to cool down a little bit
I already said what cards I have in my hand. With 5 lands tomorrow I guess I can play a Zeldon Marauders, which will deal 1 damage. Then I play Reckless Abandon (sacrifice Zeldon Marauder), and deal 4 damage. Then I can play Unearth, bring back Zeldon Marauder, and do 1 more damage. If I have the mana, I can tap Grim Lavamancer and do 2 damage.
I need 5 mana for all of that, which I'll have because of the lands I got from Bin's land (I think, I also have a Mountain in my hand)
So I can do 8 damage next turn (can't attack with anything), and have GL and Zeldon Marauders in play. That's not taking into account which card I draw though (it may be Ball Lightning which may be sweet)
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Oh 9 then...
....I guess it's a pretty sweet strategy lol. I hadn't even think about it when I decided to discard the other cards LOL I'm a SUBCONSCIOUS MTG GENIUS lol
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ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION GREY
DE.DAM.KESTION
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On February 02 2013 07:09 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Anyways, snb being an idiot aside, according to my calculations I did with Microsoft Calculator(tm), we have enough damage between everybody to kill both Cross and Aperture next turn.
Even if Cross does another soul syphon.
So....
GG
~dandel
This looks good.
Anyways, yeah I suggest we stop giving scum ways to counter our plans. I mean....I kind of think Xfire didn't actually figure out the whole global card thing, if not he'd be doing it immediately (and not wait until one of US destroyed one of his creatures likely). I don't think it's safe to assume he'd figure it out by himself. Unless he did plan it and used it now since we "knew" he'd "know" it? Or something...?
Anyways, I'm okay killing Aperture tomorrow. Now he's apparently going against Stutters, completely ignoring what iGrok was saying like every 2 posts of his ("focus on hydras" "focus on hydras" "focus on hydras"), and of course not answering DEDAMKESTION I asked him regarding this.
He also didn't seem fazed at all by: 1)Xfire's scum claim 2)Xfire surviving today's kill
I went completely nuts when Xfire did that whole shit. Yet Grey was calm as shit. Dunno....maybe he's all zen and stuff, but that's also weird
Also he never confronted any of the stuff I said in my case, he just said "I'm busy" and "I respond bad to pressure". Yeah, because that explains why he hasn't done any scumhunting at all, and all the other shit I said. Even Xfire did more scumhunting than him, and Xfire has like 1 page of filter and claimed scum.
There are some little things that could make him town....but I kind of want to ignore them.
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Well....Aperture was AFK at that time wasn't him? 
You could also make the argument for Nova or Stutters not knowing much about game strategies to figure it out or some shit, or just straight up not showing up in the QT to tell him.
Thus we are at the same spot basically.
This didn't seem like an elaborate strategy from Suck to "confirm himself as town" by "giving" Xfire the idea and him implementing it, and of course Suck seems town for other reasons. CH is town for....like a bunch of shit I don't want to list, again has nothing to do with him "giving him advice", although that could still hold. Bin is town for having scum trying to kill him asap and other reasons. Rock seems townie for dispatching Xfire's Soul Warden, which would seem unnecessary for Xfire to put out in the first place if Rock planned it since the beginning (or at least knew it could happen once they saw the global card....I assume).
So the whole "who gave him advice" thing doesn't tell me much unfortunately :/
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On February 02 2013 09:11 gonzaw wrote: I think it might be a good idea to have Aperture just out his whole hand and deck to us lol. I don't really want to see him play an "anti-town" card later out of nowhere that can fuck us up, without us knowing first or him lying about it and thus confirming himself as scum.
I know I kind of tried to "force" this the previous game with Grey...and he just straight up refused...and then he was misslynched....and then town lost the game; but it might be a good idea to enforce it today
Answer the question about what his deck is about would be a good way too. [hr Anyways Aperture, the only other hydra I could see as scum (which I don't actually do) is Rock. So.....either convince us why the fuck there'd be 2 "non-hydra non-vets" scum in this game (which we already stated had less than 9% chance of happening, hell I'd even say less than 5% considering the hydra/vet balance thing) [also actually making a good case against Stutters/Nova and being very convincing about it], or start making a convincing case against Rock, which should be very convincing.
Answering questions and giving a crap about whether town can kill a confirmed scum or not would be a good start as well.
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Derp first hydra fail ;_;
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Gonzaw loses the hydra game. And I disagree with him on Rock. I know Hope and he feels town.
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Yes it's true, it's true regardless of any 6 players out of 9 you choose. However, it is indeed true. And it has all that balance stuff supporting it
I just want Aperture to be the one convincing me it's not true...since apparently he's the only one in the game advocating it (not only that, 1 of his hydra heads even supports it)
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Ehmm......there's no way I'm reading that stuff lol. A PBPA with 0s and 1s next to it?
Please try to make it more "readable", preferable in TL format (quotes and shit).
Also.....like...could you at least try to defend yourself against my case? At least a little bit? Like...is that possible?
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