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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 10:49 GMT
#241
On December 13 2012 19:12 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 17:59 Keirathi wrote:
On December 13 2012 17:54 yamato77 wrote:
The hell, Clarity. Why would you swap a town read out and a scum read in?

Not to mention your actions resulted in another scum, Foolishness, coming over here.

Now there exists the likelihood that all four scum are in this thread and the other thread is going to lynch into only town.

And then there's that red text about destabilization. Ugh. So much weird shit to make sense of.

Do YOU think I'm scum?

Regardless of if Clarity did or not. How likely do you think it is that all 4 of the scum are in this world now?

I just pointed out that the possibility exists, and that if he found you scummy and foolish scummy then his actions basically put the two scum reads from that thread into this one regardless of his intent or not. I still don't see why he would want to mess with the balance of scum/town in each realm by swapping players he actually had a read on.

Too much dumb shit has been done this game with the excuse of "generating discussion"


Actually, you said "in the likelihood"

I would swap a town read out and a secondary scumread in because it will give the town that is currently lynching a better balance in favor of town. Yes, it also generates discussion, call it dumb all you want.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 10:51 GMT
#242
On December 13 2012 19:47 sandroba wrote:
I'd say I would be surprised/dissapointed if foolishness is not scum at this point. His angry outburst after some shaddy logic reminded me of when he got mad at me for calling him scum multiple times in ptp2 where he was scum. I don't recal him ever reacting that way as town. Also I'd like to know how/why he was swapped into this world.


Here's the way I see it. It happened with a day action, which means it has to be part of his role, right? Since he can not have done a night action that would make him follow anyone. In this scenario I don't see it benefiting a town role at all.
Then there's the whole "everything about him has been scummy so far" thing.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 13 2012 10:53 GMT
#243
Yeah that is the same reasoning Marv gave. Could be that his continued absence since then is largely due to this fact. Scum resigned to his fate. Once you've been pinched, keep your mouth shut.

Unfortunately if he is scum he isn't going to tell us anything about his involvement in this swap or how it was done. My thinking on the matter is that he was swapped by scum who has a power similar to Clarity's. Or Clarity is scum and knew that somehow his power would result in the swap of Foolishness out of the lynch cycle.

But for affirmation, can you link me the game you refer to?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 13 2012 10:55 GMT
#244
On December 13 2012 19:49 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 19:12 yamato77 wrote:
On December 13 2012 17:59 Keirathi wrote:
On December 13 2012 17:54 yamato77 wrote:
The hell, Clarity. Why would you swap a town read out and a scum read in?

Not to mention your actions resulted in another scum, Foolishness, coming over here.

Now there exists the likelihood that all four scum are in this thread and the other thread is going to lynch into only town.

And then there's that red text about destabilization. Ugh. So much weird shit to make sense of.

Do YOU think I'm scum?

Regardless of if Clarity did or not. How likely do you think it is that all 4 of the scum are in this world now?

I just pointed out that the possibility exists, and that if he found you scummy and foolish scummy then his actions basically put the two scum reads from that thread into this one regardless of his intent or not. I still don't see why he would want to mess with the balance of scum/town in each realm by swapping players he actually had a read on.

Too much dumb shit has been done this game with the excuse of "generating discussion"


Actually, you said "in the likelihood"

I would swap a town read out and a secondary scumread in because it will give the town that is currently lynching a better balance in favor of town. Yes, it also generates discussion, call it dumb all you want.

Can you do this tomorrow? Because I think our lynch is going to be pretty important.
Writer@WriterYamato
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 10:57 GMT
#245
GreY's world is empty right now and I'm around, you're around. Why can't we do it now?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 13 2012 10:58 GMT
#246
Also explain your scum read on Keir
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 13 2012 10:59 GMT
#247
On December 13 2012 19:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
GreY's world is empty right now and I'm around, you're around. Why can't we do it now?

I'm saying can you swap again tomorrow. I'm all for discussing.
Writer@WriterYamato
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 11:02 GMT
#248
Look at his filter in Greyland. He is very eager to jump into reaction mode with empty 1-liners, and only said more when it was about setup. I don't think the reaction to Foolish will be any different since any scum would be smart to bus his immediately.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 13 2012 11:02 GMT
#249
Just search pick their power 2 or PTP 2.
@clarity why did you think austin was town?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 11:07 GMT
#250
On December 13 2012 20:02 sandroba wrote:
Just search pick their power 2 or PTP 2.
@clarity why did you think austin was town?


Mainly his interaction with yamato, he basically acted the same way I would have reacted. Other than that his play is way different from chrono.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 11:10 GMT
#251
On December 13 2012 19:59 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 19:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
GreY's world is empty right now and I'm around, you're around. Why can't we do it now?

I'm saying can you swap again tomorrow. I'm all for discussing.


I'd rather not say.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 13 2012 11:16 GMT
#252
Would it be asking too much to add filter links to both worlds? =)
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 13 2012 11:22 GMT
#253
On December 13 2012 20:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 19:59 yamato77 wrote:
On December 13 2012 19:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
GreY's world is empty right now and I'm around, you're around. Why can't we do it now?

I'm saying can you swap again tomorrow. I'm all for discussing.


I'd rather not say.

Well if you can't then you fucked over a D2 lynch for a more "pro-town" D1 lynch which makes no sense.

That is, according to your own reads. If that's the case then your move really does look dumb because Foolishness was going to get lynched and he was your top scum read anyway. So why swap at all? You thinking that it somehow made the lynch more pro-town isn't convincing.

Also you need to explain these reads you claim to have.
Writer@WriterYamato
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 11:24 GMT
#254
On December 13 2012 20:22 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 20:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
On December 13 2012 19:59 yamato77 wrote:
On December 13 2012 19:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
GreY's world is empty right now and I'm around, you're around. Why can't we do it now?

I'm saying can you swap again tomorrow. I'm all for discussing.


I'd rather not say.

Well if you can't then you fucked over a D2 lynch for a more "pro-town" D1 lynch which makes no sense.

That is, according to your own reads. If that's the case then your move really does look dumb because Foolishness was going to get lynched and he was your top scum read anyway. So why swap at all? You thinking that it somehow made the lynch more pro-town isn't convincing.

Also you need to explain these reads you claim to have.


zzzzz. I swapped keir so he could be lynched d2 is deemed scummy enough, then if he flips red (after foolish does D1) we know that in greyland there reside only town and possible 3p.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 13 2012 11:25 GMT
#255
On December 13 2012 20:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 20:02 sandroba wrote:
Just search pick their power 2 or PTP 2.
@clarity why did you think austin was town?


Mainly his interaction with yamato, he basically acted the same way I would have reacted. Other than that his play is way different from chrono.

So your read on Austin is a meta read and a defense of his side of our relatively useless discussion, I see? And somehow that makes him more town than, say, Sandro? I don't buy it.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 13 2012 11:27 GMT
#256
On December 13 2012 20:24 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 20:22 yamato77 wrote:
On December 13 2012 20:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
On December 13 2012 19:59 yamato77 wrote:
On December 13 2012 19:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
GreY's world is empty right now and I'm around, you're around. Why can't we do it now?

I'm saying can you swap again tomorrow. I'm all for discussing.


I'd rather not say.

Well if you can't then you fucked over a D2 lynch for a more "pro-town" D1 lynch which makes no sense.

That is, according to your own reads. If that's the case then your move really does look dumb because Foolishness was going to get lynched and he was your top scum read anyway. So why swap at all? You thinking that it somehow made the lynch more pro-town isn't convincing.

Also you need to explain these reads you claim to have.


zzzzz. I swapped keir so he could be lynched d2 is deemed scummy enough, then if he flips red (after foolish does D1) we know that in greyland there reside only town and possible 3p.

Okay but why do you think Keir is scum in the first place?
Writer@WriterYamato
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 11:27 GMT
#257
On December 13 2012 20:25 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 20:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
On December 13 2012 20:02 sandroba wrote:
Just search pick their power 2 or PTP 2.
@clarity why did you think austin was town?


Mainly his interaction with yamato, he basically acted the same way I would have reacted. Other than that his play is way different from chrono.

So your read on Austin is a meta read and a defense of his side of our relatively useless discussion, I see? And somehow that makes him more town than, say, Sandro? I don't buy it.


Yes, he's more likely town than Sandro. Sandro gave me a null read when people were electing him in chrono, he's giving me a null read now.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 13 2012 11:27 GMT
#258
On December 13 2012 20:27 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 20:24 Clarity_nl wrote:
On December 13 2012 20:22 yamato77 wrote:
On December 13 2012 20:10 Clarity_nl wrote:
On December 13 2012 19:59 yamato77 wrote:
On December 13 2012 19:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
GreY's world is empty right now and I'm around, you're around. Why can't we do it now?

I'm saying can you swap again tomorrow. I'm all for discussing.


I'd rather not say.

Well if you can't then you fucked over a D2 lynch for a more "pro-town" D1 lynch which makes no sense.

That is, according to your own reads. If that's the case then your move really does look dumb because Foolishness was going to get lynched and he was your top scum read anyway. So why swap at all? You thinking that it somehow made the lynch more pro-town isn't convincing.

Also you need to explain these reads you claim to have.


zzzzz. I swapped keir so he could be lynched d2 is deemed scummy enough, then if he flips red (after foolish does D1) we know that in greyland there reside only town and possible 3p.

Okay but why do you think Keir is scum in the first place?


Read the fucking thread.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 13 2012 11:31 GMT
#259
I read his filter and I get a pretty blend scum vibe. He has posted literally nothing useful.

Ok Clarity I'll stop annoying you now.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 13 2012 11:38 GMT
#260
But I disagree on the sand/Austin read.
Writer@WriterYamato
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