On December 27 2012 08:08 Aquanim wrote:
So, Orange, who do you think we should be lynching today?
So, Orange, who do you think we should be lynching today?
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On December 27 2012 08:08 Aquanim wrote: So, Orange, who do you think we should be lynching today? | ||
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On December 28 2012 02:14 shz wrote: Show nested quote + On December 27 2012 23:38 Chromatically wrote: On December 27 2012 13:42 shz wrote: ... This is really hard to get a grip on and in no way I am confidend in this days lynch. Fuck. Were you more confident in the other lynches? Seriously, this is the definition of the "hand-wringy scum thing" that marv talked about with Kickstart in XXXI. It's a lot easier to take a stand as scum if you act really uncertain about it, and that's exactly what he's doing when he's pressed for reads. Shz hasn't been confident in a single lynch all game. He nearly completely ignored the lynches d1 and 2, and didn't even vote for someone d2. Not only is this the scum trait of being uninvolved in lynches, it shows how the above quote is bs. There's no reason for shz to act all uncertain about todays lynch when he hasn't participated in any other lynch. By doing this, he also excuses himself from giving any confident scumreads, like he's been avoiding all game. He's being pressed for reads so he chooses the easy one but acts nervous to make himself look better when he flips town. I would be up for a shz lynch. At the very least, I'd have a very hard time voting Kickstart because of this. I explained why I'm not confidend. But being not confidend seems to be scummy, so if I just pull something out of my ass you will be satisfied? I don't think so, thats why I will not do it. I see the points on all the candidates, but I don't feel overly strong towards anyone. FC still didn't contribute anything. I would lynch kick and FC at least for t he lurking and on top of them for leaning towards scum. But I'm not vonfident that they will flip scum, but at least flip lurker. I will not spam two pages of player X IS 100% SCUM. That seems like your approach to his game. Uh, two posts. I said that in two posts. Not spam. The problem is that you haven't been confident in anything all game long. You have not taken a single stance all game. You didn't even vote on d2. D2 you blamed lurkers to excuse yourself for not having a a single strong scumread. There is NO reason for a townie to not even try to push their preferred candidate to lynch, but you didn't even vote. And now, you excuse yourself from having a scumread by talking about how unconfident you are. I would rather you spam "100% scum" than do what you're doing now. | ||
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If we assume that all three scum are in this group (excluding myself, Aqua, Cora, and cake): Kickstart FatChunk Orangeremi Syl shz and we assume that certain people are not in a scumteam: shz + Kick (Kick's top scumread was shz, pushed shz a little, shz will probably vote for Kick) Syl + Kick (Syl was one of the first to vote for Kick, still voting for Kick) Orange + FC (Orange is voting FC, has also voted him in d1) The only possible scumteam left is: shz + Syl + (Orange/FC) I don't see any scumteam that doesn't include shz and Syl, and I see no scumteam that includes Kick. | ||
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In fact, I think that this, along with his other scummy posting, is enough to warrant a shz lynch today: ##Unvote ##Vote: shz | ||
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I'm on my phone, so I can't quote posts, but he's just very uninterested in who is lynched. | ||
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Voteswitch time, everyone. | ||
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On December 28 2012 08:47 Aquanim wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2012 08:42 Chromatically wrote: shz had no scumreads all of d2 and had no original scumreads all of d1. How is this town play? Everyone who's not switching to shz needs to answer this. Well... it's slightly more town than parking your vote on someone with no explanation who flips town, and then leaving without trying to learn anything or generate any new information. Which is what FC and Orange did, I believe. Same for Kick, with the exception that his vote was for Shz (who hasn't flipped). I disagree that it's more town than that, first of all. Townies can be bad at explaining themselves or pressuring, scum are the ones who have a hard time finding scumreads. Also, Kick didn't do that, and he's the one that we're lynching. | ||
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So this basically clears shz. Orange and FC look very bad from how they tried to switch onto shz at the lat moment. They're really the only scummy players left in the game. | ||
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Omni flips town after I was super confident in his scumminess. I was still suspicious of shz, but I was far less confident and think that a lurker lynch is better at this point. You can see that I was still suspicious of shz, I was posting things about that. I vote FatChunk as pressure. The Kick wagon was taking off really fast and I wanted to hear from all lurkers today, so I put some pressure on him. shz posts something that I find very scummy, I write a post about it and say that "I would be up for a shz lynch today". I start pushing shz more and become more confident in my read on him, far more confident than what I think about the lurkers. I then come up with my amazing pre-flip association theory that I pretty quickly realize is a bad idea and start pushing shz hard until the lynch. So basically: 1. Tell people not to lurker lynch because of confidence in Omni 2. After Omni flip, think lurker lynch is good. 3. Not convinced on any lurker, see shz as way scummier. 4. Start pushing shz. Why I changed from lurker lynch to shz: unconfident in any lurker reads, confident in shz scum. | ||
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