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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 07:27 GMT
#280
No idea, not nearly enough information to say somebody is scum or not. I might consider lynching austin just because I still think focusing lynches on people who started on one world first is a decent idea if there are no better alternatives.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 07:29 GMT
#282
Question for you, I think you were actively watching as greymist did those posts and i want to ask the following. Did it originally only do keir + austin swap and foolishness was added in during the edit?
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 07:38 GMT
#284
Let me read the other side with him in mind and see where I end up. If I feel that he's townie too then obviously I won't lynch him solely because he's from the other side.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 08:06 GMT
#285
Well done reading, and I like him as townie too. That means I have no idea who to lynch and I don't like that because that lynch would have given us information. I think I'll just wait and see what the others have to say during their time period since it feels like we are back at square 1. If I get it right the day ends in 12 hours from now so I should be back and have a few hours to read up + decide before then.

It does end in about 12 hours right?
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 08:14 GMT
#287
16 is right. Time to sleep then.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 19:56 GMT
#335
Austin, You asked me earlier why I liked you for town. Keep in mind that its only a mild read. It's because I liked how you responded with yamato77 in the other thread.

What's up with that objection? a joke cause sloosh said it?
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 20:05 GMT
#338
It felt like you were responding rationally and calmly. It also felt like you "won" that discussion with him and since he and I disagreed on how to do swaps that probably made me like you.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 21:49 GMT
#373
Catching up on thread i'll respond in a moment.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 22:17 GMT
#405
I'll start from newest: About the whole clarity swap thing and my response. The way I see it information is a good thing. In that light, lynching somebody is a good thing because it gives us facts. After clarity's swap with foolishness getting removed I felt like oh now he won't flip and we won't get any information. Sure my vote wasn't on foolishness at the time, but I knew I would be back before I thought it ended (around 12 hours from when I went to bed it turned out to be 16, but still fine). Regardless, at the time foolishness already had 6 votes, and that's enough to get him lynched. I probably would've swapped at the end just in case somebody decides to un-vote. From the look of things it seems like there will be a no-lynch today simply because its almost deadline and there's maybe 6 people reading the thread who all have to agree on somebody to see them lynched in time. So my misgivings are at least valid.

About me not giving reads, NOBODY is giving real reads at the moment only they lean one way or another or simple "I have read his filter and he seems townie."

I was called out specifically and I answered. Would you have preferred "I read your filter I like you." ? Even you austin, with all your posts have not come out and said I feel strongly about one person or another. Sure you came out and made a decision with you objection, but none of those were "I feel he is sure town" before you confirmation.

About the whole swap idea. I still think it has potential since I said at the beginning I like facts and using the swap system to get facts about "confirmed townies" is good.The idea of the second scummiest is that we will have the flip from their most scummiest target before we had to make a final decision on ours. So if it was a one or the other option and the main target was scum then good, one down. If we got that decision wrong then at least the second target will die a day sooner. and that still leading towards the confirmed townie thing I like. If somehow we got both targets wrong then that's probably on the town for messing up rather than the idea being invalid. There is a valid concern about stacking one side with mafia so they will be able to control the vote, but I think if mafia control the vote that way they will be exposing themselves.

And worst case scenario they swapped us their second scummiest and he turns out scum and their primary target was townie. That still leads us with a decent lynch target who the mafia will have to make direct defenses of if they want to save him. And after that they still only have 3/(11-9 depending on if we mislynch today and if they kill somebody from our world) votes which is not enough to control the vote. Dunno, maybe 3/9 is cutting it too close since 5 out of the 6 non mafia have to vote against the mafia. At the time it felt like a good idea, and I'm still not convinced the idea itself is bad, although there might be better ones.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 22:17 GMT
#406
Holy crap this thread is moving fast, 2 pages since i started that block.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 22:25 GMT
#410
You guys have no idea how much it hurts having like 5 people say they think I'm a bad/stupid/worthless poster. You are all asses.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 22:59 GMT
#436
Since there's no clear scum target and not enough time to find one in the next hour. I think I'm going to have to join the Austin train simply because 3 confirmed townies is super powerful if he turns town, and if he turns scum then that's even better.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 13 2012 23:48 GMT
#474
I joined the bandwagon too!
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 15 2012 23:51 GMT
#636
I dunno if I should respond in length to tear apart foolishness's read on me or just call him wrong.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 15 2012 23:53 GMT
#638
That's so much more work I'll get working on it i guess.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 15 2012 23:56 GMT
#641
Before big wall of text, risen what do you have to say about crossfire99 coming over too since it's obvious you expected it to happen.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 16 2012 00:02 GMT
#645
If crossfire is "confirmed" by austin list then risen being his homie is supposedly confirmed. Unless a mafia and town get paired together.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 16 2012 00:02 GMT
#646
Actually, I think you realize that and are focusing more on his wording.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 16 2012 01:26 GMT
#662
On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote:
The best information the town has is from the start of the game "each world will begin with 2 mafia". So far people have not taken this into high consideration

As far as I know only one person came up with a plan to take advantage of this (sand) Who was coincidentally mafia's first target. Oh, and who know who was sand's biggest (only) supporter of that plan? ME. So if your going to call it a good idea to focus on that fact you should realize who supported actions which would take the biggest advantage of that fact.
On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote:
randombum? Yes, definitely mafia. Why? General avoidance to any topic of discussion. He simply has not said anything about anything the town is talking about.

What has honestly been "discussed". Nearly everybody has had the same/similar opinion. There was lynching you which everybody agreed on. There was austin's list which everybody pretty much narrowed it down to the same 3 or 4 people. The only real discussion (read divided opinions involving more than 2 people) was how to use the swap mechanic and I was there.
On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote:
randombum never talked about myself or marvellosity when the two of us were having a larger penis contest.

I felt it pointless to get into a penis contest when it started as A: "B is scum!" and B responses "No, A is scum!"
Apparently B won that since the whole town agreed to lynch you.

On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote:
His lynch was avoided because one or two people said they thought he was innocent (I believe austin and clarity were the two, could be wrong though).

You write that as if I somehow escaped getting lynched (Note: that was your lynch that was avodied) If you actually read the threads it was neither austin or clarity that supported me. The only person to throw suspicion on me was austin, and even his post was along the lines of "he's on my list and I like him LEAST"

Also, there was not a single vote for me ever that day, so I don't know what I'm supposedly avoiding.

On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote:
Given that he was one of 4 choices to be lynched he was awfully quiet

I don't know what you consider quiet. I responded to direct questions and posted my opinions. I wasn't nearly as vocal as austin, but that's because he has like 2/3 the posts in the thread since he's been here.

On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote:
He random voted for Palmar day 1 without any justification (read his filter if you don't believe me), hopped on the Kenpachi bandwagon, and hasn't said anything since.

The vote on Palmer was random, but I don't see how that points towards an alignment on day 1. The kenpachi vote was because there was under an hour before deadline, and not enough people wanted to lynch austin to check his role. I hopped on the wagon because I was trying to help avoid a no-lynch and he was everybody's choice. And by choice he was really more like the least bad choice.

Why I haven't said anything since? Its barely been 24 hours and it happened to be Friday night and Saturday afterwards. I had other things to do.


The bulk of your post has so many mistakes which to me implies you are not really reading the thread and are trying to avoid getting lynched tomorrow and the fact that you lock onto the only target that some people have showed some doubts on to try to save yourself in a last ditch effort. I mean you even accuse palmer when you claim this about austin

On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote:
It should be apparent from Austin's filter that he's either a town trying to do something or he's mafia with some master grand scheme using his role to confirm his mafia buddy as he watches the town crumble (the latter is very unlikely).

And this
On December 16 2012 06:55 Foolishness wrote:
Again Austin is the only true town player here

Either he's town and Palmer is town, or he is mafia which you call very unlikely. I cannot see a scenario where austin is both town and Palmer is anti-town. I don't think anybody who reads the thread can come up with that scenario either.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
December 16 2012 21:36 GMT
#682
On December 17 2012 05:40 austinmcc wrote:
Randombum,

Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 16:05 randombum wrote:
Honestly, at the moment you for screwing things up.


What did you mean by this statement to clarity? (This was from D1, when he swapped Keirathi and I)


That was more of a knee-jerk reaction. I saw foolishness getting swapped over as bad and wanted to blame the person I saw responsible. Don't make much of it.
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