EPTCurrently, Orangeremi is set to be lynched! ~12 hours remaining in day 1.
That can't be right, FC has more votes.
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Currently, Orangeremi is set to be lynched! ~12 hours remaining in day 1. That can't be right, FC has more votes. | ||
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The possibility of SK is the only thing preventing a solution to the game at this point. If we know that it is 5:2 and not 4:2:1, a foolproof solution to the game should be possible. If there is SK and we convince mafia team to concede, does the game go to 4 town vs 1 SK, or do we still have to lynch the mafia one by one (while still threatened by mafia NK if left unblocked)? | ||
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If there is SK and we convince mafia team to concede, does the game go to 4 town vs 1 SK, or do we still have to lynch the mafia one by one (while still threatened by mafia NK if left unblocked)? I have been told that the question is not kosher. Sorry! ----- On December 29 2012 08:54 Aquanim wrote: I'd prefer to lynch Orange first, if only because both he and Cakepie were roleblocked night two - assuming that there is one town RB and one scum RB, and that scum wouldn't fake a RB on themselves, a red flip on Orange confirms Cakepie town. ##Vote: orangeremi This is where I shall park my vote for the night, in case I oversleep. Don't take it too seriously. Let's see what FC has to say (although he still has yet to come in again, and it is lynch-7hrs already) | ||
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On December 31 2012 01:20 cakepie wrote: I really really hope there is no SK in this game. I can only see the game ending in EBWOP: LYLO, not Best case, we need 2 lynches to kill 2 mafia, in that time SK kills 2 town, we end up at 2 town vs 1 SK. A cop may not be helpful, SK could have investigation immunity. Off to bed for real this time | ||
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On December 31 2012 07:22 cDgCorazon wrote: Orange hasn't even voted yet. What do we do if he gets modkilled (or if it looks like he will get modkilled)? We will get both orange and fatchunk dead with one dayphase, two for the price of one, why not? Just be ready for a mad switch if need be -- but it will not be because of a modkill on orange. | ||
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On December 31 2012 08:12 Chromatically wrote:cakepie, why are you voting Orange? I had just wanted to park my vote overnight. ----- ##Vote: FatChunk Okay, FatChunk, here's the deal. If you are VT and will claim so honestly, I might be able to save you from the lynch with pure logical deduction and zero case analysis -- if you are not lying. If you are lying, then you deserve to die anyway. If you are going to claim something else -- I already saw it a mile away as the last possible, logical scum play by kick/orange/fc scumteam. That claim, coming so last minute is going to look ridiculously scummy. It may extend your life, but it will not help you win as scum. You may only seek to help an SK win, if there is one -- mafia team kingmaker, possibly. I am playing safe and looking for the win if possible, trying to preserve a little insurance against the small remaining possibility of SK in the game, even though general consensus is there is likely to be none. And if there is no SK in the game, kick/orange/fc is already guaranteed to lose. What is the last card in your hand? Out with it. | ||
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On December 31 2012 08:27 cakepie wrote: If you are going to claim something else -- I already saw it a mile away as the last possible, logical scum play by kick/orange/fc scumteam. That claim, coming so last minute is going to look ridiculously scummy. It may extend your life, but it will not help you win as scum. You may only seek to help an SK win, if there is one -- mafia team kingmaker, possibly. EBWOP: making this last possible claim does not automatically make FC scum, it just will look very scummy coming so late. Don't preclude the possibility of FC actually being town. (Also, town wins anyway as long as there is no SK.) | ||
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On December 31 2012 08:30 cDgCorazon wrote: So if you feel that way, do you think that the 1-1 theory is true? And if you do think the 1-1 theory is true, who out of the other 5 not up for lynching today would you suspect the most of being scum? Is this directed at me? | ||
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On December 31 2012 08:30 cDgCorazon wrote: EBWOP: Above post was directed at Chrom. Okay, not for me. | ||
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----- ##Vote: FatChunk Okay, FatChunk, here's the deal. If you are VT and will claim so honestly, I might be able to save you from the lynch with pure logical deduction and zero case analysis -- if you are not lying. If you are lying, then you deserve to die anyway. If you are going to claim something else -- I already saw it a mile away as the last possible, logical scum play by kick/orange/fc scumteam. That claim, coming so last minute is going to look ridiculously scummy. It may extend your life, but it will not help you win as scum. Scum FC may only seek to help an SK win, if there is one -- mafia team kingmaker, possibly. Town FC playing like this? bad play. [edit @ all This claim does not automatically make FC scum, it just will look very scummy coming so late. Don't preclude the possibility of FC actually being town. (Anyway, town very likely wins anyway as long as there is no SK.) ] I am playing safe and looking for the win if possible, trying to preserve a little insurance against the small remaining possibility of SK in the game, even though general consensus is there is likely to be none. And if there is no SK in the game, kick/orange/fc is already guaranteed to lose. FATCHUNK: What is the last card in your hand? Out with it. | ||
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On December 31 2012 08:33 FatChunk wrote: @cake Well I've been claiming town all along. so yes, I am VT. Okay, assuming that roleblocked claims are true: TOWN RB - If you detect any roleblock claims to be false, you need to step up and lynch the liar. - if the Town RB has a name starting with C -- you need to step forward and save FatChunk now. - if the Town RB does not have a name starting with C... sorry, fatchunk, you lied. Explanation coming soon. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + N1: 22 09:08 cake 22 13:36 omni 23 08:45 shz N2: 26 09:16 cake 26 18:51 orange N3: 29 15:39 syl 30 04:32 fatchunk General consensus in this game is to lynch liars -- there is no place for lying townies in a newbie game. Townies have no incentive to lie about roleblocked claims. Scum cannot afford to lie about roleblocked claims -- they could be called out for it by town RBs. ----- (0) mocsta is a jailer, omni is VT (1) N2 -> either cake and orange are both RBs, or both are not RBs. (2) N3 -> either syl and fatchunk are both RBs, or both are not RBs. (3) (0)+(1)+N1 -> both cake and shz are not RBs (4) (1)+(3) -> orange is not RB. (5) (3+4) = {cake, orange, shz} are not RBs. (6) (5)+(2) -> the only possible townRB + scumRB pairs are (syl & fatchunk) and (chrom & corazon) (H1) FatChunk claims VT to avoid being lynched (H1)+(6) only a town RB claim from chrom and corazon can save FatChunk now. ------ (more in a bit) | ||
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The sole danger is that they are SK fakeclaiming Town RB, to keep mafia alive a while longer, and playing for SK win. I will use variables C1 and C2 here since it could be either way round: Between Chrom and Corazon, let's say C1 claims Town RB, but C2 smells a rat. C2 as a townie must counterclaim honestly. I am betting against Chrom+Corazon being 1 mafia 1 SK, so this should be safe. | ||
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On December 31 2012 08:50 Chromatically wrote: I don't follow your logic, cakepie. Why would an RB claim save FC? Because under the reasonable assumption that roleblocked claims are all truth, then for FC to be VT, then the two roleblockers must be chrom+corazon. If roleblocked claims contain faked, then all bets are off. But I don't think that is the case. | ||
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On December 31 2012 08:53 Chromatically wrote: Why does this say anything about FC being Goon? VT, not Goon. | ||
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On December 31 2012 08:55 cDgCorazon wrote: ##Vote: FatChunk On December 31 2012 08:56 Chromatically wrote: Lies Corazon, I am town RB, you are scum with FC. Full claim with crumbs in a sec. | ||
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