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Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 18:14 GMT
#312
On December 13 2012 23:51 austinmcc wrote:
Dienosore, thoughts on clarity's swap? Read on Keirathi? Do you still find yamato townie?


I think Clarity is a total poop head for trying something like this hours before our vote. My heart's first instinct is to start a bandwagon to lynch Clarity, but my brain supposes he didn't actually know this was going to happen. I hope the people in iSL finish the job for us on their lynch day. Clarity, please no more random swaps.

My maps show me Keirathi has no support from anyone in this world, but not in the same way as Fool;He has no incomming lines AT ALL, which says to me that he's done a good job staying out of the spotlight. In iSL, he has one positive connection with Sandroba, who thinks he is town. He's been actively reading both threads. Blah blah blah. The only extraordinary point of interest so far is that Keir's main scum target was Kenpachi, not Fool. Not sure what that means, but I do find it intriguing that he would pick on someone who hasn't really done much this game.

The reason I find Yamato as town is because my maps indicate he has been fiercely interacting with something like 60% of the game's population. I just don't see a scumball creating such a large profile so early in the game, specially on a relatively non-threatening swap day. I guess you could argue that scum would use this time of peace to stir up as much trouble as possible, but my gut tells me he is just a deranged towny. I know you guys had a tense interaction in the other world, so please, I'd like to hear more of your thoughts about him too.

Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 19:06 GMT
#322
@keirathi: I designed the system in Chrono Trigger, and perfected it over 5-6 days while I was still alive. There is no problem with my maps. They merely show relationships, not if someone is town/scum. Regardless of whether or not what you said was in jest, your message still gets put out there for everyone to read. It influences their opinion EVEN IF YOU ARE JOKING. This sort of interaction will get put on my map every single time, and yes I will use it against you in a scumhunt.

@Blazinghand: "Any time a wagon gains momentum this quickly with no response it's on a townie." is just not true. Have you considered that the wagon was formed so fast that a mafia scumbuddy didn't have time to come to his defense before people were already jumping on? If someone hard defended Fool in this situation, it would have come off to me as incredibly scummy, especially since we were about to see his flip. If Fool had flipped mafia, then his scumbuddy who tried to defend him would have been immediately under the scope. Now that he isn't under direct threat, though, it is interesting to me to see who is coming to his defense...
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 19:16 GMT
#324
Planning for the future, maybe? iSL lynches someone tomorrow, and right now I'd assume Fool is the #1 target. If scum wanted to change the populations opinion on Fool so he is no longer on the block, what better time to do it than asap right now.

This isnt hard to understand. Are you intentionally being dense Sloosh?
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 19:26 GMT
#325
And what is all this nonsense about picking a phrase None of Palmar, slOosh or Crossfire99 are anti-town or whatever? Do you really think mafia are going to be tricked into accidentally incriminating themselves by picking the wrong answer? It's a divergent waste of time that instead could be used to actually find scum.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 19:38 GMT
#327
K so let me see if I have this right. Austin's power involves making other people ask questions, and then he get an answer that only he can read via pm. SOUNDS SKETCHY TO ME. It's hard for me to blindly trust someone like this. What's to stop him from lying about the results if he is scum?

Im paying attention to both worlds. I have two tabs open and I'm monitoring both at the same time.

I don't have any scum reads atm. I am curious, though, as to why you were so quick to swap your vote onto Crossfire with little explanation.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 19:39 GMT
#329
I'm starting to get hyped up lol. Gonna smoke a J and collect my thoughts. I'll be back later.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 21:11 GMT
#353
I agree with Sandroba that we should be focusing on Marv/Kenpachi. Neither have been particularly active, although Marv at least has made a little effort. It also seems Marv has positive support from a few people, while Kenpachi has only that 'joke' scum read from Keirathi.

Unless you guys convince me otherwise, I'll be voting for:

##Vote (Grey): Kenpachi
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 21:13 GMT
#354
EBWOP:

##Unvote (Grey): Foolishness
##Vote (Grey): Kenpachi
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 21:20 GMT
#357
What do I need to do to whip you guys into shape?

Do you want more pictures?

More cute dinosaurs?

More squiggles?

Just let me know and I will deliver!
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 21:31 GMT
#363
I've already explained my reasons, austin. If it feels like there isn't much substance there, it's because there isn't. Clarity fucked us over and now we have little time and little evidence to try and piece something together. I'm doing the best I can with what limited resources I have. Stop tunneling me and maybe put forth some of your opinions on who we should lynch.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 21:41 GMT
#370
@Blazinghand: Why do you hate me so much?

We literally have a world full of afkers, with one or two people stirring the same boring pot over and over again. There is no evidence to go on other than Austins objection. That still leaves 5-6 people with nothing super incriminating in their filter. The only logical step I see is to start taking potshots at the scummiest looking lurkers. If I'm wrong, then I've at least goaded people into talking. If I'm right, then hurray scumball down.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 21:59 GMT
#381
Austin, you think Sandroba is just "some guy" ? Lol. I think he is town because of his play thus far. He was scum last game, and I do not think he is playing at all similarly to how he did then.

Here is YOUR OWN list, slightly revised of course. I took out myself because I am not scum, and clarity because he is too strange:
randombum
marvellosity
kenpachi

Randombum at least made an effort earlier on.

I kinda think Marv could be scum, but I don't like a vote on him tonight because if he is town then he will be pretty valuable later on.

Kenpachi is the scummiest looking to me because he has done nothing all game.

Hence, my vote stands on Kenpachi. Are you happy now?
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 22:00 GMT
#382
Also, I hope someone can present a case that is stronger than what I have now. I feel bad for voting for Kenpachi on so little evidence.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 22:07 GMT
#389
It's less that I think kenpachi is totes scum and more that there aren't many other good options out there right now. I'll be glad to change my vote to randombum if kenpachi starts becoming useful really fast.

That is what you are trying to get me to do, right? Change my vote?
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 22:44 GMT
#428
haha, I like it marv.

##Unvote (Grey): Kenpachi
##Vote (Grey): autinmcc
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 22:51 GMT
#433
This is the cute dinosaur breathing fire on you.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 23:00 GMT
#439
1 more hour
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 23:17 GMT
#447
We lost our top read and the town was floundering. This sounds like the perfect time for a scumball to step in and start to influence people's opinions without looking too suspicious. What better way than create some vague detective check that no one can really confirm. It also creates the opportunity to give town cred to some names of his choosing.

I didn't feel comfortable voting for Kenpachi anyway. Even less once you guys mentioned he has a history of lurking. On the chance that I'm wrong about Austin and he does flip town, then we have three pretty much confirmed townies. If we are right and Austin is scum, then hurray scumball in a great position of power is down.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 23:43 GMT
#469
I assume it was in retaliation to me voting for him. (I was the first to do so, btw)
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
December 13 2012 23:46 GMT
#473
in the spirit of actually lynching someone, I change my vote again back to ken (Sorry Greymist&co for being so difficult. This hasnt been an easy day after clarity's debacle)

##Unvote (Grey): austinmcc
##Vote (Grey): Kenpachi
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